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05-07-2006, 01:07 PM
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Collector
Join Date: May 2001
Location: STOCKPORT.ENGLAND
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Bad Trader Warning Roy Gorris Usa
This is a warning to all model collectors ,
beware the named trader roy gorris ( roy.g usa ) an aim.com customer ! also uses the name modelairplaneguy on his paypal address. bought 3 display models from him and whilst under offer i got a reply the next day but once the money had gone into his paypal account . nothing , no models no replies and his paypal account emptied. beware of this trader , i have also heard of other reports where he has bought things from ebay and reported to paypal he never recieved them to get his money back only to advertise that model himself on ebay a few weeks later a real professional con man who knows how to cheat the system  .Last edited by kevingeeuk; 05-07-2006 at 01:21 PM. |
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05-08-2006, 04:31 AM
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Insane Collector
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Monza - Italy
Age: 36
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05-18-2006, 07:37 AM
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Collector
Join Date: May 2001
Location: STOCKPORT.ENGLAND
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still no replies to any of my emails which just confirms he is a cheat
and the models he said he posted never turned up ???? |
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05-28-2006, 11:22 PM
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Senior Collector
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Taipei, Taiwan
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You can ask your Visa/Master Card company to charge back the whole payment.
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Happy Collecting!! my collection:  http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...iew.php?id=201 |
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05-29-2006, 01:04 AM
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Senior Collector
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Napier , New Zealand
Age: 41
Posts: 442
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Can you please tell me - what is his Ebay ID name ?
This would be very valuable information. Thank you, Lax  |
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05-31-2006, 06:16 AM
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Collector
Join Date: May 2001
Location: STOCKPORT.ENGLAND
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05-31-2006, 06:40 AM
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Collector
Join Date: May 2001
Location: STOCKPORT.ENGLAND
Age: 46
Posts: 148
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HIS EBAY NAME WAS
ORIONAIR but i think he has more than one account. |
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05-31-2006, 08:28 AM
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Collector
Join Date: May 2001
Location: STOCKPORT.ENGLAND
Age: 46
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these 2 are still alive but ebay will not give me his user name gorrisroy@aim.com gorrisroy@aol.com he also uses modelairplaneguy@earthlink.net for the paypal but it is not bringing up any ebay users name on this one i guess its just used for dumping the con-money into then straight out |
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05-31-2006, 09:39 AM
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It's Time To Fly
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Hoffman Est.
Age: 17
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thanks for the info hope you get your models soon!
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united, contenental airlines all the way. Boeing 777 Best aircraft in the world. 787 Aircraft of the future. Never Forget 9/11, 2001 
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05-31-2006, 09:50 PM
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Junior Collector
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 5
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since this thread is about bad traders; let me add one for my own. I did a transaction on Wings900 with a character named Jalpal. He stated that the reason that he could not mail me my planes was due to a knee injury. Yet he had no problem cashing my money order (cashed on April 4th- I know since I had it traced) or hand delivering an order to another buyer several weeks later. It has been over 4 monthes since the transaction was initiated
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05-31-2006, 10:53 PM
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Senior PacMin Collector
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Lots of places
Posts: 30
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SCAMMER! Has burned me several times and tried to burn my friends!
Many of you know me on eBay as bluesky_models (formerly pacmin_shop).
STAY AWAY FROM THIS GUY. He has sent me checks and put a stop payment on them, has claimed to have models that he doesn't have - only to not reply once the payment is sent to him, takes unannounced trips "overseas" and "will get back to you in 3 months"... such crap! He has tried to scam me for well over $3000 in total, and he has tried to obtain many of my very rare PacMin models. He is a complete scam artist, and I have saved him from dealing with a couple of my close friends and model collectors, and I hope everyone reading this takes this warning seriously. My history with him goes back 5 or more years. He is a complete scam artist, and it took me several dealings to figure that out. I've even been on the phone with this loser's wife and bank! Even Paypal couldn't get the money back - despite me winning the dispute. BEWARE, thanks very much for this post. I have seen him under these names and email addresses (though I'm sure there are hundreds more): Orionair (lately on eBay) ModelAirplaneGuy (this is his most common) roy@aviation-desktopmodels.com (his "company") modelairplaneguy@hotmail.com orionair@gmail.com (most recent contact with me) Dave |
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06-28-2006, 09:39 AM
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Collector
Join Date: May 2001
Location: STOCKPORT.ENGLAND
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i think someone in the usa should get the police involved as he must be scamming on loads of other things as well as model planes ?
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06-28-2006, 12:27 PM
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Senior PacMin Collector
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Lots of places
Posts: 30
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Roy Gorris' Information
The last information I have on this guy is his address and phone number. I have spoken to his wife in the past about his actions - mostly empty promises come back from him. Not sure if she is in on it all, or what. Roy claims he is in the Army and is deployed overseas all the time. Now he claims he is out of town until September 14, 2006 in an auto-reply message I got from one of his email addresses. In the hopes that it helps you get ahold of him, here is his information:
Personal Information Removed as the dispute is settled I thought this would help. Here is all the email addresses I have on this scam artist: roygorris1969@yahoo.com Executive Aviation Display Models gorrisroy@aim.com gorrisroy@aol.com roy@aviation-desktopmodels.com modelairplaneguy@earthlink.net modelairplaneguy@hotmail.com  This guy is horrible, please stay away from him! Recently, he tried to sell a bunch of fake items on eBay as mentioned by others and he uses a lot of the big sites for selling models to try and multiply his scams. That's all I know - except for the fact that he has taken a LOT of money from a lot of people, including me. I have had a lot of people contact me - including 2 of my best collecting pals, asking me if his offers are good because they sound like great models at a great price. I have saved 2 people from sending him money, and that makes me happy. He seems to have a continually growing list of fake models for sale that he periodically sends out to collectors. Grrrrrrr! If you have had bad dealings with him, I suggest calling his home number above or writing to his address. Call, call, call is all I can say. I had to call his bank twice and his wife on one bad deal to even get a response out of them. Last edited by n1786b; 03-20-2008 at 05:59 AM. |
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06-28-2006, 09:41 PM
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Junior Collector
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Orange County, Ca
Posts: 46
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08-02-2006, 05:58 AM
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PacMin Collector
Join Date: Aug 2002
Age: 39
Posts: 27
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thanks for heads up
Last edited by JGJ2010; 08-02-2006 at 06:23 AM. |
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08-03-2006, 01:57 PM
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Senior Collector
Join Date: May 2000
Location: INDY
Posts: 217
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If he is in the military, contact his base / unit commander.
Believe me, they will deal harshly with this guy...at least they used to when I was in for stuff like this...they will make sure you get your money, even if they have to garnish his wages. |
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08-03-2006, 05:48 PM
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Senior PacMin Collector
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Lots of places
Posts: 30
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Contacting the Base
Thanks for the suggestion, I am actually working on that right now. He is supposedly stationed in Ft. Riley, KS and finding the CO of the base should not be difficult.
I will contact the base and will hopefully be able to at least have the process of dealing with all this fraudulent business started. Hopefully I can help get people their money back (including myself) and any models back that have been sent to him. He will pay, that is for sure. Dave |
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08-08-2006, 06:34 AM
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Collector
Join Date: May 2001
Location: STOCKPORT.ENGLAND
Age: 46
Posts: 148
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keep me informed
hi there,
if you get and base and commander details let me know i will also drop him a letter telling of my £240 scam he pulled on me earlier this year for 3 pacmins that never turned up ? cheers kevin.g.uk@btinternet.com |
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08-08-2006, 06:38 AM
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Collector
Join Date: May 2001
Location: STOCKPORT.ENGLAND
Age: 46
Posts: 148
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more !
i did write to the home address above to his wife but as you can imagine no reply no money credited back to my paypal ,
but i will try the base commander and i think if we all write who he has scammed it will be big trouble for him if nothing else cheers kev in the uk |
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08-21-2006, 08:01 AM
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Collector
Join Date: May 2001
Location: STOCKPORT.ENGLAND
Age: 46
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anyone got any news of this guys base or officer in command yet ?
cheers kev |
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09-14-2006, 01:12 PM
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Senior PacMin Collector
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Lots of places
Posts: 30
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Update
No word yet from the base, though I do have an inquiry started.
So you know, I got a reply last night from him from his "orionair@gmail.com" email address. He is there, and so I would suggest writing him again on that address. No info on the models yet, but I just wanted to see if I could get a reply out of him, and I did from my "anonymous" email address. So he is there, and probably ignoring everyone who he has dealt with, but GLADLY accepting inquiries from new people that he can scam. Let me know if you get a reply as well. I will update with any info I find out from this loser. |
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09-21-2006, 07:26 PM
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Senior PacMin Collector
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Lots of places
Posts: 30
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Kev please write me
Kev,
I have some important information, could you please PM me - I may be progressing specifically towards giving you help on this. David |
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09-30-2006, 11:13 AM
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Senior PacMin Collector
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Lots of places
Posts: 30
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Fixing the Problem
Kev,
Please email Roy at orionair@gmail.com. He is back and wants to make this right. I got in contact with him on this email address, told him what is going on and he would like your email address so he can sort out what happened. That's all I know for now. Hope this helps. Dave |
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09-30-2006, 12:33 PM
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SKYDREAMER
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Manchester, NH
Age: 41
Posts: 403
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So sorry to hear! This guy is simply a thief...!
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09-30-2006, 06:48 PM
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Master Collector
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Montreal
Posts: 499
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lets all buy and bid 1000$ on ebay
AND THEN DON'T PAY! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH |
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10-01-2006, 11:40 AM
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Collector
Join Date: May 2001
Location: STOCKPORT.ENGLAND
Age: 46
Posts: 148
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cheers dave ,
i have emailed the details to him at the given address above , i will let you all know if he honours this promiss and returns my money or sends any models as we agreed. thanks kev |
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10-04-2006, 01:45 AM
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Senior PacMin Collector
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Lots of places
Posts: 30
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Refund Received
FYI - I received a payment today from him to settle the issue I had with him. We came to an agreement over email and he sent the money to me to cover the amount he owed.
I hope everyone who has had issues gets the same result. Perhaps he is trying to make this right. Thank you Roy for finally making it right with me. Please do so with all the people who feel like I did. |
