Jets of LA

Probably a crapshoot but...does anybody have a set of Aeroclassics Braniff Jellybeans they would like to sell? PM me if you do!!!

IKONOS

I don't have any to sell, but it may be helpful to someone that does if they knew which ones you are looking for... Electra's, 111s, 707-100s, 707-300s or the newly released 727s?

Of course, you could be looking for them all... in that case I wish you luck!

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Jets of LA

Sorry I forgot to specify that I am looking for the 727s. I was trying to type my post as fast as possible! And I probably need l,otsa luck to find any of the models you mentioned!

SANNY-LAX

I preordered from EZTOYZ and still waiting, don't know when I will receive them, anyone receive your order from EZTOYZ yet?
Wish you luck to find these 727's

Jets of LA

Good luck on receiving yours. I'm an authorized retailer of Aeroclassics using ADI as my supplier. I, like all other AC retailers, were sent our email telling us to place our orders for the new releases. Not five minutes after the email was sent I sent in my order. I received a confirmation that my order was received. Not one mention that I would not receive ANY of the models. I presold my set in about ten minutes after it was listed. I sent another email to them trying to add one more set to my new release order. I received an email back saying that I would not be able to order one more set. Okay no problems there...I understand the quantities are limited and I did not presell any other sets...but I made sure that I received order confirmation before I sold the first set. But STILL no mention that I would not receive the original set I ordered! I even stated in the second email that I had already presold my set and nothing was said to me to make me believe that there was a problem. I received my new release order early last week and...NO JELLYBEANS! The only mention was on my payment invoice that stated ..."Due to excessive demand you were not allocated any of the Aeroclassics Braniff B727 6 Pack." Very disappointing to say the least. I've sent two emails to ADI with no response regarding this issue. What retailer actually received ANY of this set? Retailers who spend thousands of $ per year with ADI didn't receive a single set...myself included. Now I've got a pissed off customer and I have no support in dealing with this. Other than me venting my frustration and helping others understand this situation the point of this tirade is this...I truly hope you receive your set...they are awesome! However if you haven't received them yet it doesn't look good. Your retailer is probably doing what I am currently doing...Trying to find a set to fill our orders so that we don't disappoint the customers that are loyal to us! Best of luck to all!

N. Eberhard

These were oversold by at least 500%. Just as I predicted after the info about this release was made public and BEFORE any retailers got the official notification. Somebody whose name I won't mention is most likely quite pleased about this but a LOT of collectors are rather pissed off not too mention the amount of money that the distributor and retailers lost out on.

Planecrazy

I know that I will NEVER again try for a set from Aeroclassics again! This is the third time I have been burned on buying them. Mr. Klein should know by now the demand for these sets but does not produce for the market. Aeroclassics states it has authorized dealers but does nothing about the under the table dealing on them by his dealers. I am now trying to recover the money I paid for a set from one of his dealers who never delivered on the set he promised. If I were to write a book on how to kill your business, this would be a chapter onto itself!

psalover

As a retailer, I learned long ago to not count your chics before they are hatched. I was burned by the long delayed Witchta Witch from Dragon. from that point, I never preordered anything that was rare ever again.

everybody knew that these planes were going to be a huge hit. Andrew did excactly what he wanted to do. Aeroclassics get better with time. Andrew wants his planes to increase in value, and I don't blame him. You'll see that some people, maybe some retailer will release these after a while, and they will bring big money. I put the only set I recieved on E-bay, and it fetched $202.00 If I would have waited it probably would have fetched a lot more.Im not greedy though. I wanted to make a profit, but not knock someones head off. You'll see, this planes will bring well into the $500.00 to $700.00 range in a year, if not more, and someone will buy them. and these Aeroclassics will be TRUE collectors items. Just like AK wants, and a lot of collectors want, an investment.

psalover

I know collectors who got there set are going to be very happy.An Aeroclassics set that will bring huge money, an investment. DO you have any planes that you bought at retail, and now is worth a lot more then you paid for it? This hobby to a lot of people is an investment. Some people don't ever take the planes out of the box. We soak a lot of money into our collection, and if we can hold the value, or make money on it if we had to sell it, that is what a lot want, including you I'm sure.

for the future, you need to find a retailer that you can trust to get you what you need. You need to have a relationship with that person.I get e-mails from guys on here all the time. everytime a release they want comes up, they e-mail me asking if I can get one for them. I try, and I let them know with Aeroclassics, they are tough to get, and cuts on orders happen all the time.Also, it always is first come first serve,and I am open, and upfront with all my customers.You need to build a friendship with your retailer.

Good luck in the future, and happy modeling.

psalover

My last post would apply to you as well. Don't shoot yourself in the foot, because your upset about these releases. Aeroclassics are worth the price, and AK is onlylooking out for the collector, by trying to make his planes worth more as time goes on. A true colloectors item. You should be thanking him instead of bashing him. I like the fact that most of my aeroclassics in my collection are worth what I paid for them, or sometimes even better WORTH MORE!!!

Find a retailer, and build a relationship with him.That helps get hard to find, or get planes. Just a little advise you can use it, or not. Its up to you.

Dave

Planecrazy

There is a difference between releasing a high demand item and insuring it gets to your authorized dealers rather than being held back at the distributor level to be sold at price scalping amounts. I have talked with four dealers with whom I regularly deal with who did not receive sets promised in writing by their distributors. Since this has happened on prior releases it behooves Mr. Klein to protect his reputation and ensure they get to his dealers, or is it his belief that there are exceptions to ethical business practices.

SANNY-LAX

That means many of those had preorders from their favorite retailers will not get their order ???????? AC website has 32 retailers listed that means each retailer get only 6 sets out of 220 sets made, well 6 sets per retailer is not many ya.

waiping

As the DAC administrator had said before on another thread - this is a toy for God sake! I'll pay USD210 for 3 barrels of crude oil at USD70 and see how much would that worth in a year's time. This investment thing is really pricing out genuine collectors who do not have that much cash to burn.

Let's do something about it. Let's name the companies that you have placed an order only to not hear from them anymore. ADI is mentioned. Who else? Maybe the problem doesn't come from AC but the distributors.

As I have said before, I wish that one day someone would come along and release new versions of what's extremely expensive and rare items for us not-so-rich collectors just to catch up with the hobby that we like. Just dip the damn thing in a gel and wait for it to harden to get your mould.

psalover

Sorry to say, but the planes are not being held at the distributer level. They send out every plane that is ordered. When I said what I said, It was aimed at the retailer level.This is who I would suggest is holding back.

Another thing is a small retailer who orders 2 or 3 sets dont get them If Adam Jets orders 30 sets, then they are allicated a certain amount. It may (not sure) have to do with what amount your have purchased in the past. EZ toyz, and Adam Jets may get more sets, because of there size, compared to LAJets or myself for instance. Then you have to take into consideration what kinda business these people do.

I have had in the past several orders cut in half, because of sell out, and demand from other reatilers. Its something we have to deal with as retailers.

psalover

Sanny, I agree with you, but the bigger retailers always get more allication. I think it is a percentage of what you sell, or buy, or something like that.

As for 32 retailers, I can tell you that I am not on that list, I know KSO stopped selling Aeroclassics, because AK refused to add him to the retail list. This from KSO. You have a whole bunch of retailers selling Aeroclassics that are not listed.

psalover

I agree somewhat I cant stand the fact that the AA MD-80 goes for over $100.00. I want one bad, but if you look it it like this. I sold my set for $202.00 thats $33.66 a plane. Not to expensive after all. I am not looking to make millions on my personal planes when I sell them. If I ever decide to leave this hobby, I just want to at least break even. Look at the guys who collected Star Wars Action Figures. Never opened, they bring huge profits FOR TOYS. Its what people want. I am sure you would want the most for your planes if you decided to sell them, This is what we all want.

In all I do agree with you about Aeroclassics should have put out more, but every so often we come across a I got to have it. I think this set is it.

N. Eberhard

The U.S. distributor handles 40 retailers. Not all sets came to the U.S. Most retailers got between zero and 4 sets.

diecast1964

Look for a retailer who:
1/ only offers only the models he will get for sure
2/ has a real-time inventory
No hassle with unfulfilled promises. A set was available when visiting the website. After ordering and a prompt payment, the models are now on my desk. I had a much tougher time locating one out of the 27 Sabena DC-6s OO-SDD...

$500 for a set of B721s JellyBeans in a year? Keep dreaming. Money to spend for an investment? Nasdaq.com. Just buy these 1/400 toys for fun.

Jan

psalover

Well, I guess you neve cruise e-bay from time to time looking for rareties. I have seen single 747 go for over $250.00.And at one time I sold a fantasy Braniff Concorde in black for $150.00. When It comes to Braniff, and detailed 727's like Aeroclassics nothing is unrealistic I sold my 727 set for $202.00 The only set I got, and look at the Dragon Wings MD-82 on e-bay for $100.00. Some people have the money to spend. Well see what the future holds.

diecast1964

I remember just over $400 as the highest price so far for the Jelly Beans B707-set on ebay. 9 models. Was not that long ago.
I agree with you on individual models. I also have a few +$100 models in my collection. So these prices are not unrealistic. However, when you put a few of these beauties together in a set, total price often becomes prohibitive.
Time will tell indeed. In the meanwhile, just enjoy. Take care,

Jan

aklein707

Not true! KSO was not added to the list, because KSO was cut off due to unethical business practices!

As for the fairness of distribution, I would probably say (since I do not manage ADI) that those dealers who completely support the product, (ie order as many China Whatevers as they would order Braniffs) were those who got the bulk of the distribution. Fair is Fair!

If a dealer would have ordered just the Braniff sets, but nothing else offered, chances are that they would have received nothing!

I sometimes cringe when I see some dealers offering for pre-orders items I haven't even made yet, but selling on ebay something not in hand is something I don't understand, or agree with!

Let's say for example, a dealer ordered a set of something from ADI, and presold it on ebay. Along comes the box, and the models contained within are in little pieces. Model is sold-out by the time the package arrives to the dealer; now what?? Blame AeroClassics? Blame ADI? Blame the shipper? Negative Feedback? Blame yourself!

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psalover

Im not on the retailers list for Aeroclassics. I am a retailer, but was never listed, but its not a huge deal to me.As long as I get my new releases,I won't complain.