Hansa's for Herb

dylan · 06-29-2009, 02:28 PM

Herb, got my own personal tour of the two parked Hansa Jets at KTOL. They are former Grand Air/Cherry Air birds and one looks to be in BAAADDD shape. No idea on regs or serial #'s

dylan · 06-29-2009, 02:31 PM

Prestwick Pioneer · 06-29-2009, 04:30 PM

Bitching pics Dylan the Hansa is/was such a cool machine. Didn't Modern Air have one? Im sure it was in Prestwick on delivery, late 1960s early 70s. SHame there is little need to preserve them but it looks like one there is gettin a bit too far gone now.

Junkcollector · 06-29-2009, 06:45 PM

Dylan,
A million Thanks for getting those pics. They're amazing! It sucks to see the Grand Air such bad condition, but very glad you have it documented. You got yourself a print! Is Modern Air Okay? Will PM you.

Again, Thanks for taking the time for such an obscure aircraft. They are invaluable!

Prestwick,
Will post the Modern Air in a bit. I'm just leaving the office, so bear with me.

Awesome job Dylan! You Rock!

Herb-

Junkcollector · 06-29-2009, 10:48 PM

Okay Guys,
Here's my Modern Air Hansa from 2008. Enjoy!!

Be sure to check out my other Hansa on the front page here:
HFB 320 HANSA JET

Prestwick Pioneer · 06-30-2009, 12:53 PM

Thanks Herb a very nice bit of graphic design, there is an Ian Allan book which I have and the aircraft is sitting on stand 4 at Prestwick, I assume on delivery. Unless they used it as a crew ferry in Europe to support the Berlin operations. I can also remember the CV990s in PIK too

dylan · 06-30-2009, 05:30 PM

Herb...I would LOVE a print! Make sure you sign it!!

.

Sandy, good to see you posting more

A Tupolev · 07-13-2009, 09:31 PM

I just came across this. Neat pictures Dylan. Great print Herb. How'd this thread end up under military?

Prestwick Pioneer · 07-14-2009, 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Tupolev

I just came across this. Neat pictures Dylan. Great print Herb. How'd this thread end up under military?

Good question I think one of the Hansa's is ex Luftwaffe!!

Junkcollector · 07-14-2009, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prestwick Pioneer

Thanks Herb a very nice bit of graphic design, there is an Ian Allan book which I have and the aircraft is sitting on stand 4 at Prestwick, I assume on delivery. Unless they used it as a crew ferry in Europe to support the Berlin operations. I can also remember the CV990s in PIK too

You're very welcome Prestwick- There were few photos available. The delivery photo you mention sounds familiar. Think it was used as referece for the print.

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Tupolev

I just came across this. Neat pictures Dylan. Great print Herb. How'd this thread end up under military?

Guilty of being asleep at the wheel...My bad!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prestwick Pioneer

Good question I think one of the Hansa's is ex Luftwaffe!!

You're right. The LUfthwaffe scheme is one that my friend Eckhard has used for his site and book.
more here: HFB 320 HANSA JET

dylan · 07-20-2009, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Tupolev

How'd this thread end up under military?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Junkcollector

Guilty of being asleep at the wheel...My bad!

Not Herb's bad, MY bad. Herb had posted some other stuff here. And since this section sees about as much action as a 41 year old World of Warcraft player on a saturday night in his mom's basement, I thought this was a good spot for it as it won't get buried too quickly with all the riff-raff thats been going on in the 1:1 and "what if" sections.

It's okay when I do it!

A Tupolev · 07-21-2009, 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dylan

And since this section sees about as much action as a 41 year old World of Warcraft player on a saturday night in his mom's basement, I thought this was a good spot for it as it won't get buried too quickly with all the riff-raff thats been going on in the 1:1 and "what if" sections.

Thats not a reference to Rick is it?

Junkcollector · 07-21-2009, 01:53 AM

My good....Military! This sketch is used for the HFB 320 HANSA JET front page and my friend, Eckhard Giese definitive new book on the subject. Now can someone please validate my parking?

Junkcollector · 08-03-2009, 10:58 PM

Dylan,

Thanks again for posting these rare images of an all but forgotten aircraft! With all the great detail close-ups, my sketches can be updated. Look for the Grand Air/Cherry Bird to come soon. I promised the wife of the owner quite some time ago, a print. Now it can be completed!

Best,
Herb

mkeperson · 08-24-2009, 09:29 PM

Just came across this thread. Great pics. A historic aircraft from the dawn of corporate jets. All known airframes in the U.S. are grounded because of life limit of 15,000 hrs/15,000 cycles, whichever occurred first.

The airplane guy · 12-23-2009, 01:33 PM

Hey guys,

I have just seen the photos for the first time and maybe some of you are interested in more informations on the shown airplanes.

The blue/white one is Hansajet No S21 first flight in May 1969. First operator was the German Air Force who used this bird as a VIP Aircraft. In 1987 it was sold to MBB at the end of 1989 was sold to Jet Frighters Int. Inc. in 1996 to Kalitta Flying Services, then to Grand Aire and it was written of in 2000.

The other one is No. S33. First flight in 1971. Sold to Brazil in 1973 and in 1994 to Grand Aire.

Merry Christmas !

06-29-2009, 02:28 PM	#1
dylan Village Drunkard Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert... Age: 32 Posts: 2,848	Hansa's for Herb Herb, got my own personal tour of the two parked Hansa Jets at KTOL. They are former Grand Air/Cherry Air birds and one looks to be in BAAADDD shape. No idea on regs or serial #'s __________________ Last edited by dylan; 06-29-2009 at 02:32 PM.

06-29-2009, 02:31 PM	#2
dylan Village Drunkard Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert... Age: 32 Posts: 2,848	Re: Hansa's for Herb __________________

06-29-2009, 04:30 PM	#3
Prestwick Pioneer Prestwick Pioneer Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: BIRMINGHAM ENGLAND Posts: 1,020	Re: Hansa's for Herb Bitching pics Dylan the Hansa is/was such a cool machine. Didn't Modern Air have one? Im sure it was in Prestwick on delivery, late 1960s early 70s. SHame there is little need to preserve them but it looks like one there is gettin a bit too far gone now. __________________ The Prestwick Pioneer

06-29-2009, 06:45 PM	#4
Junkcollector Over 10 years old. Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 1,835	Re: Hansa's for Herb Dylan, A million Thanks for getting those pics. They're amazing! It sucks to see the Grand Air such bad condition, but very glad you have it documented. You got yourself a print! Is Modern Air Okay? Will PM you. Again, Thanks for taking the time for such an obscure aircraft. They are invaluable! Prestwick, Will post the Modern Air in a bit. I'm just leaving the office, so bear with me. Awesome job Dylan! You Rock! Herb- __________________ Herb- • My Lockheed SST Blog: http://lockheedsst.blogspot.com/ • My Boeing 733 SST Blog: http://boeing733sst.blogspot.com/ • My Airliner Prints http://airlinerimages.blogspot.com/

06-29-2009, 10:48 PM	#5
Junkcollector Over 10 years old. Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 1,835	Re: Hansa's for Herb Okay Guys, Here's my Modern Air Hansa from 2008. Enjoy!! Be sure to check out my other Hansa on the front page here: HFB 320 HANSA JET __________________ Herb- • My Lockheed SST Blog: http://lockheedsst.blogspot.com/ • My Boeing 733 SST Blog: http://boeing733sst.blogspot.com/ • My Airliner Prints http://airlinerimages.blogspot.com/ Last edited by Junkcollector; 10-20-2009 at 01:33 PM.

06-30-2009, 12:53 PM	#6
Prestwick Pioneer Prestwick Pioneer Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: BIRMINGHAM ENGLAND Posts: 1,020	Re: Hansa's for Herb Thanks Herb a very nice bit of graphic design, there is an Ian Allan book which I have and the aircraft is sitting on stand 4 at Prestwick, I assume on delivery. Unless they used it as a crew ferry in Europe to support the Berlin operations. I can also remember the CV990s in PIK too __________________ The Prestwick Pioneer

06-30-2009, 05:30 PM	#7
dylan Village Drunkard Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert... Age: 32 Posts: 2,848	Re: Hansa's for Herb Herb...I would LOVE a print! Make sure you sign it!! . Sandy, good to see you posting more __________________

07-13-2009, 09:31 PM	#8
A Tupolev I'll be at the nudie bar. Join Date: May 2005 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 3,593	Re: Hansa's for Herb I just came across this. Neat pictures Dylan. Great print Herb. How'd this thread end up under military? __________________ Kaze O! Hikari O! Ninpô Shishi-Hengen! My collection: http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...tion-3750.html

07-21-2009, 01:53 AM	#13
Junkcollector Over 10 years old. Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 1,835	Re: Hansa's for Herb My good....Military! This sketch is used for the HFB 320 HANSA JET front page and my friend, Eckhard Giese definitive new book on the subject. Now can someone please validate my parking? __________________ Herb- • My Lockheed SST Blog: http://lockheedsst.blogspot.com/ • My Boeing 733 SST Blog: http://boeing733sst.blogspot.com/ • My Airliner Prints http://airlinerimages.blogspot.com/ Last edited by Junkcollector; 07-21-2009 at 01:21 PM.

08-03-2009, 10:58 PM	#14
Junkcollector Over 10 years old. Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 1,835	Re: Hansa's for Herb Dylan, Thanks again for posting these rare images of an all but forgotten aircraft! With all the great detail close-ups, my sketches can be updated. Look for the Grand Air/Cherry Bird to come soon. I promised the wife of the owner quite some time ago, a print. Now it can be completed! Best, Herb __________________ Herb- • My Lockheed SST Blog: http://lockheedsst.blogspot.com/ • My Boeing 733 SST Blog: http://boeing733sst.blogspot.com/ • My Airliner Prints http://airlinerimages.blogspot.com/ Last edited by Junkcollector; 08-03-2009 at 11:01 PM.

08-24-2009, 09:29 PM	#15
mkeperson Collector Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 97	Re: Hansa's for Herb Just came across this thread. Great pics. A historic aircraft from the dawn of corporate jets. All known airframes in the U.S. are grounded because of life limit of 15,000 hrs/15,000 cycles, whichever occurred first.

12-23-2009, 01:33 PM	#16
The airplane guy Gone to WallaWalla Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Solingen, Germany Age: 30 Posts: 360	Re: Hansa's for Herb Hey guys, I have just seen the photos for the first time and maybe some of you are interested in more informations on the shown airplanes. The blue/white one is Hansajet No S21 first flight in May 1969. First operator was the German Air Force who used this bird as a VIP Aircraft. In 1987 it was sold to MBB at the end of 1989 was sold to Jet Frighters Int. Inc. in 1996 to Kalitta Flying Services, then to Grand Aire and it was written of in 2000. The other one is No. S33. First flight in 1971. Sold to Brazil in 1973 and in 1994 to Grand Aire. Merry Christmas ! __________________ My collection : www.flughafen-solingen.de.tl

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