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Old 10-25-2016, 11:58 PM   #1
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This one just landed in my collection from the FlyingMule:

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Grumman F-14A Tomcat
USN VF-84 Jolly Roger
AJ200, USS Nimitz, 1978
Landing Configuration
10 Year Anniversary
(Item: CW-001619). 1500 Pieces Worldwide

Looks like CW is coming back with some fight in them in light of the recent competition from HM and Calibre Wings. I would save the quality has improved, the gaps are very minimal, the new magnetic landing gear and extra options like arrest hook and nozzles is a nice addition. This is the 10 year anniversary of their first ever model by Century Wings. There's also more weathering done on this model and the wings are fixed with the leading and trailing edge flaps deployed. Although it is in "landing configuration," I would say it's real position is right when it landed on the deck: I display it as it just touched down with the engines coming to idle and the arrest hook down.

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Nice new box art


You can see some of the new additions such as the arrest hook and the nozzles here







The interchangeable nozzles (although I had to use some white glue to make it stay in place)






The Display stand is a little awkward since the inserts will not go into the nozzle if it's the idle position.
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Overall looks really nice but WHY THE HELL IS THE SKULL AND BONES NOT STRAIGHT??? Why is it so skewed? Is it because CW chose wrong size and had to somehow fit it in?
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Great pics SKF.. Yours looks great.. Mine looks horrendous.. First off, when I got it out of the packaging the left vertical stab fell off.. The paint is horrid, there's overspray everywhere.. There is a massive gap behind the canopy when it's closed. The skulls are more crooked than Hillary Clinton and there is scratch marks on it.. I hope this is just one bad egg but it is terrible. I emailed CW and haven't heard anything back.. that was 2 days ago. I even sent them some high res photos.. not a very happy camper over here.. especially for how excited I was to get this release. Anybody had any luck getting in contact with CW?
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P.s. Which Blackbird is in the back of your signature? The one with the A$$ end covered by the others..
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Great pics SKF.. Yours looks great.. Mine looks horrendous.. First off, when I got it out of the packaging the left vertical stab fell off.. The paint is horrid, there's overspray everywhere.. There is a massive gap behind the canopy when it's closed. The skulls are more crooked than Hillary Clinton and there is scratch marks on it.. I hope this is just one bad egg but it is terrible. I emailed CW and haven't heard anything back.. that was 2 days ago. I even sent them some high res photos.. not a very happy camper over here.. especially for how excited I was to get this release. Anybody had any luck getting in contact with CW?
Hope you asked your retailer for a replacement
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Not good to hear, hope we're not seeing the same QC issues as we did with the CW last release. I do have one on order and while the retailer will replace a faulty model, it still can be a bit of a hassle.
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I emailed CW and haven't heard anything back.. that was 2 days ago. I even sent them some high res photos.. not a very happy camper over here.. especially for how excited I was to get this release. Anybody had any luck getting in contact with CW?
I go along with Andrew's comment to contact your retailer. It will also likely to be CW's response should they reply to you.
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Hope you asked your retailer for a replacement
Why would I do that? It's not the retailers fault.. You think I should? I don't think he should have to pay for CW's mistake.. I don't know.. maybe he gets reimbursed from CW.. I'll shoot him an email.
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Why would I do that? It's not the retailers fault.. You think I should? I don't think he should have to pay for CW's mistake.. I don't know.. maybe he gets reimbursed from CW.. I'll shoot him an email.
I don't know about US law but in the UK, consumer law states a contract of sale is between the retailer and the buyer. Hence should the buyer receive a defective item, the retailer is legally obliged to replace it or offer a refund.
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I don't know about US law but in the UK, consumer law states a contract of sale is between the retailer and the buyer. Hence should the buyer receive a defective item, the retailer is legally obliged to replace it or offer a refund.
Ok cool, thanks for the info. I went ahead and emailed the retailer and forwarded him a copy of the email I sent to CW with pictures to back up my claim. I'll try and post some pics on here real quick so you can see what I'm talking about. Thanks
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so this is how it showed up



huge canopy gap with scratch behind it



Crappy paint job.. Looks weathered but it's not. Also, not sure if you can see in the pic but there is a ton of overspray just prior to the cans and above the horiz. stab. Plus crooked skull



paint missing where the fuselage comes together..



same on the other side



This crap



I could keep going but you get the drift.. Just dissatisfied with this release.
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That's disappointing. I wasn't sure whether to get this or go for the HM JR one and I ended up deciding to go for the HM; having seen this thread, I'm glad I did!

Like Eagle Flyer I'd definitely send it back to the retailer and ask for a refund, but I'm also in the UK and I don't know if that's the best course of action that side of the pond. I certainly wouldn't accept it.
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Wow, just wow - I can't believe this is a CW bird...the englarged and skew skull is a disaster...and those detailed shots from Mike just go to show the rest of it up. I had this on order with FT but its defo getting canned.
I got the HM release as well, which I'm happy enough with, I'd rather have one of CWs earlier kneeling versions than this. Considering al the alterations that went on with the Aardvarks release, especially the out of line tail markings, you'd think that they'd have got their flagship release spot on...what a middle finger to so many loyal collectors.
The box art even shows how the tail is supposed to look like
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I've canned this order and have placed a second Calibre Wings (Ghostriders) model now on pre-order instead...way to go Century Wings!
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This is just heart breaking if you ask me, so many flaws on this CW bird, now all my money is on the Calibre Wings JR... and what's up with the angled skull & bones logo on one side, it's like buying some nice Nike sneakers with the Swoosh logo being upside down...

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I've canned this order and have placed a second Calibre Wings (Ghostriders) model now on pre-order instead...way to go Century Wings!
probably do same Andy. looks like skull + bones is only crooked on the right hand side. also seen reports gears are wobbly too on MH3, because of weak magnets. if this was HM it would trashed to pieces on loads of threads! got the 2nd HM JR + CALIBRE WINGS JR too on order.
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I just checked the pictures of the old releases and the new HM release and all seem to have a awkward angled skull and cross bones on the right stabilator. It's more noticeable on this release though. Even on pictures of the real thing it's visible that the skull leans slightly to the right.

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Looks like the letter on the rudder is too close to the edge while the letter on the vertical stabilizer is much too far from the edge. But still, that angled skull and crossbone on the starboard side still had space to hug the "A"
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That's disappointing. I wasn't sure whether to get this or go for the HM JR one and I ended up deciding to go for the HM; having seen this thread, I'm glad I did!

Like Eagle Flyer I'd definitely send it back to the retailer and ask for a refund, but I'm also in the UK and I don't know if that's the best course of action that side of the pond. I certainly wouldn't accept it.
point is will they have any stock left to replace it?? and will that one have same issues?
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point is will they have any stock left to replace it?? and will that one have same issues?
To be honest if I found that many issues on any one model I wouldn't be willing to take a chance on a replacement - I'd either ask for something else or for a refund.

Edit to add: and if it wasn't for the great reputation that CW have clearly built up here on these forums in the past, it would probably put me off buying anything by that manufacturer again.

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OUCH! What a screw up. It's not like this is the first time for the skull and cross bones sceme to be done. VF-84 AJ201 No. 590984
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I just checked the pictures of the old releases and the new HM release and all seem to have a awkward angled skull and cross bones on the right stabilator. It's more noticeable on this release though. Even on pictures of the real thing it's visible that the skull leans slightly to the right.
Wow, I never noticed it until you pointed this out. I don't think anyone picked up on it before. Perhaps this one is just a few degrees more than others thats making stand out more.
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well here is a couple of pics of 1st HM. slight kink on right side too. so it must be correct. but as said nobody noticed on previous releases!!



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Hmm... my head's spinning looking at all those skulls and crossbones

Roll back 10 years to the very first CW JR F-14


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It's a nice box at least, so it has that going for it..
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Just got this plane in from TFM and I'm guessing my copy is on a peace keeping mission as it didn't even come with any weapons.....

I haven't even looked the plane over yet so no telling what else is still in store....

I mean 6 months from announcement, pre-ordering to having the model in-hand like that and the way other collectors are receiving them from CW is definitely disappointing.

And this coming from someone who damn near has em all.
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Just got this plane in from TFM and I'm guessing my copy is on a peace keeping mission as it didn't even come with any weapons.....

I haven't even looked the plane over yet so no telling what else is still in store....

I mean 6 months from announcement, pre-ordering to having the model in-hand like that and the way other collectors are receiving them from CW is definitely disappointing.

And this coming from someone who damn near has em all.
Damn man.. they really screwed the pooch on that one.. I thought mine was bad but leaving out the entire weapon set?! Seriously CW wtf?
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Reeeeeealy CW?

Well....I took the liberty of straightening out the Jolly Rogers in Photoshop...it's not like I'm buying THIS particular JR

My 60th Anniversary HM JR should be here soon....

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When they said first model reborn, I didn't think they were literally using defectives set aside from the last 10 years
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Now I get it CW! For a moment you had some of us fooled. Now I know the method to your madness..........the Skull and Crossbones of Jolly Rogers straightens out only when the plane is on approach for landing or taking off. Ahhh I get it now,,,,,,,,

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Now I get it CW! For a moment you had some of us fooled. Now I know the method to your madness..........the Skull and Crossbones of Jolly Rogers straightens out only when the plane is on approach for landing or taking off. Ahhh I get it now,,,,,,,,

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That be the new holographic tails that autocorrect the tail art for optimum viewing during take off and landing
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Just got this plane in from TFM and I'm guessing my copy is on a peace keeping mission as it didn't even come with any weapons.....

I haven't even looked the plane over yet so no telling what else is still in store....

I mean 6 months from announcement, pre-ordering to having the model in-hand like that and the way other collectors are receiving them from CW is definitely disappointing.

And this coming from someone who damn near has em all.
Certainly not good to hear and hope nothing else further is wrong.
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"That be the new holographic tails that autocorrect the tail art for optimum viewing during take off and landing"

UF it's even worse than that......just take a look....it's way out of hand.

The autocorrect is BROKE!!

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...... my first CW release I will get and it's seems to be a desaster....

Love the turning bones....
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"That be the new holographic tails that autocorrect the tail art for optimum viewing during take off and landing"

UF it's even worse than that......just take a look....it's way out of hand.

The autocorrect is BROKE!!

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My 60th Anniversary HM JR should be here soon....

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well they have finally landed in U.K!! NORTON/UKBULKSALES have them listed in stock on their site and ebay as of yesterday. so mine should be here too from FLYING TIGERS!

good photoshopping btw on the spinning skull + bones.
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TFM replied back to my support email and will make things right by sending me the missing sleeve of munitions, so I'm relieved about that.

Upon hearing that I decided to finally take the plane out of the clam shell to look it over and all seems right with it. Just a slight gap I behind where the canopy meets the metal, but since it's black there hardly noticeable so I can live with that. I like the magnet feature for when the plane is displayed in flight, but not a fan when it sit wheels down. Maybe stronger magnets needed there as it seems a bit flimsy. Definitely not as tight fitting as previous landing wheel pieces. Paint job is nice like the earlier CW JRs. The interchangeable exhaust nozzles are nice touch, but loose fitting for sure. I didn't try putting it on the CW stand for fear of it falling off so unsure how I'm gonna play that since I would like to have it displayed in flight.

Overall I think it is as nice as the previous CW launch config models (AJ202, AJ203, Black Knights & Santa F-14s). Just a shame CW did not include the compressed front wheel with this one. I think if you can find a good copy of this with minimal defects, I'd say go for it.
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Old 10-28-2016, 09:39 PM   #38
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Just got my copy and am in the process of putting it together.
Can someone tell me if the pieces of the stand just snap together? The top part seems to be very tight and I’m concerned to press too hard trying to “snap” it into place.

Also, there is a 4th small flat clear plastic piece that comes with the stand...can someone tell me what its for?
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Just got my copy and am in the process of putting it together.
Can someone tell me if the pieces of the stand just snap together? The top part seems to be very tight and I’m concerned to press too hard trying to “snap” it into place.

Also, there is a 4th small flat clear plastic piece that comes with the stand...can someone tell me what its for?
Yeah just snap them together regarding the stand and that flat clear piece is for the collector card if I'm not mistaken.
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Yeah just snap them together regarding the stand and that flat clear piece is for the collector card if I'm not mistaken.
Thanks for the tip, didn’t want to break anything. But it’s hard to trust that stand...doesn’t look very reassuring with the model sitting on top of it.

The fit of the armament is very tight in some cases- I had to sand down one fuel tank a bit and will likely have to do the same with the two sidewinders. Those pegs are a little too big for the holes.

Overall, I’m quite happy with this model —*this being my first CW.
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So this Tomcat is turning into Cw's swan song in stead of being their anniversary gift? I already thought from previous photos it looked a bit sloppy, but Skruffy's pics make that the understatement of the year.
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So this Tomcat is turning into Cw's swan song in stead of being their anniversary gift? I already thought from previous photos it looked a bit sloppy, but Skruffy's pics make that the understatement of the year.
Depends on if making money is important to CW as people have been saying, producing diecast models is nothing more than a side line venture for them.
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Photo of actual aircraft (AJ200) showing the skewed Jolly Rogers symbol on the tail.

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Hobby Master also got this right on HA5203.


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Photo of actual aircraft (AJ200) showing the skewed Jolly Rogers symbol on the tail.

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So, what you're saying is HM got it wrong on their recent AJ200?

Coz AFAIK that had straight skull n' bones, right?
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If I go by the caption underneath the photo below.....same serial and year as the model....JR Skull And Bones looks to be positioned correctly straight up and down side to side.....I don't see a skew.


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Dont know if this is the same year and serial.....


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So, what you're saying is HM got it wrong on their recent AJ200?

Coz AFAIK that had straight skull n' bones, right?
Didn't someone post that HM's was the same as CW's initial release?

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If I go by the caption underneath the photo below.....same serial and year as the model....JR Skull And Bones looks to be positioned correctly straight up and down side to side.....I don't see a skew.


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Take another look. The skull is tilted to the right.

Skewed is correct.

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I guess I should have my eyeballs calibrated .....Aye?

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Didn't someone post that HM's was the same as CW's initial release?

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They did indeed, which would mean by extension that they are all wrong. They are slightly skewed perhaps, but this release is dramatically more so.

Which means that until this essential release every AJ200 has been wrong..

Either that, or the skull n' bones are askew just on this one, and a photo from a funny angle, of course..

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They did indeed, which would mean by extension that they are all wrong. They are slightly skewed perhaps, but this release is dramatically more so.

Which means that until this essential release every AJ200 has been wrong..

Either that, or the skull n' bones are askew just on this one, and a photo from a funny angle, of course..
By the photo Dan provided, it doesn't mean they are all wrong. But I agree that this one seems a few degrees more than prev.
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