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Old 07-20-2012, 08:25 PM   #1
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Default Review: Altaya USN Douglas F4D1 Skyray VF-162 "The Hunters"

Just arrived from Jumblies in the U.K.

The Douglas F4D Skyray (later redesignated F-6 Skyray) was an American carrier-based supersonic Fighter/Interceptor built by Douglas. Although it was in service for a relatively short time and never entered combat, it was notable for being the first carrier-launched aircraft to hold the world's absolute speed record, at 752.943 mph, and was the first United States Navy and United States Marine Corps fighter that could exceed Mach 1 in level flight.

The Altaya 1/72 Scale model of the Skyray is surprising in quality given the price (in the low $20.00 range). Not much diecast metal content here as the model is mainly plastic. The packaging is sub par however. Mine arrived with the stand support bouncing around the package and caused a few superficial scratches on the paint. Also once the package is opened it can never be sealed up again.

Overall the shape is accurate and the paint quality is acceptable if not up to the usual diecast standard (quite thin in places). There are also a few quality control issues (My version came with a bent Sidewinder missile which come pre-mounted under the wing and there are a few glue marks on the airframe as well). The Canopy can be removed with some prying and a Hobby Master Pilot fits just fine. The model may be displayed gear up or gear down and a simple display stand is included.

Since the Skyray is unlikely to be done by a major diecast company any time soon I would say that this makes it a must buy for anyone who collects U.S. Naval aircraft.

Overall a good value but quality issues in my opinion mean that these "Magazine Diecast Models" will not be a threat to Mainstream Diecast Manufacturers anytime soon.

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P.S. Here is the link to the French Magazine (Journaux) that sponsors these models:

http://www.journaux.fr/avions-de-com..._1_457949.html





















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Old 07-20-2012, 08:34 PM   #2
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That would be a very handsome HM production, not a large model so the price should be reasonable too. Your model is a nice stopgap to the USN lineup. It's actually not that bad.
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Old 07-20-2012, 09:31 PM   #3
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Default Re: Review: Altaya USN Douglas F4D1 Skyray VF-162 "The Hunters"

Headed straight to Ebay to find one.
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:44 PM   #4
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Like I said the Skyray a must for the US Navy Collection.

I would like to see Hobby Master or Falcon Models take on some more Post War US Navy Jets such as the Vought F7U Cutlass and the Grumman F11F Tiger (both of which wore "Blue Angels" Colours as well).

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Overall a good value but quality issues in my opinion mean that these "Magazine Diecast Models" will not be a threat to Mainstream Diecast Manufacturers anytime soon.
Not a threat to the major diecast manufacturers but a gift for the (diecast) collectors as they earn their merits for giving us some decent (and some real good!) models of airplanes aside the usual mainstream stuff!

I'm wondering why they don't use their existing molds for something like a "platinum"-series with a higher amount of diecast and some more detailed weapons and undercarriage?

But to come back to topic: Thx for the nice review of the Skyray, AC Pilot! Not really a "must-have" for me, so i'll pass, but still one of Altayas better efforts as i can see.


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I'd love to see a nice Cutlass.
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I'd love to see a nice Cutlass.
Me too. The Edsel of the Navy planes! But it sure was different.
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Me too. The Edsel of the Navy planes! But it sure was different.
Navy pilots had a different opinion and were glad to see its replacement coming ! I like the look of it though.
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Navy pilots had a different opinion and were glad to see its replacement coming ! I like the look of it though.
Years ago, my father-in-law told me about his time in the Navy. He told me that several times the captains of aircraft carriers would "beach" their Cutlasses and sail without them rather than risk the pilot's lives.
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Years ago, my father-in-law told me about his time in the Navy. He told me that several times the captains of aircraft carriers would "beach" their Cutlasses and sail without them rather than risk the pilot's lives.
It doesn't surprise me much. But I wonder how a CV captain could prevent an unit to board his ship ?

Some F7U videos :

Some nice color footage
Vought F7U Cutlass - YouTube

A long sequence showing many good landings, a few incidents, and an awful crash landing
F-837 F7U Carrier Crash - YouTube

And back to topic, some F4Ds (among others)
Douglas F4D, Grumman S2, Sikorsky H-34/S-58, Goodyear Blimp - USS Saratoga, USS Valley Forge - YouTube
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It doesn't surprise me much. But I wonder how a CV captain could prevent an unit to board his ship ?
The captain has a mission-specific assignment when he takes his air wing aboard, they don't take all the aircraft in a normal air group. There actually weren't all that many Cutlasses in the Navy inventory, and many air groups had several aircraft types among them. So if USS Oriskany had a squadron of Cutlasses, one of Cougars and one of Tigers, they may elect to leave the Cutlasses at home because they don't need a full wing.
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