02-21-2012, 12:42 PM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
This is great news! I'm personally eyeing the Tawianese F-16. Its interesting though, that the first F-16 releases from Hobby Master will all depict planes from foreign airforces. No love for F-16s from the good ol' USA?
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02-21-2012, 12:45 PM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
The first one IS a US plane, from the Triple Nickel at Aviano AB.
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02-21-2012, 12:58 PM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
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02-21-2012, 01:00 PM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
Nevermind, I guess i was corrected.  .
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02-21-2012, 01:47 PM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
I believe the Triple Nickel participated in missions over Libya as well. You are right Dan, without knowing more about the time period we're not sure if the HM model represents a combat plane.
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02-21-2012, 03:05 PM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
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Originally Posted by CarbonPlane
I believe the Triple Nickel participated in missions over Libya as well. You are right Dan, without knowing more about the time period we're not sure if the HM model represents a combat plane.
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Found a pic of the real aircraft taken at Aviano in 1997. The F-16 CG was optimized for the Night attack mission and was called the " Night Falcon".
Hobby Master please note the Grey Helmet for the pilot (not white as in the artwork).
Dan
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02-21-2012, 03:41 PM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
finally....seldom do I like a first model release with a livery i wanted.....but this F-16 from Aviano is a ''must have'' for me....its a Beauty
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02-21-2012, 03:56 PM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
This one should be a block 40 jet not 42 and was painted in two shades of grey not three ie gunship grey/medium grey
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02-22-2012, 05:58 AM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
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Originally Posted by mar_ji
finally....seldom do I like a first model release with a livery i wanted.....
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Good for you!
I'll pass them... not my taste
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02-22-2012, 06:14 AM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
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Originally Posted by mar_ji
finally....seldom do I like a first model release with a livery i wanted.....but this F-16 from Aviano is a ''must have'' for me....its a Beauty
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hey mar_ji I bet you will get alot of dutch F-16s right?
This one is indeed a beauty. Must email HM about the comments above.
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02-22-2012, 09:41 PM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
Interesting choice. They seem to be following suit in a livery scheme with the Hogan Wings series. If that is the case, I hope they do an IDF/AF next. Given the tensions inthe middle east, it might be a good thing to pop one or two out in the near future. I am not really keen on the ROCAF although they look nice. As for a US F-16, I would like to see a stateside model myself. I waited long enough that I can wait a little longer to get a livery I am interested in.
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02-22-2012, 10:36 PM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
What does livery mean?
I want US squads. True I want my national squad markings but we dont have much of an airforce so Im collecting the Russian and US markings of their makes. When Chinas stealth plane is ready Im sure Ill get theirs for the collection.
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02-22-2012, 10:41 PM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
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Originally Posted by Archangel
What does livery mean?
I want US squads. True I want my national squad markings but we dont have much of an airforce so Im collecting the Russian and US markings of their makes. When Chinas stealth plane is ready Im sure Ill get theirs for the collection.
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Livery is the decoration on the model, the markings and colors. True, US Air Force aircraft are interesting and there are a lots of markings to choose from, but F-16s were sold to many nations, and those are pretty interesting also. Some of them extremely colorful, especially anniversary and Tiger Meet aircraft.
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02-22-2012, 10:44 PM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
By the way, Australia has a ton of great aircraft and livery schemes. Most of their aircraft from the 1960s on were US-built, but they have a number of European and British designs in the RAAF too.
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02-23-2012, 05:13 AM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
I personally find nothing wrong with the Aviano based F-16s squadron....theyre one of the most active squadrons active outside the mainland during the past wars....its a USAF F-16 anyway....the rest will come from various foreign users and of course from the mainland too...no hurry
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02-23-2012, 01:45 PM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
Excellent news. Been hearing rumors of the HM F-16's for a while. The ROCAF one is probably a must. Looking forward to their introduction of the two-seaters as well.
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02-29-2012, 10:05 AM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
Here is the revised artwork for the USAF 555th version.
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02-29-2012, 11:30 AM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
Thanks Dan. I'm happy to see that they are listening.
The fuselage is now the correct 2 tone grey, but what about the pylons, fuel tank, missiles, and targeting pod? Shouldn't they match the fuselage?
Looks like they updated the engine nozzle as well.
Last edited by Skinner67; 02-29-2012 at 11:31 AM.
Reason: spelling
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02-29-2012, 02:18 PM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
the targeting pod and weapons load look great ....does anyone know of the tentative release of the model ?
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02-29-2012, 03:45 PM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
[QUOTE=mar_ji;941117]the targeting pod and weapons load look great ....does anyone know of the tentative release of the model ?[/QUOTE]
I'm gonna guess May.
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02-29-2012, 09:00 PM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
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Originally Posted by mar_ji
the targeting pod and weapons load look great ....does anyone know of the tentative release of the model ?
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April 2012 Release
Usually at N. American and European retailers the following month.
So May 2012 is a correct guess!
Dan
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03-01-2012, 05:08 AM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
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Originally Posted by ACpilot
April 2012 Release
Usually at N. American and European retailers the following month.
So May 2012 is a correct guess!
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thanks for the info, AC pilot.... 
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03-01-2012, 07:06 AM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
Hope they come up with a B/D version as well. And also looking forward to their F-18E/F releases as well as F-15 series hopefully, especially the mud hen.
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03-01-2012, 04:21 PM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
Thanks Dan
All we need now is to see the pre-pros. We'll know then if we should tell HM of any more errors.
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03-02-2012, 07:02 AM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
The Aviano Viper should be doing pretty well especially here in Europe I think. I am glad they are releasing both a C- and an A-model. Looks promising esp for us NATO-fighter collectors.
One thing I do hope is that HM will not only release special liveries but also the bog-standard F-16s.
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03-02-2012, 08:06 AM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
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Originally Posted by Richard from Rotterdam
One thing I do hope is that HM will not only release special liveries but also the bog-standard F-16s.
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Agreed. A battle ready livery is a must have. Not sure if anyone has asked this before, but will the USAF F-16CG have an open or closed nozzle?
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03-02-2012, 12:35 PM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
Here is the four view drawing now showing the dual GBU-12 arrangement along with Lantirn Pod.
Dan
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03-02-2012, 01:36 PM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
I be liking this. Thanks Dan.
BLOCK 40 !?!?!
I wish they would offer additional munitions like the asymmetrical load in my previous post in the thread (#4).
Actually I cannot find a single pic of an F-16CG with that loadout. I acknowledge that I'm no expert, and I do almost all my research on Google, but the pic in post #4 and this one below show a different rail for the bombs:
If I were William, I would probably hate all us forumers, and say... "fine, here's your stinkin F-16... you do better..."
Last edited by Skinner67; 03-02-2012 at 01:51 PM.
Reason: added photos and some text
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03-02-2012, 07:28 PM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
The picture you used is a 1/48 Scale Hasegawa model so I wouldn't place a lot of faith in that load configuration.
I would prefer to see some actual pics of real airplanes to be convinced.
Dan
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03-02-2012, 07:32 PM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
Im just too happy with the first USAF issue of the F-16.....livery and weapon load are good to begin with....as someone said....this is just the beginning of a long list of versions and liveries to be done just like the F-4 Phantoms....a long way to go
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03-02-2012, 08:33 PM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
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Now that looks freakin awesome, HM take note.
My only response would be..... How much ??? lol
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03-02-2012, 09:37 PM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
Quote:
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The picture you used is a 1/48 Scale Hasegawa model so I wouldn't place a lot of faith in that load configuration.
I would prefer to see some actual pics of real airplanes to be convinced.
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Wow. That is one fine model. It had me fooled. The one in post 4 is still real... I think...
Here are more pics...
Now, these two pics below show a side-by-side rail mount, but a different type of munition:
The following was taken at Aviano in 2011, so this platform may be newer than the one HM is using:
http://www.af.mil/photos/mediagaller...ryid=10&page=9
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Reason: added images
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03-03-2012, 11:45 AM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
Four View Drawing is out for the Taiwanese F-16.
Dan
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03-03-2012, 12:28 PM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
the A models looks more simple than later models i think....looks good anyway
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03-22-2012, 02:22 PM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
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03-22-2012, 03:29 PM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
Should look something like this!
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03-22-2012, 07:07 PM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
I'll pass and wait for HM to do an Israeli F-16.
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03-23-2012, 03:26 AM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
I'm amazed at how quickly HM is building up its F-16 portfolio. The Polish one with conformal fuel tanks looks awesome.
hehe, in the real world I's say to the JSF-countries: skip the F-35 and buy more Vipers! The new F-16V should be more than enough fighter for half the price...
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03-28-2012, 07:47 PM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
Last edited by mar_ji; 03-28-2012 at 07:51 PM.
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03-28-2012, 09:40 PM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
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You would rather have Dutch Air Force Pilots risk their lives in any future conflict with obsolete equipment?
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03-28-2012, 11:16 PM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
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I think they are active in NATO and I guess everyone's wanting to standardize. Maybe they just want one so HM can make a model for you.
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03-29-2012, 03:54 AM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
Haha, well first let's wait and see if this F-35 will work at all, shall we? NATO-standard bombs that don't fit in the internal bomb-bay, arrestor-hook design flaws, weapons systems that don't work, etc etc etc. I seriously doubt this jet will make a huge difference to a brand-new F-16 with AESA radar and the newest weapons, apart from the enormous price-tag.
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03-29-2012, 08:12 AM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
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I suppose it's a question for the Dutch government. Spain are active in NATO and they fly F-18s rather than the F-16.
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03-29-2012, 08:32 AM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
The current Dutch government doesn't plan to place an order for fleet replacement, they are pushing it forward to a new government, with 2014 being the earliest date.
But, with the first Dutch F-35 already fitted with an engine by Lockheed Martin it is easy to see what the intentions are.
The Dutch ministry of defence is a bit naive though, as they still intend to buy 85 jets for a grand total of EUR 4.5 billion (USD 6 billion) which means USD 70 million per jet. Whereas latest US government figures show the current flyaway price at USD 135 million, and this will only increase over the years to come. And that is a huge amount of money for an airplane that has proven itself only on computers and paper...
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04-12-2012, 03:24 AM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
I would love to see HM do an F-16I Sufa. That would be a must have.....
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04-12-2012, 03:40 AM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
that would be the only HM F-16 that I wouldn't buy. It just looks too ugly with all the additions of spine & conformal ...
it barely looks like an F-16 anymore. The particular livery of that jet is too unattractive too but unfortunately many collectors love it. I wish HM would go plain on the F-16 and just make the regular USAF and ANG ones, like they did with the hornet.
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04-12-2012, 04:32 AM
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Re: Hobby Master F-16s
The F-16C Barak then, perhaps with the current upgrade of block 50 capability. But Witty did that already with the mistaked wide-mouth intake for squadron they chose.
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