09-20-2012, 06:21 PM
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Master Collector
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KLM Boeing 737-200 PH-TVX again?
Just wondering why JC Wings would release KLM Boeing 737-200 PH-TVX leased from Transavia in 1:400 scale (as per EZtoys website). Already done by Aeroclassics. So is it going to be different in any way? Would have much rather seen that registration in Transavia colours.
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09-20-2012, 06:37 PM
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King of the Geeks
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Re: KLM Boeing 737-200 PH-TVX again?
Makes no sense. Why wouldn't they select something different?
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09-22-2012, 02:18 PM
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The Truth Detector
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Re: KLM Boeing 737-200 PH-TVX again?
Because they are without any originality, and can only copy what others have already done!
More so, the copies of previous releases by other companies they make, are done on inferior moulds with substandard QC.
Besides being cheaper (remember; you get what you pay for!!!), they have no positive attributes!
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09-22-2012, 04:50 PM
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Re: KLM Boeing 737-200 PH-TVX again?
Just like all the airbus models you're doing, right!
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09-22-2012, 11:05 PM
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The Truth Detector
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Re: KLM Boeing 737-200 PH-TVX again?
Wrong Tim; it makes a difference when you put something newer/BETTER to the market, not something inferior to what exists.
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09-25-2012, 10:46 AM
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Re: KLM Boeing 737-200 PH-TVX again?
"aklein707;983164: Wrong Tim, it makes a difference when you put something newer/BETTER to the market, not something inferior to what exists."
Totally agree. Although the market has been flooded with 1/400 Lockheed L-1011 Tristars, it still hasn't really been done correctly... Keep 'em flying, Doug
Last edited by doug seeley; 09-25-2012 at 10:48 AM.
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09-25-2012, 07:54 PM
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Everyone Is A Toaster!
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Re: KLM Boeing 737-200 PH-TVX again?
I Agree Better Quality Models Are Preferred, ButThe Inferiority Complex Never ceases To Disgust. One Eventually Becomes sick Of It And Buys The "Infierior" Product anyway.
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09-25-2012, 07:58 PM
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The Truth Detector
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Re: KLM Boeing 737-200 PH-TVX again?
Rick, I can't help personality disorders of collectors who prefer to fill their collection with junk, because they don't like me, or my opinion.
Most of us real collectors have standards, and would refuse to buy junk.
With the collecting habits and standards you've shown over the years, you should restrict your purchases to the firesales on Skybusters at Wal-Mart, or JC wings. Same caliber!!
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09-26-2012, 07:45 AM
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Re: KLM Boeing 737-200 PH-TVX again?
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Rick, I can't help personality disorders of collectors who prefer to fill their collection with junk, because they don't like me, or my opinion.
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The forums would be a lot more boring without you and your opinions. Unfortunately, Todd has banned me on 400SH because of mine so no more reviews of AC products, histories or model airport scenes over there any more  We might have strong opinions either right or wrong, but isn't that what forums are for?
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1/400th new mould wish list - you're doing a great job manufacturers, now just these left to do:
Armstrong-Whitworth Argosy,Bristol 170 Freighter,Airspeed Ambassador,Avro York,Breguet 763 Deux Ponts,
Tupolev Tu-104,Tu-114,Tu-134, Ilyushin IL-14, Canadair CL-44, L-1649A Starliner, Curtiss C-46
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09-26-2012, 08:12 AM
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The Truth Detector
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Re: KLM Boeing 737-200 PH-TVX again?
So true Adrian, so true!!
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09-26-2012, 10:00 AM
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Re: KLM Boeing 737-200 PH-TVX again?
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Originally Posted by aklein707
Rick, I can't help personality disorders of collectors who prefer to fill their collection with junk, because they don't like me, or my opinion.
Most of us real collectors have standards, and would refuse to buy junk.
With the collecting habits and standards you've shown over the years, you should restrict your purchases to the firesales on Skybusters at Wal-Mart, or JC wings. Same caliber!!
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I think you would do well in the used car business.
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09-26-2012, 11:17 PM
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Just Collector
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Re: KLM Boeing 737-200 PH-TVX again?
correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't it supposed to be the owner of jc wings who should respond this thread, and not the owner of aeroclassics?
help me, cos i'm confused here
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09-27-2012, 02:57 AM
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The Truth Detector
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Re: KLM Boeing 737-200 PH-TVX again?
This is a public forum; why should you care who posts an opinion?
Hell would freeze over before those blokes would give a proper response when called on something.
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09-27-2012, 11:52 AM
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Frogger
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Re: KLM Boeing 737-200 PH-TVX again?
Just like it has over at the Buzz for everyone who is still anxiously awaiting to hear how the AeroClassics Guarantee would benefit them from purchasing only from authorized retailers.
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09-27-2012, 12:09 PM
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The Truth Detector
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Re: KLM Boeing 737-200 PH-TVX again?
and what guarantee is that??
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09-27-2012, 04:22 PM
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Re: KLM Boeing 737-200 PH-TVX again?
Oops ...
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09-27-2012, 07:59 PM
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Everyone Is A Toaster!
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Re: KLM Boeing 737-200 PH-TVX again?
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Rick, I can't help personality disorders of collectors who prefer to fill their collection with junk, because they don't like me, or my opinion.
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Nothing Wrong With Opinions,The Problem Is Extremeism and Hurtful Rhetoric, Which Is Always The Case With You. The SMA KLM 737 Is Available Online Via Private Sale And It's A Good Choice. And That My Friend Is Not Only Opinion, But Fact, Especially Since I Bought It Directly From You.
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Originally Posted by aklein707
Most of us real collectors have standards, and would refuse to buy junk.
With the collecting habits and standards you've shown over the years, you should restrict your purchases to the firesales on Skybusters at Wal-Mart, or JC wings. Same caliber!!
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Oh, So You're Opinion To Me And All The Dac Readers Is That All Those Aeroclassics I Bought Are Junk Are They? So Now You're Admitting Your Models Are Junk? Bad Case Of Mouth Disease Again Klink?
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09-27-2012, 08:22 PM
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Everyone Is A Toaster!
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Re: KLM Boeing 737-200 PH-TVX again?
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and what guarantee is that??
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Gaurantee We Won't Be Compensated For The Zinc Plague
What Is The Sloagan Again? "Like Fine Wine, Aeroclassics Gets Better With Time"
What You Really Mean Is "Like Rotten Grapes, Aeroclassics Sours From Zinc Rot With Time"
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09-27-2012, 09:11 PM
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Master Collector
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Re: KLM Boeing 737-200 PH-TVX again?
I can't believe that zinc rot issue is still being dragged up after 10 years. Sounds like my late grandma, bless her soul, who until her final days used to complain how I stuffed a liverworst into her couch when I was 5 or so.
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09-27-2012, 09:53 PM
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Just Collector
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Re: KLM Boeing 737-200 PH-TVX again?
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Originally Posted by aklein707
This is a public forum; why should you care who posts an opinion?
Hell would freeze over before those blokes would give a proper response when called on something.
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hahaha, hope it's not because of persona like lady gaga or o'leary who crave for lots of attention.. 
anyway, it's my opinion, you can care for it or ignore it like you always do
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09-27-2012, 10:06 PM
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Frogger
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Re: KLM Boeing 737-200 PH-TVX again?
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Originally Posted by aklein707
and what guarantee is that??
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Oh, I'm sorry...the Aero Classics WARRANTY.
Oh, yes...the thread that was started on 11-21-2010 on the Buzz. It looks like the user name "aklein707" has deleted the majority of his posts in the thread but there are still enough people who quoted him before the deletion. It mentions a warranty that only applies to Aero Classics if purchased from "proper channels" and later on how complaints should be addressed to the factory, WITY Industrial?
If you don't remember this then that is deeply regrettable as you either just flat out forgot or someone is using your username here without your authorization.
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09-28-2012, 01:42 AM
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The Truth Detector
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Re: KLM Boeing 737-200 PH-TVX again?
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Originally Posted by L-1011-Heavy
Gaurantee We Won't Be Compensated For The Zinc Plague
What Is The Sloagan Again? "Like Fine Wine, Aeroclassics Gets Better With Time"
What You Really Mean Is "Like Rotten Grapes, Aeroclassics Sours From Zinc Rot With Time"
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Rick, I told you years ago not to put your models in the microwave oven!!
Look at what it did to your models, and the collateral damage to your brain!
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09-28-2012, 01:52 AM
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Re: KLM Boeing 737-200 PH-TVX again?
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Rick, I told you years ago not to put your models in the microwave oven!!
Look at what it did to your models, and the collateral damage to your brain!
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Possibly standing a tad close to that microwave too. I Mean Who Types With The First Word Of Everything In Caps? Not only is it wrong, but time consuming to boot.
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09-28-2012, 03:41 AM
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The Truth Detector
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Re: KLM Boeing 737-200 PH-TVX again?
Time consuming are your useless and meaningless posts!!
WTF are you talking about anyways? Or do you just feel the need to be heard?
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09-28-2012, 11:53 AM
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Re: KLM Boeing 737-200 PH-TVX again?
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Time consuming are your useless and meaningless posts!!
WTF are you talking about anyways? Or do you just feel the need to be heard?
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Think that one wizzed right over you. I was referring to Rick up there.
Thanks for playing.
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09-28-2012, 09:27 PM
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Just Collector
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Re: KLM Boeing 737-200 PH-TVX again?
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Think that one wizzed right over you. I was referring to Rick up there.
Thanks for playing.
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i thought you already knew that mr. klein never needs anyone to defend him
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09-28-2012, 09:36 PM
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Re: KLM Boeing 737-200 PH-TVX again?
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i thought you already knew that mr. klein never needs anyone to defend him 
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Seriously. I thought Klein made a great point and I was building on it. Then I get shaat on by the guy.
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09-29-2012, 02:28 AM
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Re: KLM Boeing 737-200 PH-TVX again?
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Seriously. I thought Klein made a great point and I was building on it. Then I get shaat on by the guy.
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Sorry Abraham; too much flying, not enough sleep = fail to see that we actually are in agreement yet again  Sorry for jumping the gun!!
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09-29-2012, 11:21 AM
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Re: KLM Boeing 737-200 PH-TVX again?
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Sorry Abraham; too much flying, not enough sleep = fail to see that we actually are in agreement yet again  Sorry for jumping the gun!!
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Haha I knew you just weren't seeing it right. But, I have to give you crap for jumping on me right?
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10-04-2012, 04:18 AM
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Re: KLM Boeing 737-200 PH-TVX again?
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The forums would be a lot more boring without you and your opinions. Unfortunately, Todd has banned me on 400SH because of mine so no more reviews of AC products, histories or model airport scenes over there any more  We might have strong opinions either right or wrong, but isn't that what forums are for?
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Sorry to hear that Adrian, I banned myself (or rarther, I chose to post elsewhere) after enquiring as to why some of my posts were deleted ? Was told there was nothing wrong with them but were caught up amongst a thread Todd didn't like.
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We might have strong opinions either right or wrong, but isn't that what forums are for ?
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10-04-2012, 07:49 AM
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Re: KLM Boeing 737-200 PH-TVX again?
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Originally Posted by arctic9048
Oh, I'm sorry...the Aero Classics WARRANTY.
Oh, yes...the thread that was started on 11-21-2010 on the Buzz. It looks like the user name "aklein707" has deleted the majority of his posts in the thread but there are still enough people who quoted him before the deletion. It mentions a warranty that only applies to Aero Classics if purchased from "proper channels" and later on how complaints should be addressed to the factory, WITY Industrial?
If you don't remember this then that is deeply regrettable as you either just flat out forgot or someone is using your username here without your authorization.
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This one is a little older than 11/21/2010 ? ...
Buddy
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10-04-2012, 11:39 AM
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The Truth Detector
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Re: KLM Boeing 737-200 PH-TVX again?
Buddy, that quote is over 10 years old!!
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10-04-2012, 02:36 PM
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Re: KLM Boeing 737-200 PH-TVX again?
Honestly... after 10 years, some people here still bring up the Witty disaster, it's almost becoming funny. I guess ole Rick still refuses to buy a Ford because they made the barbecue that seats 4 many years ago (the Pinto for the younger folks on this forum). People seem to have gotten over that one quicker than a toy (oops sorry), model airplace issue.
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10-04-2012, 04:45 PM
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Re: KLM Boeing 737-200 PH-TVX again?
I am old enough to know exactly what you are talking about with the Pinto. I didn't even need to Google it. Seriously though,it was a terrible thing. Sorry to stray off topic.
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10-04-2012, 05:17 PM
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Re: KLM Boeing 737-200 PH-TVX again?
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Honestly... after 10 years, some people here still bring up the Witty disaster, it's almost becoming funny. I guess ole Rick still refuses to buy a Ford because they made the barbecue that seats 4 many years ago (the Pinto for the younger folks on this forum). People seem to have gotten over that one quicker than a toy (oops sorry), model airplace issue.
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You don't see other manufacturers come on here and bash others like children in middle school. What makes it worse is that he likes to talk a big game as if his ship is perfect but it isn't.
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10-04-2012, 10:35 PM
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Re: KLM Boeing 737-200 PH-TVX again?
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You don't see other manufacturers come on here and bash others like children in middle school. What makes it worse is that he likes to talk a big game as if his ship is perfect but it isn't.
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Nobody's perfect, not me, and especially not you.
I've never laid claim to perfection, however, the sleazebags you're sticking up for, aka Witty400 or Johan Chan, well deserve whatever they're called on, be it by me, or anyone else.
Live with it!
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