Funny stuff, Dylan. Nice find. The interesting thing about that clip is how they say they're going to Canada if she makes it to the White House....My girlfriend and I were saying the same thing the other week
Funny stuff, Dylan. Nice find. The interesting thing about that clip is how they say they're going to Canada if she makes it to the White House....My girlfriend and I were saying the same thing the other week
I have heard that it can be just a tad colder than Hawaii - you'll have to swap surfing for sliding deliveries on the ice sheets at the Curling halls.
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abortion is not free will its not the will of the mother, you are killing a baby, the baby has will and he can't speak up... abortion is murder not free will...
abortion is not free will its not the will of the mother, you are killing a baby, the baby has will and he can't speak up... abortion is murder not free will...
So, if a women is raped and she becomes impregnated, she doesn't have the right to be able to get an abortion.........I mean, you obviously would not feel too swift about that if you were put in that situation.
Anyway that's not the point. Sarah Palin has no experience and would further help ruin this country.
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So, if a women is raped and she becomes impregnated, she doesn't have the right to be able to get an abortion.........I mean, you obviously would not feel too swift about that if you were put in that situation.
Anyway that's not the point. Sarah Palin has no experience and would further help ruin this country.
i dont care about palin, im not american but im against abortion... about the raped girl, she does not have the right to kill that baby its now in her and she has to live with it everything happens for a reason, with a raped woman or not abortion is MURDER!
i dont care about palin, im not american but im against abortion... about the raped girl, she does not have the right to kill that baby its now in her and she has to live with it everything happens for a reason, with a raped woman or not abortion is MURDER!
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about the raped girl, she does not have the right to kill that baby its now in her and she has to live with it everything happens for a reason, with a raped woman or not abortion is MURDER!
Jesus.....you are one delusional little 16 year old mexican.
i dont care about palin, im not american but im against abortion... about the raped girl, she does not have the right to kill that baby its now in her and she has to live with it everything happens for a reason, with a raped woman or not abortion is MURDER!
so im the only one who really thinks abortion is bad?
Yeah, I think that you are.
Not for killing needlessly, just think that Stem cell research is fantastic, and that we should be pursuing this much more.
With regards to abortion, we are walking a thin line with that one. Anyone who doesn't want the baby, or will choose to not care for it, should not have one. If the child is abused, the costs of repairing that damage are immense, along with the fact that food, water and just simply space are getting into short supply, it is better for almost everyone to only have planned, consentual pregnancies.
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i dont care about palin, im not american but im against abortion... about the raped girl, she does not have the right to kill that baby its now in her and she has to live with it everything happens for a reason, with a raped woman or not abortion is MURDER!
I would challenge you to say that to a 16 year old girl who has just been raped (or any woman, for that matter). Get off your high horse.
Not for killing needlessly, just think that Stem cell research is fantastic, and that we should be pursuing this much more.
With regards to abortion, we are walking a thin line with that one. Anyone who doesn't want the baby, or will choose to not care for it, should not have one. If the child is abused, the costs of repairing that damage are immense, along with the fact that food, water and just simply space are getting into short supply, it is better for almost everyone to only have planned, consentual pregnancies.
so your killing babies because theres no space and water and food? and i challenge you to ask a person whom their parents didn't care for him, if he woulded prefer to be aborted.... i dont know but i have friends who their parents gave them on adoption or hited him will kid and they didn't wanted to be aborted...
Abortion is wrong, therefore, because it is a failure to love, appreciate, and care for a human baby. It is also wrong because it constitutes the deliberate killing of an innocent human being. When people defend abortion, their arguments should always be evaluated in light of the fact that the unborn baby is a human being, a separate individual from its mother. Therefore, deliberately killing it would be just as wrong as killing any other innocent human being. What should a woman do if she has aborted a baby and now realizes she did wrong?
so your killing babies because theres no space and water and food? and i challenge you to ask a person whom their parents didn't care for him, if he woulded prefer to be aborted.... i dont know but i have friends who their parents gave them on adoption or hited him will kid and they didn't wanted to be aborted...
Abortion is wrong, therefore, because it is a failure to love, appreciate, and care for a human baby. It is also wrong because it constitutes the deliberate killing of an innocent human being. When people defend abortion, their arguments should always be evaluated in light of the fact that the unborn baby is a human being, a separate individual from its mother. Therefore, deliberately killing it would be just as wrong as killing any other innocent human being. What should a woman do if she has aborted a baby and now realizes she did wrong?
You are entitled to your opinion. That's what you stand for then good for you.
But if a woman is raped and she is forced to have that child, will she be able to love it knowing that it was conceived in such a horrible way. Will she ever be able to look at the child without remembering that the father is some sick disgusting rapist?
It's not fair for a woman to have to carry a child that she will never love, and that was conceived through rape. And it's not fair for a child to be born with a rapist as a father.
If abortion is murder, is a miscarriage involuntary manslaughter???
If a woman has a history of having miscarriages, should she not be allowed to try and get pregnant because the risk of "murder" is too high??
so your killing babies because theres no space and water and food? and i challenge you to ask a person whom their parents didn't care for him, if he woulded prefer to be aborted.... i dont know but i have friends who their parents gave them on adoption or hited him will kid and they didn't wanted to be aborted...
Abortion is wrong, therefore, because it is a failure to love, appreciate, and care for a human baby. It is also wrong because it constitutes the deliberate killing of an innocent human being. When people defend abortion, their arguments should always be evaluated in light of the fact that the unborn baby is a human being, a separate individual from its mother. Therefore, deliberately killing it would be just as wrong as killing any other innocent human being. What should a woman do if she has aborted a baby and now realizes she did wrong?
I really think that we need a woman's perspective on this.
Cue Jo-Anne!
Oh, and, there is such a thing as the separation between church and state.
Do you remember your time in utero? No, of course not, therefore, how can you say that you were able to experience pain when your nerve cells were not fully developed. Certainly, the destruction of human life is unacceptable, however, a coat-hanger is being used instead of a scalpel (pardon the pun).
IMHO, it is the woman's choice, if she does not want the child and would be burdened to care for it, she has the right to abort it. You cannot possibly look at this on a case-by-case basis, if you want to, fine. Your judgement is not an acceptable yardstick, any more than mine. The parent's have control over their child until he/she is of legal age. 18 in the US, 17 elsewhere. The whole idea about telling people what they can or can't do with their child is preposterous, if you can find a caring home for the child, that's fine, it should be the parent's responsibility, and not a government entity.
im not saying to keep it, she could give it on adoption...there is 0 pregnansies out of 4500 rapes!...the thing is not to alloy abortion...only if mothers liffe is in danger a raped mother can give a child in adoption, believe me that child will thank you for that... o so parents responsability until 18..so parents can do what ever they like with their child...? their responsability not state....its the same killing a baby in a womb than a newborn!
You are entitled to your opinion. That's what you stand for then good for you.
But if a woman is raped and she is forced to have that child, will she be able to love it knowing that it was conceived in such a horrible way. Will she ever be able to look at the child without remembering that the father is some sick disgusting rapist?
It's not fair for a woman to have to carry a child that she will never love, and that was conceived through rape. And it's not fair for a child to be born with a rapist as a father.
If abortion is murder, is a miscarriage involuntary manslaughter???
If a woman has a history of having miscarriages, should she not be allowed to try and get pregnant because the risk of "murder" is too high??
For the love of GOD! I ACTUALLY completely and totally agree with you on something! Excelleant point, and well written!
hey i go with palin she has pretty good ideas... say no to abortion! LIFE!
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are you with abortion?
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abortion is not free will its not the will of the mother, you are killing a baby, the baby has will and he can't speak up... abortion is murder not free will...
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i dont care about palin, im not american but im against abortion... about the raped girl, she does not have the right to kill that baby its now in her and she has to live with it everything happens for a reason, with a raped woman or not abortion is MURDER!
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so im the only one who really thinks abortion is bad?
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relax homie im not insuting no one i respect you so i demand respect from you.... abortion is bad thats my point of view...
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so your killing babies because theres no space and water and food? and i challenge you to ask a person whom their parents didn't care for him, if he woulded prefer to be aborted.... i dont know but i have friends who their parents gave them on adoption or hited him will kid and they didn't wanted to be aborted...
Abortion is wrong, therefore, because it is a failure to love, appreciate, and care for a human baby. It is also wrong because it constitutes the deliberate killing of an innocent human being. When people defend abortion, their arguments should always be evaluated in light of the fact that the unborn baby is a human being, a separate individual from its mother. Therefore, deliberately killing it would be just as wrong as killing any other innocent human being. What should a woman do if she has aborted a baby and now realizes she did wrong?
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im not saying to keep it, she could give it on adoption...there is 0 pregnansies out of 4500 rapes!...the thing is not to alloy abortion...only if mothers liffe is in danger a raped mother can give a child in adoption, believe me that child will thank you for that... o so parents responsability until 18..so parents can do what ever they like with their child...? their responsability not state....its the same killing a baby in a womb than a newborn!
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Jonatan-
You really need to put "I believe" , or "I think", or "It's my opinion that.." in front of all these bold statements that you are making. Because if you don't, and you keep spewing these statements and making it look like fact instead of opinion, you wind up looking really stupid.
Oh, and don't ever DEMAND respect from anyone. You won't get it. Especially from me.
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well if you say so... and next time i'll put the... i think....
You Actually Think? I'm Not So Sure. You Can't Even Make An Intelligible Sentence. (Structure, Grammar, Spelling)
You Type Like The Town Drunk With A Grade 3 Edumacation.
With Your VAST Experience And Knowledge At 16, Where Do You Get All Your Facts On Abortion And Rapes?
I Don't Pretend To Take Sides On The Abortion Subject Because It's Too Touchy.
Mabe I Don't Know Much About Biology And The Miracle Of Life, But The Many Documentaries I Watch On TV Say That A Fetus Is Not A Baby. It Is Not Sentient And Has No Feelings Of Any Kind. Or Perhaps Mabe One Of Those Fetuses Told You "I Love You"
Matter Of Fact, I Have Not Even Experienced One Single Newborn That Shows Sentience Of Any Kind Until At Least 2 Or 3 Months.
They're Pretty Much Catatonic.
Because I'm Neither Right Wing Nor Left Wing On The Subject I Try To Take A Pragmatic Approach.
I Support Abortions In Extenuating Circumstances, Which I Believe Is The Case In Most Instances, Otherwise Why Would A Sane Mother Get Rid Of It?
I Don't Think For One Instance Women Get Pregnant Just So They Can Get Their Kicks By Killing A Fetus, But That's How You Come Across So Don't Judge These Poeple. You Don't Have The Right, Particularly At A Naive 16 Year Old.
BTW Dylan Just Gave You The Best Advice Of Your Life.
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You Actually Think? I'm Not So Sure. You Can't Even Make An Intelligible Sentence. (Structure, Grammar, Spelling)
You Type Like The Town Drunk With A Grade 3 Edumacation.
With Your VAST Experience And Knowledge At 16, Where Do You Get All Your Facts On Abortion And Rapes?
I Don't Pretend To Take Sides On The Abortion Subject Because It's Too Touchy.
Mabe I Don't Know Much About Biology And The Miracle Of Life, But The Many Documentaries I Watch On TV Say That A Fetus Is Not A Baby. It Is Not Sentient And Has No Feelings Of Any Kind. Or Perhaps Mabe One Of Those Fetuses Told You "I Love You"
Matter Of Fact, I Have Not Even Experienced One Single Newborn That Shows Sentience Of Any Kind Until At Least 2 Or 3 Months.
They're Pretty Much Catatonic.
Because I'm Neither Right Wing Nor Left Wing On The Subject I Try To Take A Pragmatic Approach.
I Support Abortions In Extenuating Circumstances, Which I Believe Is The Case In Most Instances, Otherwise Why Would A Sane Mother Get Rid Of It?
I Don't Think For One Instance Women Get Pregnant Just So They Can Get Their Kicks By Killing A Fetus, But That's How You Come Across So Don't Judge These Poeple. You Don't Have The Right, Particularly At A Naive 16 Year Old.
BTW Dylan Just Gave You The Best Advice Of Your Life.
its not like english is my first language.... i rather want to see you making legible sentences on spanish and english.... my knowledge about abortion comes from Bible, parents, school, tv, books, internet and all of these tell me that... the fetus is alive that means it has life ...that later will become a human being...if the women cant freaking keep its legs closed, she must accept the consequences..and have that baby
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I Apologize On The English. Sorry Didn't Realize.
You Are Judging Again? How Can You Be So Mean To Women Like That. That's Very Unchristian Of You And You Have No Right To Judge Poeple For That.
The Bible, School, My Parents And The Internet Tell Me That Fish Plants And Animals Are Life Too, So Why Don't You Protest Restaurants?
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I Apologize On The English. Sorry Didn't Realize.
You Are Judging Again? How Can You Be So Mean To Women Like That. That's Very Unchristian Of You And You Have No Right To Judge Poeple For That.
The Bible, School, My Parents And The Internet Tell Me That Fish Plants And Animals Are Life Too, So Why Don't You Protest Restaurants?
judging who? im telling that is a woman can't be a week without having sex with everyone she must accept consequences on her acts....and yes, fish and animal have life to, but God gave authority on man on all living creatures on earth, and he gave us animals for food...
For the love of GOD! I ACTUALLY completely and totally agree with you on something! Excelleant point, and well written!
Well, that is excelleant!
Could it be true, we actually agree? Well, thanks for the kudos.
Oh, and Jonatan, seriously, that is a really inbalalnced opinion. Remember, "I think" excellent advice from Dylan. You cannot honestly believe that all animals are fair game... oh, that's right, humans have always been humans, and everyone else is just here to serve us and our little fantasies. Ho hum, go and join the extinctionists!
its not like english is my first language.... i rather want to see you making legible sentences on spanish and english...if the women cant freaking keep its legs closed, she must accept the consequences..and have that baby
Interesting view you have about women, reminds me of muslim fanatics in Saudi Arabia, where female rape victims are stoned to death on the ground that they simply must have done something wrong, else they wouldn´t have been raped.
As for the first part of your sentence, I do try. Honestly. However, I find your assessment ludicrous, if not even derisory, or even better yet, preposterous. Not everybody here on this forum is fluent in English, and Spanish, since this is, as you may have recognized, an international forum with participants from all sorts of lingual backgrounds.
Then again, tolerance is not exactly your strong side, so why expect it from you at all.
my bad....what i ment in that sentence is that all the promiscuous woman that are pregnant and dont want their babies have to accept their conscecuences... not raped women...
my bad....what i ment in that sentence is that all the promiscuous woman that are pregnant and dont want their babies have to accept their conscecuences... not raped women...
So you deny women the right to live out their sexuality, without even mentioning contraception and Knaus-Ogino-Tables. What about men? Are men allowed to be promiscuous?
Hint: this is a trick question.
Edit: what about women in a relationship who become pregnant, but would risk their own life if they delivered the baby? Make the woman die, so the baby will live? Or vice versa? Or, kill both?
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So you deny women the right to live out their sexuality, without even mentioning contraception and Knaus-Ogino-Tables. What about men? Are men allowed to be promiscuous?
Hint: this is a trick question.
Edit: what about women in a relationship who become pregnant, but would risk their own life if they delivered the baby? Make the woman die, so the baby will live? Or vice versa? Or, kill both?
no, i said it up ...if the mothers life is in danger they can abort...
im not denying women the right too live out their sexuality, if the woman is promiscuous she must live with the risks and accept the conscecuences...
no, i said it up ...if the mothers life is in danger they can abort...
im not denying women the right too live out their sexuality, if the woman is promiscuous she must live with the risks and accept the conscecuences...
You avoided my question: what consequenses should promiscuous men accept? What risks do they take from fathering a child?
As the bible, your parents and your books may have mentioned, it takes two to conceive a child - a woman, who, according to you, "promiscuously spreads her legs", and a man who falls for that and has sex with her. And if, again according to you, the woman in question is promiscuous, so is the man.
Of course, if your views are based on machismo devoid of womens´ rights, the only risk the father takes is having to buy his amigos some cerveza...
Ahhhh, so true!
ROFLMFAO!!!!!
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