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Old 12-24-2011, 03:19 PM   #1
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Default Mind the sleigh! Planes given permission to fly over north pole!

well guys, it seems that airlines with 777 planes have been given permission to fly over the north pole. slashing journey times by up to HALF! and of course, the subsequent saving on fuel and emissions!

Mind the sleigh! Airlines given permission to fly over North Pole for the first time slashing the hours to exotic destinations | Mail Online
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Old 12-24-2011, 03:25 PM   #2
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I read about this today Jon i was going to bring this point up, I always wondered why planes didnt take the most direct route, This will bring new opportunitys to airlines and make some great direct destinations.

With the saveing in fuel will we see ticket prices cut?
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Old 12-24-2011, 03:28 PM   #3
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I read about this today Jon i was going to bring this point up, I always wondered why planes didnt take the most direct route, This will bring new opportunitys to airlines and make some great direct destinations.

With the saving in fuel will we see ticket prices cut?
well, it SHOULD do!!! but we will see. atm it will only benefit airlines with t7 aircraft.
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Old 12-24-2011, 03:32 PM   #4
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the daily mail, as it does on almost all topics, lacks the staff to write even half-way competently about this. the headline makes it sound like nobody has any polar routes at the moment, which is of course idiotic.

here's the Boeing press release:
Boeing to Offer up to 330-Minute ETOPS on 777 - Dec 12, 2011
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Old 12-24-2011, 03:39 PM   #5
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atm it will only benefit airlines with t7 aircraft.
these limits were never an issue for A340, B747, etc.
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Old 12-24-2011, 06:54 PM   #6
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Yeah I knew about this for a bit, awesome news for certain airlines.
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Old 12-25-2011, 10:36 PM   #7
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Flown the ORD-PVG many times on the 747 and 777, and I am pretty sure we've always flown the polar route.
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the daily mail, as it does on almost all topics, lacks the staff to write even half-way competently about this. the headline makes it sound like nobody has any polar routes at the moment, which is of course idiotic.

here's the Boeing press release:
Boeing to Offer up to 330-Minute ETOPS on 777 - Dec 12, 2011
The mail is a tabloid and presumably will be into "sensationalism". Accuracy is never a priority
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well, it SHOULD do!!! but we will see. atm it will only benefit airlines with t7 aircraft.
And 787's as well!!
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It sounds like a good idea, but.... I remember reading a chapter out of a book written by an AC Pilot that flew their old A340s on YYZ-HKG. He said that even when flying close to the polar regions, pilots have to check ahead of time, because the amount of solar radiation at such a high latitude and altitude can be a hazard to passengers and crew. I believe that's what he was talking about, hopefully this was factored in when the decision was made.
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Yeah OP I'm almost certain that the solar radiation would be taken into consideration at the time of their decision.
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