Model Airports Thread

[..airman]

Hi Guys,

I don't know about anybody else on here but I'm starting to think that it's time somebody reigned in the Model Airports section of this forum. A recent new post...regarding a 'Newbie' wanting to build a 1/150 airport illustrates well the issues I have with this. They are as follows:

1) The priority of many on the forum appears to be as negative towards other users as they possibly can. For example, people post to say they are interested in starting a model airport, and almost immediately other members start with the 'I'll believe it when I see it' and then just get more negative.
2) There is repeated bad language and abusive, derogatory comments. For example, the common insunuation by some members that others are gay, or 'fags' is pointless and childish. It is the start of a slippery slope!
3) The bad language continues with repeated '*'s replacing insulting and in many cases offensive words.

Now, in my view the forum should be a place for swapping pics, and offering advise on building such models. It is true that there are many young users, but these people should not necessarily be degraded for their age, lets face it, many young people over the years have created great model railways etc, so why can they not possibly impose this skill on model airports, some older memebers feel this simply cannot be possible.

I think that the guys who run this forum have potentially set up something great, but they need to clamp down on, and if need be ban temporarily or permenantly those who cannot hold their insulting and abusive comments.

By cleaning this up now we may start to see more people posting in this section.

[AmericaWestAirlines]

Finally there's someone who agrees me! I am getting really irritated with some of the members, mostly younger ones, who post sixty-two times in the same thread insulting others for no reason at all. Almost every thread in the Model Airport forum is turned into a negative one because of certain users, who we all know, that have to make some rude remarks.

Or when someone does post airport pictures, someone has to find something to complain about it. Like when I posted pictures of my latest airport, Epit Int'l, the first comment was, "There's no windows."

I am starting to think there is no point to view these forums. There are rarely and photos of airports in the Model Airport forum now. And I could easily find out Gemini's new releases by going to their site, so I really have to motive to come here anymore with all this negativity going on. I really like the fact that their are some younger members here, as I am one of the, but when most of them have nothing nice to say or when they post 600 posts in two months, I am get a little annoyed with them.

So to wrap up my longest post of the day I'd like to say I agree with what you have to say and I hope something is done, soon.

[LOT 737-300]

Well, there are ups and downs, after all, even though I don't like being flamed (who does? Really!) This place can get a bit hostile. Of course, everything seems to have a chain reaction. One so called "senior member" tells the members why he hates the new people and harrasses them at every moment. Then they make a example of it.The new people try to be good. Then after that, a new member comes on and uses the type of language described in the "senior member's" post. This "NooB" as he is called quickly offends the other new people, thus getting people into the urge to flame him for his poor choice of words. And that is how a flame war on DA.C basically starts when it involves a new person with a poor vocabulary and grammar skills.

Now the flame wars involving childish insults, such as "your a F?ckfaced moron", and "your still in Middle school." Those are getting a bit old, and just quite a waste of bandwith, usually when someone started a flame war, I just hit the "report bad post" button, but after I noticed very little action was taken, I just lost hope in that little button. Anyways, if it involves my airport, I just post it on Wings. I belive that thread about the 1:150 airport was starting to take a diffrent turn, I started to give him advice and asked what he would use. I even PMed him to chat with me if he wanted to. Sometimes people have to grow up I guess, and those who act immaturely, unless I feel it is really necessary, I try my best to stay out of them, and let those people have their 1st amendment rights. Even, if I don't agree with it.

[Rammstein]

I agree with you all, especially you AWA!

I understand that a lot of people are getting sick and tired of the likes of me argueing in the model airports section of the forum, bitching at the likes of anime', jetsetter, Carlos Perea and FlyNavy. If i can i tend to stay out of these flame wars,but i often get in the fights trying to support someone.

Some members say they don't care about these airport plans but in the forum rules it does not mention that you can't post them and this is why i support the members.

I hope you understand what i'm trying to say.

Apologies to all on the forum, except the idiotic four!

[..airman]

OK, I give up...even this thread is starting down the same path troden so often in the 'Model Airports' forum. I wasn't looking for excuses. There simply is no need!

[Rammstein]

Originally Posted by ..airman

OK, I give up...even this thread is starting down the same path troden so often in the 'Model Airports' forum. I wasn't looking for excuses. There simply is no need!

Don't have a go at me about it. If we didn't have those pillocks picking at somebody over something so damn stupid, i wouldn't be involved and there wouldn't be these continual flame wars.

[dylan]

Your all a bunch of spineless pu ssies in my book! Grow some balls and learn to use the "ignore" function.

If you cant take someone hurling an insult at you over the web....your gonna have a rough life.

The model airports section used to be about people who built model airports. Thats fast becoming a thing of the past. The forum is constantly flooded with fantasy bullcrap, i.e. Fantasy airports, fantasy flights, etc...Ive spanked this monkey many times before in the Model Airports forum.

I put my money where my mouth is. I have posted many pics of the multiple airports I have done over the last few years.

If someone has a legitimate question on building, etc.. they will get a legitimate answer. Anyone who ends a post with: "and get this, Im only 16!!" Deserves a good old fashioned internet butt kickin'.

Until I get banned, you little tykes are gonna have to either learn to put up with me and those like me, or use that simple little IGNORE button.

Toodles

[Battery_H]

Dylan - I agree that you have put up pictures of some Grade A work. I have a nagging suspicion, however, that some of the inDUHviduals who participate in the flame wars are simply trying to inflate their post count or find some impish delight in getting otherwise intelligent people all torqued up.

What gets me, rather, is that each time someone asks a question that was asked by someone else, the only response is "use the Search button." If the question hasn't been asked in the last couple of months, or on the first couple of pages, why not either ignore it, or give some good advice. Perhaps we should have a "Tips & Tricks" page, where generally accepted ideas can be posted for the benefit of all. And, after all, we know that no one has come up with a new idea in modeling in the past decade, right?? > Go ahead, flame away.

[LOT 737-300]

Originally Posted by dylan

The model airports section used to be about people who built model airports. Thats fast becoming a thing of the past. The forum is constantly flooded with fantasy bullcrap, i.e. Fantasy airports, fantasy flights, etc...Ive spanked this monkey many times before in the Model Airports forum.

If someone has a legitimate question on building, etc.. they will get a legitimate answer. Anyone who ends a post with: "and get this, Im only 16!!" Deserves a good old fashioned internet butt kickin'.

OK Some of this "fantasy bullcrap" on the forum is a bit of a waste space, such as scehdualing Fantasy Flights. This can be done if the people actually have the intellegence of actually using the chat feature or something such as AIM to do that. Its tons better than waiting 6 hours to find out weather or not that a person wants to do a flights.

Fantasy Airports: This one I do not agree with you, some of these fantasy airports are real good, and nowhere did I read they had to be based off a real airport. But if you mean a pure 100% herport (that means that they are both 100% buildings and foils from herpa) then I agree, nice to see that there have been people finding good ways to display their collection, but when 75% of them look like the same, then there is a fine line.

Other such things that tick me off, people who want to join a airport alliance by posting a thread about it. Insted of PMing or emailing someone who is a member they have to make a thread about it and make it into a 1:500 or 1:400 scale model of WWII. People who make Airport alliances, then hide them under fancy names, such as a "holding company" because they are pu ssies who are afraid of the truth that they made a airport alliance. There are other things, but I won't get any farther into that.

And the last thing that annoys me. These people who call themselves "senior members" but do nothing but b1+ch about how much they hate some of the people's ideas and have such ideas as: 1) No airport shall include a herpa building, 2) Same, but with Legos (intersting point here, I've seen some of the earlier stuff in the archives, before some of these "senior" members joined, there were herports and legoports, and very few people had a problem with it, there was even a contest if I recall correctly. 3) If it dosn't agree with you, it is still in Middle school. 4) If it argues with you, change the subject repeaditly (I didn't fall for that BS when some of these seniors tried it on me.)

If someone has a legitimate question on building, etc.. they will get a legitimate answer. Anyone who ends a post with: "and get this, Im only 16!!" Deserves a good old fashioned internet butt kickin'.

Why, I think we found the part where I actually agree with with you the whole time! Who cares how old you are really! Age dosn't matter to me, I've seen works from everybody. When I saw that part of the post, I just couldn't resist putting down the "cookie" joke. But then he started to get more descriptive in what he wanted. So I just gave him a few comments that I have learned.

Of course, I'll just have all those people have their way. Afterall, they are behind at least few hundred miles of wires protecting them, as well as the monitor. Most of these people who flame each other are just normal folks, with lives, even if it just going to school, and hanging out on the net afterwords. Heck, I bet ya that the ones that makes alot trouble here, can actually be just someone who can't fend for themselves in reality.

Originally Posted by Battery_H

Dylan - I agree that you have put up pictures of some Grade A work. I have a nagging suspicion, however, that some of the inDUHviduals who participate in the flame wars are simply trying to inflate their post count or find some impish delight in getting in getting otherwise intelligent people all torqued up.

I have to agree, sometimes the only posts we see from some members are negative posts. This is coming from all sides, from new people who are improving on their skills, to some 16 year old kid that made a real good layout like 2 years ago and it got featured on some well known product, thus giving them the assumption that they are god and nothing can stop them, but the catch was they havn't made nothing good (or anything) since. But then again, I just say, give them the right to fight, if they really feel its really needed to push down and prove their ideas to someone, then just let them.

None of this is really meant to offend, if I have gotten you upset, then I appologize, just showing my view on what I think.
Also, sorry for making this post very long.