Which would you choose - Cubana or Aeroflot Tu-154M

B-16707 · 01-23-2008, 02:42 PM

im having a hard time deciding what to finalize my custom 1:200 tu-154m model as. would you guys choose one over the other?

Cubana in latest colors

or Aeroflot in old colors

im personally leaning towards the cubana because ive seen too much of aeroflot as they seem to be more popular. (plus its easier not to have to paint the gray underbelly, haha ill be honest!)

D-AIHC · 01-23-2008, 03:06 PM

Go with the Aeroflot but with the Soviet flag (with registration starting with CCCP-*****) instead of the Russian flag.

ccs757 · 01-23-2008, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by B-16707

im having a hard time deciding what to finalize my custom 1:200 tu-154m model as. would you guys choose one over the other?

Cubana in latest colors

or Aeroflot in old colors

im personally leaning towards the cubana because ive seen too much of aeroflot as they seem to be more popular. (plus its easier not to have to paint the gray underbelly, haha ill be honest!)

The cubana!!!!!

saludos

RT404 · 01-24-2008, 06:53 AM

I prefer Aeroflot~ Old Aeroflot livery + Tu-154 is a true classic to me!!!

rafa28_alq · 01-24-2008, 07:50 AM

Cubana!!!!!!!!

Santos · 01-24-2008, 09:23 AM

Cubana !!!

Rex · 01-24-2008, 11:01 AM

You can't go wrong with Cubana, compared to the old flot scheme, it is more "exotic". Love the big Cubana fonts.

B-16707 · 01-24-2008, 12:01 PM

cubanan is WINNING so far!

L-1011-Heavy · 01-24-2008, 01:34 PM

The Lot!

taavime · 01-24-2008, 03:36 PM

Cubana!!
Aeroflot is way too common!

B-16707 · 01-24-2008, 04:30 PM

Cubana by more than half now!

LOT 737-300 · 01-24-2008, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by L-1011-Heavy

The Lot!

I'm with you there Heavy, pretty much anything will look good in that post 1977 livery, even my car (Hope you were referring to PLL LOT).

If I had to choose (it won't let me vote, note that the DA.C system has a serious problem that won't allow some members to vote for some reason), I'd probebly say the Soviet "CCCP" colors than the RA flag colors. But if you want to do the RA version more, then I'd say the Cubana.

B-16707 · 01-24-2008, 05:45 PM

i didnt even know there was a soviet colors aeroflot until daihc mentioned it. so i guess if i do the aeroflot it would be that. albeit fantasy. did they operate -M series back then? seems like they are all the -Bs. if in case they only operated the -Bs back then then i will do it on another build as im trying to scrounge for more of these rare kits

RT404 · 01-24-2008, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by B-16707

i didnt even know there was a soviet colors aeroflot until daihc mentioned it. so i guess if i do the aeroflot it would be that. albeit fantasy. did they operate -M series back then? seems like they are all the -Bs. if in case they only operated the -Bs back then then i will do it on another build as im trying to scrounge for more of these rare kits

Hey Kai, they did operate Tu-154M in that livery~

I guess you will go for the cubana first, so good luck!!

B-16707 · 01-24-2008, 06:27 PM

oh dang it. decisions decisions. it would be harder for me to get decals for the soviet colors....but it looks nice nevertheless!!!

D-AIHC · 01-24-2008, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by B-16707

oh dang it. decisions decisions. it would be harder for me to get decals for the soviet colors....but it looks nice nevertheless!!!

If you were to go with the Russian flag, then I'd suggest you go with Cubana...but the one with Soviet flag is truly something different - a classic!

QFA388 · 01-24-2008, 11:43 PM

I have the Cubana 154 from Tucano and it is definately one of the faves of my collection. Sits nicely with my GJ 162M and all I need now is an Il-86 and 96.
Oh yeah, and maybe the F-27.

Phantom · 01-25-2008, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by B-16707

i didnt even know there was a soviet colors aeroflot until daihc mentioned it. so i guess if i do the aeroflot it would be that. albeit fantasy. did they operate -M series back then? seems like they are all the -Bs. if in case they only operated the -Bs back then then i will do it on another build as im trying to scrounge for more of these rare kits

The series 154M was built from 1984 (prototype back in the 70's already) and it also caried exactly the scheme d-aihc posted - sans Olympic stickers. He just picked the wrong version (B2 instead of M)
I'm sure there are pics of M's in these colors if you do a search. Particularily (but not necessarily) reg. in the lower 600's (CCCP-856..)

Ciuffi · 01-25-2008, 07:50 AM

Aeroflot but new livery!

D-AIHC · 01-25-2008, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by B-16707

did they operate -M series back then? seems like they are all the -Bs. if in case they only operated the -Bs back then then i will do it on another build as im trying to scrounge for more of these rare kits

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Originally Posted by Phantom

The series 154M was built from 1984 (prototype back in the 70's already) and it also caried exactly the scheme d-aihc posted - sans Olympic stickers. He just picked the wrong version (B2 instead of M)

Sorry, my bad for picking the wrong version!

Yes, for the record, I'd suggest the Aeroflot OC with the Soviet flag for your Tu-154M.

Phantom, I'm sorry but I'm not a Russian aircraft expert but how many different versions of the Tu-154 are there? What's the difference between them? Thanks!

B-16707 · 01-25-2008, 12:45 PM

i think the major ones are the -B and -M, you can tell by the 2nd engine tail cone on the back. as well as wider chord on main wing and tail planes, larger engines with #2 hole being larger i think. -M has interesting looking "raked" winglets too. all this i learned just modding my -B kit to a -M kit haha
check out the butts on these two

im still trying to secure a couple more of these rare russian made kits. ill probably go with the cubana on this -M variant i made (it was downright hard to mod the kit to make it LOOK like a -M) and if i get a hold of other kits ill make them -Bs in Tupolev corporate colors and Aeroflot soviet colors.

cubana has an overwhelming lead!

http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...reply&p=557909

haha only possible with custom decals! but that means ill need to mod another -M which i wont ever do again haha since its so hard

Rex · 01-25-2008, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by D-AIHC

but how many different versions of the Tu-154 are there? What's the difference between them? Thanks!

There's some rather interesting stuff about that for you at this link. Including Tu-155 / Tu-156 prototype versions.

Hints: Two prototypes based on this aircraft are the hydrogen- or natural gas-powered.

Scroll down to "Variants"Tupolev Tu-154 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hope you find it useful.

B-16707 · 01-25-2008, 01:57 PM

OR maybe i can mod my proposed tupolev corporate colors -B version into the tu-155 model! thanks for the reminder crex!

Rex · 01-25-2008, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by B-16707

OR maybe i can mod my proposed tupolev corporate colors -B version into the tu-155 model! thanks for the reminder crex!

Uhm okey, I've found two photos for you here.

I don't recognize what the little thing poiting upwards on top of the tail fin though. Maybe test-related.
TU-155

Hey, Don't forget, CUBANA !

B-16707 · 01-25-2008, 02:09 PM

yea now we need the portside pictures haha. are there pipes on the other side?

Rex · 01-25-2008, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by B-16707

yea now we need the portside pictures haha. are there pipes on the other side?

Check out the pipes on the rear aft before the engines.

Click on the thumbnail for larger resolution.

MyAviation.net - Aviation Photo Gallery

Small but the port side

D-AIHC · 01-25-2008, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by B-16707

check out the butts on these two

Judging from those two pics, looks like the thrust reversers on engine no. 1 are slightly different too.

B-16707 · 01-25-2008, 03:48 PM

oh yea those are too. i didnt model that on my custom -M. oh well

Phantom · 01-26-2008, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by D-AIHC

Judging from those two pics, looks like the thrust reversers on engine no. 1 are slightly different too.

I've posted in detail how to vissually tell a 154M from a 154B2 (etc.) but cannot find it with the search function.

In short and out of my head:
The 154/154A/B/B2 all used Kuznetsov NK8 powerplants with clamshell-type reversers on engines #1+3 (no reversers on #2)
APU exhaust located right above #2 exhaust.
Differences between these versions mostly were internal, just the earliest 154s had noticable differences on tail.

The M was
-heavily modified with an improved cockpit (crew down to 3)
-has a modified wing with different LE-slats and different flaps.
-has an all new designed tail with the APU exhaust relocated on fuselage starboard side (somewhere above engine 3 IIRC)
-Soloviev D30 engines with bucket-type reversers (again no reverser on #2)

The posted Wiki-link also could help, though I wouldn't trust Wiki too much.

B-16707 · 01-26-2008, 12:55 PM

really you dont trust wiki? some say it has a high accuracy rating than the Britannia Encyclopedia!

Phantom · 01-26-2008, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by B-16707

really you dont trust wiki? some say it has a high accuracy rating than the Britannia Encyclopedia!

I didn't say that I don't trust Wiki. I said I don't trust too much. The info there appears to be accurate most of the time, but there are also examples where parts of the info is incorrect or unprecise. Take wrong engine data for the A300B2/B4 on the German Wiki just to name one. I stumbled accross other things as well.
Still Wiki is one of the greates and most useful things on modern internet.

Ferihegy · 01-28-2008, 01:22 AM

Both are nice but the Cubana is a little bit more exotic!

D-AIHC · 01-28-2008, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Phantom

I didn't say that I don't trust Wiki. I said I don't trust too much.

I truly agree with you on that...I trust Wiki but not 100%!!! Always good to check with another source or two to confirm.

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SDF · 03-20-2008, 12:24 AM

I am for the Cubana. I'd love to see more Cubana models, especially the classics, like SZuper Connie, and the Viscount 700, not to mention the Britania.