R/C Airliners ... anyone doing it?

MarinerOne · 07-13-2007, 02:43 AM

I stumbled across this site moments ago, and I was mesmerized by the quality of flying reproductions these guys have created in 1/16th scale.

Check out this site, especially the top eight (8) photos of the MD-11 section featuring the KLM model flying ... it's unbelievable!!!

I'm rather surprised they don't have a flying 747 model though ... seems odd ... but otherwise, it's amazing stuff!

LOT 737-300 · 07-13-2007, 10:30 AM

Wow, that thing is huge. If they produced 8, then storage must be no issue for them. I wonder if it needs its own registration because of it's size.

B-16707 · 07-13-2007, 12:07 PM

there was this german guy who built gigantic radio control planes, 747 and concorde, a380 included. i forgot what the web addy was. it was posted here before

D-AIHC · 07-13-2007, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kaitanium

there was this german guy who built gigantic radio control planes, 747 and concorde, a380 included.

And the video showed the A380 taxiing, taking-off and landing too! Either the model is pretty light or it has really powerful turbines.

B-16707 · 07-13-2007, 12:33 PM

couple R/C vids to tickle peoples fancies

that concorde flyby is friggin savage

D-AIHC · 07-13-2007, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaitanium

that concorde flyby is friggin savage

Cool video! Thanks! I'm amazed to see the two chase aircraft too!

MarinerOne · 07-13-2007, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaitanium

couple R/C vids to tickle peoples fancies - that concorde flyby is friggin savage

Thanks for sharing! The Concorde model looks almost like the real thing, especially with the chase planes to boot ... the landing was perfect ... looked even better on a real runway as opposed to grass as in the other two videos. I'm getting inspired watching these to learn how to build/fly large scale airliners now ... anyone wanna team up on a Dreamliner model?

QUESTION: Does anyone here know how to fly R/C models at all?

If YOU were a passenger on this plane ...

... it would be known as "The Flight from HELL"!!!

jasonsw · 07-13-2007, 05:13 PM

holy crap! now this is a cool hobby!

i wonder how much it takes to buy/build such a machine!!! also, how much fuel(?) does it consume and how much flight time?

the reason i ask is, once i saw this R/C helicopter on late night tv commercial that only had 5 mins of flight time per charge...

is this legal in U.S.? i mean, this is a missile with wheels! holy cow!!! super fast!!!

STEVEJ · 07-13-2007, 09:52 PM

In 1995 I scratch built an RC B-17. I never tallied up the final cost but just to give you some idea, (this is 1995 pricing) $125.00 of balsa and light plywood, 4 OS MAX 4 stroke engines @ $150.00 each, Futaba six channel radio $300, extra servos $100.00, Robart retracts $99.00. I don't know how you would put a price on the three years it took to build it. Lots of glue, resin and fibergass to build and finish, a couple of hundred more. I got 15 flights on the model before I lost an outboard engine on takeoff and the airplane spun in and was a complete loss. No regrets, as anyone in the hobby will tell you, 15 flights on a multi-engine model is considered very good. I beleive this model had a 51 inch wing span. The model had four 6 oz fuel tanks and the average flight was 15 min, on full tanks all four engines ran close to 30 min. The models are legal although you have to join a club to get the AMA insurance to cover your *** in case your model crashes into someones house or car or God forbid another person.

I currently have a work in progress DC-3 that I am scratch building from Model Airplane News plans using engines and other hardware salvaged from the B-17 wreckage.The basic airframe and wings have been completed and retractable gear installed buts lots of work to be done yet.

The MD-11 posted here I would imagine is mostly styrofoam covered with balsa and glassed, a really beautiful job and I bet very very expensive.

I spoke once with the owner of Vali Aviation, a model co that produces 1/4 scale plans and semi-kits for mostly WW2 fighters. He said that to design, build and fly a proto-type 1/4 scale model( in this case a FW-190) requires an investment of approx $9,000.00. The production release could cost a customer anywhere from $1200 to $3000 to complete depending on how many "add ons" you want to invest in.

I have video of the B-17 flying but being a complete computer dummy I would have no idea how I would post it here.

B-16707 · 07-13-2007, 10:19 PM

upload that video to youtube! simple as signing up and selecting the file to upload

fazeman · 07-13-2007, 10:24 PM

Love all the pics and videos!

There is a six foot long commercial aircraft that I wanted to buy at a local hobby shop. The fuselage is styrofoam but looks great. When I asked about it, the man told me that they are not forgiving aircraft to fly. When I told him I was a beginner, he showed me the type of plane I should start as per the attached picture.

fazeman · 07-13-2007, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by STEVEJ

In 1995 I scratch built an RC B-17. I never tallied up the final cost but just to give you some idea, (this is 1995 pricing) $125.00 of balsa and light plywood, 4 OS MAX 4 stroke engines @ $150.00 each, Futaba six channel radio $300, extra servos $100.00, Robart retracts $99.00. I don't know how you would put a price on the three years it took to build it. Lots of glue, resin and fibergass to build and finish, a couple of hundred more. I got 15 flights on the model before I lost an outboard engine on takeoff and the airplane spun in and was a complete loss. No regrets, as anyone in the hobby will tell you, 15 flights on a multi-engine model is considered very good. I beleive this model had a 51 inch wing span. The model had four 6 oz fuel tanks and the average flight was 15 min, on full tanks all four engines ran close to 30 min. The models are legal although you have to join a club to get the AMA insurance to cover your *** in case your model crashes into someones house or car or God forbid another person.
I currently have a work in progress DC-3 that I am scratch building from Model Airplane News plans using engines and other hardware salvaged from the B-17 wreckage.The basic airframe and wings have been completed and retractable gear installed buts lots of work to be done yet.
The MD-11 posted here I would imagine is mostly styrofoam covered with balsa and glassed, a really beautiful job and I bet very very expensive.
I spoke once with the owner of Vali Aviation, a model co that produces 1/4 scale plans and semi-kits for mostly WW2 fighters. He said that to design, build and fly a proto-type 1/4 scale model( in this case a FW-190) requires an investment of approx $9,000.00. The production release could cost a customer anywhere from $1200 to $3000 to complete depending on how many "add ons" you want to invest in.
I have video of the B-17 flying but being a complete computer dummy I would have no idea how I would post it here.

STEVEJ,

When I read your experience with the B-17, it confirmed to me that these planes are delicate, unforgiving and very pricey. If I do get into RC, the plane of choice will be something along the lines of the above pictured beginner aircraft.

gospodin · 07-13-2007, 10:51 PM

There was a great video of a massive B-52, with all eight engines functional, looked like 1/12 or possibly even 1/8 scale...it was friggin' HUGE! It was in England, and the poor sot who owned it banked it too steep and it took a dirt dive. That was probably a suicidal moment for that guy.

Diecaster · 07-13-2007, 11:56 PM

I saw someone with an R/C 777 took off at Kai Tak Airport in Hong Kong

YouTube - Boeing 777

MarinerOne · 07-14-2007, 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fazeman

Love all the pics and videos!
There is a six foot long commercial aircraft that I wanted to buy at a local hobby shop. The fuselage is styrofoam but looks great. When I asked about it, the man told me that they are not forgiving aircraft to fly. When I told him I was a beginner, he showed me the type of plane I should start as per the attached picture.

ROFLMAO!!!

Check out this video ... it's a crackup ... what do you think the G-force is on this takeoff? If there were passengers on board, they would have all passed out!!!

MarinerOne · 07-14-2007, 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gospodin

There was a great video of a massive B-52, with all eight engines functional, looked like 1/12 or possibly even 1/8 scale...it was friggin' HUGE! It was in England, and the poor sot who owned it banked it too steep and it took a dirt dive. That was probably a suicidal moment for that guy.

Wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww ...

Alex, hi · 07-14-2007, 03:33 AM

WOW!
That amazing beast is so awesome.

D-AIHC · 07-14-2007, 11:23 AM

Thanks, M1! That's a awesome video of the B-52 - love the sound of the turbines. Did anyone notice that when it landed, the mini landing gear under the starboard wing was missing? Must have broken off during the touchdonwn.

Kozmania · 07-14-2007, 12:29 PM

A few more to check out...

A340's
Air France
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1krpoZuJ1...elated&search=

House colors
http://youtube.com/watch?v=l8oQQ22Re...elated&search=

Star Alliance
YouTube - Airbus A-340

Kozmania · 07-14-2007, 12:32 PM

Braniff 727
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y7JjWEJH2...elated&search=

and America West's 747
YouTube - America West 747

N. Eberhard · 07-14-2007, 12:58 PM

If you are using the new generation motors and building a large airliner I would figure the end cost to be low 5 figures. Too rich for my blood but I would LOVE to see that MD-11 or any other large airliner model flying around.

gospodin · 07-14-2007, 03:15 PM

The B-52 has got to be my favorite...it sucked that it was destroyed. At @ $1500 for a jet turbine, he was out a considerable amount...it had retractable gears, and even nav lights. There's another awesome vid on a beautiful model of an A380, but I don't know where to access it.

fazeman · 07-14-2007, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarinerOne

ROFLMAO!!!

Check out this video ... it's a crackup ... what do you think the G-force is on this takeoff? If there were passengers on board, they would have all passed out!!!

His supersonic NASA-like take off and erratic rolling-like landing approach had me keeling over.

Poor pax onboard were rolling in their vomit.

07-13-2007, 02:43 AM	#1
MarinerOne Insane Collector Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: SAN Age: 39 Posts: 1,187	R/C Airliners ... anyone doing it? I stumbled across this site moments ago, and I was mesmerized by the quality of flying reproductions these guys have created in 1/16th scale. Check out this site, especially the top eight (8) photos of the MD-11 section featuring the KLM model flying ... it's unbelievable!!! I'm rather surprised they don't have a flying 747 model though ... seems odd ... but otherwise, it's amazing stuff!

07-13-2007, 10:30 AM	#2
LOT 737-300 ЛЭТ Су-37 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Somewhere near MCO. Age: 20 Posts: 1,226	Re: R/C Airliners ... anyone doing it? Wow, that thing is huge. If they produced 8, then storage must be no issue for them. I wonder if it needs its own registration because of it's size. __________________ My airport: Nowa Warszawa Int'l NWL http://www.freewebs.com/nwlairport PM me if you want Fantasy Flights. If you are interested in Joining BSA, please drop by our forum and make a post. http://s14.invisionfree.com/Bluesphe...ex.php?act=idx

07-13-2007, 12:07 PM	#3
B-16707 i need more space Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 6,429	Re: R/C Airliners ... anyone doing it? there was this german guy who built gigantic radio control planes, 747 and concorde, a380 included. i forgot what the web addy was. it was posted here before __________________ The Completed Customs The Airport 1:200 B773ER details decals have ARRIVED!!!!!! http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...tml#post601882

07-13-2007, 12:33 PM	#5
B-16707 i need more space Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 6,429	Re: R/C Airliners ... anyone doing it? couple R/C vids to tickle peoples fancies that concorde flyby is friggin savage __________________ The Completed Customs The Airport 1:200 B773ER details decals have ARRIVED!!!!!! http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...tml#post601882

07-13-2007, 05:13 PM	#8
jasonsw MAKE 7 UP YOURS Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Torrance, CA Age: 28 Posts: 1,134	Re: R/C Airliners ... anyone doing it? holy crap! now this is a cool hobby! i wonder how much it takes to buy/build such a machine!!! also, how much fuel(?) does it consume and how much flight time? the reason i ask is, once i saw this R/C helicopter on late night tv commercial that only had 5 mins of flight time per charge... is this legal in U.S.? i mean, this is a missile with wheels! holy cow!!! super fast!!! __________________ Jason S.W. Airport Diorama Under Construction List of My Collection View Jason's Fleet Newest Arrivals

07-13-2007, 09:52 PM	#9
STEVEJ Insane Collector Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Stony Brook, N.Y. Age: 99 Posts: 1,592	Re: R/C Airliners ... anyone doing it? In 1995 I scratch built an RC B-17. I never tallied up the final cost but just to give you some idea, (this is 1995 pricing) $125.00 of balsa and light plywood, 4 OS MAX 4 stroke engines @ $150.00 each, Futaba six channel radio $300, extra servos $100.00, Robart retracts $99.00. I don't know how you would put a price on the three years it took to build it. Lots of glue, resin and fibergass to build and finish, a couple of hundred more. I got 15 flights on the model before I lost an outboard engine on takeoff and the airplane spun in and was a complete loss. No regrets, as anyone in the hobby will tell you, 15 flights on a multi-engine model is considered very good. I beleive this model had a 51 inch wing span. The model had four 6 oz fuel tanks and the average flight was 15 min, on full tanks all four engines ran close to 30 min. The models are legal although you have to join a club to get the AMA insurance to cover your *** in case your model crashes into someones house or car or God forbid another person. I currently have a work in progress DC-3 that I am scratch building from Model Airplane News plans using engines and other hardware salvaged from the B-17 wreckage.The basic airframe and wings have been completed and retractable gear installed buts lots of work to be done yet. The MD-11 posted here I would imagine is mostly styrofoam covered with balsa and glassed, a really beautiful job and I bet very very expensive. I spoke once with the owner of Vali Aviation, a model co that produces 1/4 scale plans and semi-kits for mostly WW2 fighters. He said that to design, build and fly a proto-type 1/4 scale model( in this case a FW-190) requires an investment of approx $9,000.00. The production release could cost a customer anywhere from $1200 to $3000 to complete depending on how many "add ons" you want to invest in. I have video of the B-17 flying but being a complete computer dummy I would have no idea how I would post it here. Last edited by STEVEJ; 07-13-2007 at 10:02 PM.

07-13-2007, 10:19 PM	#10
B-16707 i need more space Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 6,429	Re: R/C Airliners ... anyone doing it? upload that video to youtube! simple as signing up and selecting the file to upload __________________ The Completed Customs The Airport 1:200 B773ER details decals have ARRIVED!!!!!! http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...tml#post601882

07-13-2007, 10:24 PM	#11
fazeman Setting The Pace Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Virginia Beach, Va. Age: 49 Posts: 1,984	Re: R/C Airliners ... anyone doing it? Love all the pics and videos! There is a six foot long commercial aircraft that I wanted to buy at a local hobby shop. The fuselage is styrofoam but looks great. When I asked about it, the man told me that they are not forgiving aircraft to fly. When I told him I was a beginner, he showed me the type of plane I should start as per the attached picture. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Steve

07-13-2007, 10:51 PM	#13
gospodin Diecast Blasphemer Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ceti Alpha V Age: 52 Posts: 3,205	Re: R/C Airliners ... anyone doing it? There was a great video of a massive B-52, with all eight engines functional, looked like 1/12 or possibly even 1/8 scale...it was friggin' HUGE! It was in England, and the poor sot who owned it banked it too steep and it took a dirt dive. That was probably a suicidal moment for that guy. __________________ Steve The one thing I've learned on this forum is "Don't argue with an idiot". Other people reading may not be able to tell the difference....

07-13-2007, 11:56 PM	#14
Diecaster Master Collector Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 585	Re: R/C Airliners ... anyone doing it? I saw someone with an R/C 777 took off at Kai Tak Airport in Hong Kong YouTube - Boeing 777

07-14-2007, 03:33 AM	#17
Alex, hi Senior Collector Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Launceston, TAS Age: 13 Posts: 220	Re: R/C Airliners ... anyone doing it? WOW! That amazing beast is so awesome. __________________ What ever happened to the Jetstar 717?

07-14-2007, 11:23 AM	#18
D-AIHC Essen Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 6,192	Thanks, M1! That's a awesome video of the B-52 - love the sound of the turbines. Did anyone notice that when it landed, the mini landing gear under the starboard wing was missing? Must have broken off during the touchdonwn. __________________ Lufthansa - Star Alliance member since 1997

07-14-2007, 12:29 PM	#19
Kozmania Retro "West Coaster" Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Chicago Age: 38 Posts: 398	Re: R/C Airliners ... anyone doing it? A few more to check out... A340's *Air France* http://youtube.com/watch?v=1krpoZuJ1...elated&search= *House colors* http://youtube.com/watch?v=l8oQQ22Re...elated&search= *Star Alliance* YouTube - Airbus A-340 Attached Thumbnails __________________ Switching to departure - Good day... Kozmania Aircraft at the "Casa de Koz" http://www.wings900.com/modeldatabas...ic.php?id=2871 Last edited by Kozmania; 07-14-2007 at 12:32 PM.

07-14-2007, 12:32 PM	#20
Kozmania Retro "West Coaster" Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Chicago Age: 38 Posts: 398	Re: R/C Airliners ... anyone doing it? *Braniff 727* http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y7JjWEJH2...elated&search= and *America West's 747* YouTube - America West 747 Attached Thumbnails __________________ Switching to departure - Good day... Kozmania Aircraft at the "Casa de Koz" http://www.wings900.com/modeldatabas...ic.php?id=2871

07-14-2007, 12:58 PM	#21
N. Eberhard Dr. Diecast I presume? Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Age: 44 Posts: 3,424	Re: R/C Airliners ... anyone doing it? If you are using the new generation motors and building a large airliner I would figure the end cost to be low 5 figures. Too rich for my blood but I would LOVE to see that MD-11 or any other large airliner model flying around.

07-14-2007, 03:15 PM	#22
gospodin Diecast Blasphemer Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ceti Alpha V Age: 52 Posts: 3,205	Re: R/C Airliners ... anyone doing it? The B-52 has got to be my favorite...it sucked that it was destroyed. At @ $1500 for a jet turbine, he was out a considerable amount...it had retractable gears, and even nav lights. There's another awesome vid on a beautiful model of an A380, but I don't know where to access it. __________________ Steve The one thing I've learned on this forum is "Don't argue with an idiot". Other people reading may not be able to tell the difference....