To fill or not to fill

Jboulin94 · 07-05-2007, 09:44 PM

I got my second Hasegawa 773 ANA, since my first one was a disaster. What do you guys think. Should I fill the holes or leave them open. which looks best? Also, If I fill it, should I use basic tamyia Putty, or just glue? thanks for the help!

Bill-ay · 07-05-2007, 09:46 PM

Hi John, I say Fill them with glue, like in the article...http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...g-prt-1-a.html

Registered user. · 07-05-2007, 09:54 PM

hi, i say fill. Bill-ay thread very good. look at that.

Ching Lee

Bill-ay · 07-05-2007, 09:59 PM

Thank you Ching!

B-16707 · 07-06-2007, 12:40 AM

fill those suckers

so how did the first one get screwed? i can always take the messed up parts off of your hands =) if you dont want them

Jboulin94 · 07-06-2007, 08:57 AM

Thanks guys. Kai, I don't even think you would want to have them. The only things that are "OK" are the verticle stabalizers. I'm still going keep it though, since I will have 2 ANA.

B-16707 · 07-06-2007, 02:32 PM

so how did it get screwed?

Bill-ay · 07-06-2007, 04:01 PM

Well it was probably because it was his first real model.

B-16707 · 07-06-2007, 04:32 PM

no i want to know how it got screwed like what parts and what step

Jboulin94 · 07-06-2007, 10:51 PM

Well, The fuselage, I rushed through. it didn't look that bad, but not the greatest. The decals were miserable. The windows were peeling, at least one door on either side came off, and still, after 2 weeks, if the stripes get like bumped or scratched, they peel. anyone wanna show me how they think is the easiest way of applying decals? That would be a HUGE help.

Bill-ay · 07-06-2007, 11:18 PM

Materiels needed: Small paint brush, cup-o-water, toothpick, setting solution(as seen in Modeling prt. 1), patience!

1. Cut the decal as liked out of the decal sheet.
2. Dip decal in water for 10 secs. Then put decal on paper towel and spread water on top of it. Wait 30 more secs.
3. Spread setting solution where decal is to be placed(instructions on back of the bottle of solution).
4. Gently slide the decal off of the backing with a small to medium paint brush. Once decal is on model, take toothpick and hold decal in place while you slide the rest of the decal with the brush on the model.
5. Adjust decal fast while it is still damp. Read solution instructions.
6. Enjoy the result!
Hope I could be of help.
Regards

koolcare · 07-07-2007, 01:23 AM

I have seen models that have been unfilled in s hops, they look amazing, the shop owner told me he used a trim down plastic tape to pae over the windows and then carefully blocked out the windows for painting, and then removed it.

But if you perfer a hogan type look, then block them out. But for him, that was the main reason why he didn't fill the windows as he said, if you have a filled window plane, then why not just buy a hogan model?

B-16707 · 07-07-2007, 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koolcare

if you have a filled window plane, then why not just buy a hogan model?

try and find an ANA hogan b773 for under $30 =).

B-16707 · 07-07-2007, 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jboulin94

Well, The fuselage, I rushed through. it didn't look that bad, but not the greatest. The decals were miserable. The windows were peeling, at least one door on either side came off, and still, after 2 weeks, if the stripes get like bumped or scratched, they peel. anyone wanna show me how they think is the easiest way of applying decals? That would be a HUGE help.

i have a feeling you like to rush through things. take it slowly. and by slowly i mean take 1 day to sand the fuselage joints down, take another to fill the gaps with putty, take another to do the landing gear, etc.

making a model is like enjoying your food. rushing through one will leave you with upchuck.

koolcare · 07-07-2007, 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaitanium

try and find an ANA hogan b773 for under $30 =). the more i make models the more i think buying premade is wussy and less satisfying.

Point taken, but I can understand where he is going though, picture this, you have a diaorama of the plane being boarded in an airport, and you seen blocked out windows, wouldn't you been slightly put off? So close for the set to look real yet failing in one point.

I know what you mean. It just doesn't fill your desire of detail, and the quality time you have spent on your model kit. You can't replace that with a ready made premade. Is that where you were trying to go at?

B-16707 · 07-07-2007, 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koolcare

I know what you mean. It just doesn't fill your desire of detail, and the quality time you have spent on your model kit. You can't replace that with a ready made premade. Is that where you were trying to go at?

a bit...but i was just referring to just the ANA 773 here. hogans version cost some $100+ to get it wheres you can build your own for cheaper.

yea i cover up my windows to match my hogans. but another point, this from selier's models from the cafe. he builds awesome models so im not bashing his stuff at all just using his pic as a case in point
when looking from an angle at the jet with unfilled windows, it looks rather awkward dont you think? when looking at a real jetliner from this angle you would at least see gray where the windows are. to get around this problem whether you fill the windows in with clear glue or whatever, you would need to individually and carefully paint the sides of the windows (or the thickness of the plastic body)= with a silver outline seen on hogans. another reason why i fill mine in and use the decals. almost looks like the ana 773 waves has no windows! to get around it one would need to paint the interior black too. i suppose that isnt hard, and ill try it on one build in the near future just to see how it goes.

just a pet peev =)

koolcare · 07-07-2007, 07:08 AM

Quote:

"you would need to individually and carefully paint the sides of the windows "

that is exactly what I would do, time consuimg? Hell yes! But it would turn out took look great. And then seal up the windows with plastic tape, mask, spray over and unmask.

But I see your point Kaitanium, these models without the paint on the side windows do look, off.

Jboulin94 · 07-07-2007, 09:36 AM

Yeah, i'm gonna sand today. its already looking better.

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07-05-2007, 09:44 PM	#1
Jboulin94 Wants an Aeroflot model! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,423	To fill or not to fill I got my second Hasegawa 773 ANA, since my first one was a disaster. What do you guys think. Should I fill the holes or leave them open. which looks best? Also, If I fill it, should I use basic tamyia Putty, or just glue? thanks for the help! __________________

07-05-2007, 09:46 PM	#2
Bill-ay Bill-ay the A320 FO Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Dallas Age: 14 Posts: 2,536	Re: To fill or not to fill Hi John, I say Fill them with glue, like in the article...http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...g-prt-1-a.html __________________ I all widebodied airbuses, except the bulbus A380 View my collection(if you really care, its only HE OG models). http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...tion-4996.html LONG LIVE THE DC-10/A300/A310/MD-80!!!

07-05-2007, 09:54 PM	#3
Registered user. china collector Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: HKG/PVG Posts: 42	Re: To fill or not to fill hi, i say fill. Bill-ay thread very good. look at that. Ching Lee __________________ china eastern.

07-05-2007, 09:59 PM	#4
Bill-ay Bill-ay the A320 FO Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Dallas Age: 14 Posts: 2,536	Re: To fill or not to fill Thank you Ching! __________________ I all widebodied airbuses, except the bulbus A380 View my collection(if you really care, its only HE OG models). http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...tion-4996.html LONG LIVE THE DC-10/A300/A310/MD-80!!!

07-06-2007, 12:40 AM	#5
B-16707 i need more space Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 6,292	Re: To fill or not to fill fill those suckers so how did the first one get screwed? i can always take the messed up parts off of your hands =) if you dont want them __________________ The Completed Customs The Airport want 1:200 B773ER details decals? for info check this out http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...tml#post601882

07-06-2007, 08:57 AM	#6
Jboulin94 Wants an Aeroflot model! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,423	Re: To fill or not to fill Thanks guys. Kai, I don't even think you would want to have them. The only things that are "OK" are the verticle stabalizers. I'm still going keep it though, since I will have 2 ANA. __________________

07-06-2007, 02:32 PM	#7
B-16707 i need more space Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 6,292	Re: To fill or not to fill so how did it get screwed? __________________ The Completed Customs The Airport want 1:200 B773ER details decals? for info check this out http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...tml#post601882

07-06-2007, 04:01 PM	#8
Bill-ay Bill-ay the A320 FO Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Dallas Age: 14 Posts: 2,536	Re: To fill or not to fill Well it was probably because it was his first real model. __________________ I all widebodied airbuses, except the bulbus A380 View my collection(if you really care, its only HE OG models). http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...tion-4996.html LONG LIVE THE DC-10/A300/A310/MD-80!!!

07-06-2007, 04:32 PM	#9
B-16707 i need more space Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 6,292	Re: To fill or not to fill no i want to know how it got screwed like what parts and what step __________________ The Completed Customs The Airport want 1:200 B773ER details decals? for info check this out http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...tml#post601882

07-06-2007, 10:51 PM	#10
Jboulin94 Wants an Aeroflot model! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,423	Re: To fill or not to fill Well, The fuselage, I rushed through. it didn't look that bad, but not the greatest. The decals were miserable. The windows were peeling, at least one door on either side came off, and still, after 2 weeks, if the stripes get like bumped or scratched, they peel. anyone wanna show me how they think is the easiest way of applying decals? That would be a *HUGE* help. __________________

07-06-2007, 11:18 PM	#11
Bill-ay Bill-ay the A320 FO Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Dallas Age: 14 Posts: 2,536	Re: To fill or not to fill Materiels needed: Small paint brush, cup-o-water, toothpick, setting solution(as seen in Modeling prt. 1), patience! 1. Cut the decal as liked out of the decal sheet. 2. Dip decal in water for 10 secs. Then put decal on paper towel and spread water on top of it. Wait 30 more secs. 3. Spread setting solution where decal is to be placed(instructions on back of the bottle of solution). 4. Gently slide the decal off of the backing with a small to medium paint brush. Once decal is on model, take toothpick and hold decal in place while you slide the rest of the decal with the brush on the model. 5. Adjust decal fast while it is still damp. Read solution instructions. 6. Enjoy the result! Hope I could be of help. Regards __________________ I all widebodied airbuses, except the bulbus A380 View my collection(if you really care, its only HE OG models). http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...tion-4996.html LONG LIVE THE DC-10/A300/A310/MD-80!!!

07-07-2007, 01:23 AM	#12
koolcare Hmmph, wise models they r Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: From Norway to the USA, from the USA to the Pacific Rim. Age: 20 Posts: 96	Re: To fill or not to fill I have seen models that have been unfilled in s hops, they look amazing, the shop owner told me he used a trim down plastic tape to pae over the windows and then carefully blocked out the windows for painting, and then removed it. But if you perfer a hogan type look, then block them out. But for him, that was the main reason why he didn't fill the windows as he said, if you have a filled window plane, then why not just buy a hogan model?

07-07-2007, 09:36 AM	#18
Jboulin94 Wants an Aeroflot model! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,423	Re: To fill or not to fill Yeah, i'm gonna sand today. its already looking better. __________________

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