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Originally Posted by JOHN JOHNSON
Tri-Jet will return one day......
They will have to replace quad with Tri one day anyhow. Twin engine, itself, have proven it's limitation while quad have proven the more flexibility. One will have to make Tri to replace quad engine when energy conservation become too sarfice, Just like back in 70's. Or to increase the air speed and reduce operation costs. That is the what it should be by time we become an elderly anyway.
Ask yourself will we see 500-600 mph (On long range flights) for the rest of our life? I doubt that.
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The future of air travel is up in the air (no pun intended) right now as no one can truly guess. My personal belief is that aircraft will be propelled out of the atmosphere and take advantage of the extremely high speeds and lack of friction in the orbit of the Earth, but one can't judge now.
The four engine design will, like other designs before it, will become obsolete. The four engines on the A380 and 747, and the six engines on the Antonov 225 are purely for propulsion purposes because they need to carry tons of horse **** or whatever they feel like flying that day.
Two engines are all a plane needs now. Not only are they becoming more powerful (the new GE-90's have 110,000 lbs of thrust!) but engines are also becoming more reliable. Even when an engine does fail a plane can remain airborne for hours (I believe the record is held by a United 777 that flew 253 minutes after a failure). Two engine planes are the future, and apparently Boeing (787) and Airbus (A350) realize that.
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Originally Posted by JOHN JOHNSON
As why Boeing not produce Delta, Lufthanasa, and other airliners MD-11?
Simple..... Do some research in this forum or Airliner.net and you will find plenty of proof.
Boeing conveniced airliners to go with 767-400 or 777 instead of MD's products after merge was made. Don't you remember that we once read a headline on Business newspaper that such as American or Delta cancel McDonnell Douglas and went for Boeing?
Have you notice? Pay Attention to Lufthanasa's fleet. Ask yourself that question. When was their last time they have received Boeing?
That is because LH is angry at Boeing for canceled their MD-11 request and end up in protest against Boeing by buying more Airbuses!
That idiot Phil Condit ordered some of crews to tear up MD-11's toolings after he found out the secret of buying more of MD-11 from LH and had to force cancel it. Even fired someone responsible with that dealing with LH.
USAF in shopping for a new aircraft..... Boeing finally made their deepest (crybaby) confession that they made a GRAVE mistake for destroying the MD-11 tools as they finally realized that they would have won big deal over 330 and 767 with the USAF as long they have MD-11 tools on hand.
I do not hate Boeing. I hate the way management have done and is doing as they are heading for worst direction. It is going to take a long time and costlier to correct the problems.
Really I do have my confidence that one day Boeing will "comeback" Tri-engine back in the market. When? Time will tell.
(Maybe something "All-New" to replace 747 one day?)
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At Airliners.net you can find information about almost anything, trust me, I'm a member. But what one has to watch out for is the burning "I Hate ____" posts. You have to be selective in what to believe on there.
And of course Boeing is going to try and convince someone with McDD orders to change to Boeing. Why would Boeing want double the price to provide service and parts for the next 60 years for two aircraft when they can do it for one and make more money doing it? Say you have a lemonade stand, and you go and buy out the competition across the street with a cookie. Are you going to keep paying for the competitions lemonade? Hell no, you merge with them, and keep the **** you want.
American was pissed with McDD because the MD-11 fell waaayyyyy short of range requirements. Like back in ye olde days of aviation, AA went with Boeing because of a superior product.
Lufthansa recently ordered 744F's from Boeing for a new Asian cargo carrier in which they have a (63%?) stake in. Lest us not forget the assembly point of the A320 families. Hamburg. Or Airbuses new machining facility. Bremen.
I'd like to see the press release from Boeing's website admitting that they made a mistake in destroying the MD-11's riggings, which should have no effect on the 767 as the 767's are manufactured in Everitt while the MD-11's were from Long Beach.
And I wasn't aware that the USAF ordered A330 tankers.
Boeing are selling planes aren't they? They seem to be doing just fine to me.
The day's of the trijets are gone. Now down to dwindling 727's, the almost extinct race of L-1011's, and the cargo running DC-10's and MD-11's.