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Originally Posted by JOHN JOHNSON
Why AA and DL dumped their MD-11..... (Thanks to union) Pilots' salary. Also performance dont satisfy AA. I believe that airliners had to get rid of MD-11 so no whiners can claim such as "Hey AA is paying better than us or in the opposite." That was part of reorganization in DL.
Let me ask why DL defer get more 764/777? Back to the bottom line (Union) High salary pilots. (Larger seat # = High pay pilots) Look at UA and AA they are being so aggressive and threat such as shred pension in a trash can.
SWA is sitting and laughing their *** off while major airliners are trying to reorganizate to challenge against SWA. I'd not be surprise that UA will have to get rid of 1/2 777 out of their fleets one day.
That is my own view and opinion. Believe whatever you want to.
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It's Not A Question Of What I Believe. It's The Facts That I Have Gathered Over The Years.
I Don't Know Anything About The Politics Of What You Are Talking About, But Usually When It Comes To New Aircraft, New Pilot's Contracts Can Kill A New Aircraft Purchase If The Pilot's & Unions Are Too Greedy, As What Just Happened With Air Canada.
And How Can You Compare An airline That Only Has 737s To MD-11s/777s?
SWA I Laughing At EVERYONE. Not Just AA & Delta.
I Also Forgot to Mention Part Of AA's & Deltas Woes Are Poor Management.
And Where Did You Get the Higher Seat Count? The 777-200 Is Nearly Identical To the MD-11 In Passenger Capacity.
As For Getting Rid Of Half The 777 Fleet?
Actually, United Already Parked 777s In the Desert.
Air india Now Is Leasing Two Of Them.
Of Course Any Airline Will Get Rid Of A Large Aircraft If Lower Than 50 % Capacity.
Just Look At What Happened On The Day Of 911, The Pinnacle Days Of Air Travel. 40 Pax On A 170 Seat 757.
76 & 84 Pax Respectively On 230 Seat 767s. And So On. Planes Of Every Size
Operateted With Far Too Few Passengers.
And What About These Airlines That Dumped MD-11s & Now Have 777s.
Korean, Malaysia, Thai.
So, Let's Talk About The Airlines That DIDN'T Dump Aircraft For MD-11s.
Air France, Cathay Pacific, British Airways, KLM (Operate Side By Side, Prefer 777s) Varig (Another side By Side Operater, Also prefer 777s)
Vietnam Airlines, Japan Airlines ( Another Side By side Operator) ANA, Singapore, EVA Air, Asiana. Lauda, Air India, Emirates, JAS, Saudia ( Another Side By Side Operator) Kenya Airlines, Kuwait Airlines, PIA And On And On.
Can ALL These Airlines Not be Happy With The 777s Performance?
If So, Why Is There Many Years' Waiting List For New 777s?
I Guess These Are Just Opinions Too?
But I Will Tell You What I Believe. Both Aircraft Are Outstanding. Both Aircraft Are Beautiful.
Now That's An Opinion & Not Fact.