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Old 06-22-2005, 11:50 PM   #12
JOHN JOHNSON
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Originally Posted by L-1011-Heavy
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THE MD-11's Last Price Tag Of 135,000,000 Dollars Was About The Time A 777 Was $140,000,000.
Infaltion, New Developments (And A Little Boeing Greed Due To The Fact This Is A MONEY MAKING MACHINE)
Brought The 777-2LR & 777-300ER To These Levels, But I Think With Discounts An Airline Can Get Basic Versions Of 200 ERs For About 160-170 Million.
You Can Bet If MDC Was Still In Business, The MD-11 Would Be About 180 Million At Least & Over 200 Million For The Proposed MD-12.

As For Fuel Consumption, The 777 Is About 10% Lower Than An Airbus 340- 5 & 6.
If They Were Such Gas Guzzlers & SOOO Expensive, Why Did American & Delta DUMP Thier MD-11s For 777s?
Airlines Are Revelling At The Performance & Operating Costs.

Airlines Are Not Making Money Overall, Because Of Low Passenger Count, Discount Airlines,
As Cheap As Second Hand MD-11s Are, 20-30% More Fuel Burn Than A 777 Or Airbus, Lack Of Spare Parts(Makes Them Costlier) & Delays Do Not Make For Economic Operations. Delays Are More Expensive Than Buying New Planes.

Don't Get Me Wrong, I Like The MD-11. It Is Unfortunate MDC Is No Longer In Business, And I Would Have LOVED To See The Would Have Been MD-12!

It's Just The Way Things Are.
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Why AA and DL dumped their MD-11..... (Thanks to union) Pilots' salary. Also performance dont satisfy AA. I believe that airliners had to get rid of MD-11 so no whiners can claim such as "Hey AA is paying better than us or in the opposite." That was part of reorganization in DL.

Let me ask why DL defer get more 764/777? Back to the bottom line (Union) High salary pilots. (Larger seat # = High pay pilots) Look at UA and AA they are being so aggressive and threat such as shred pension in a trash can.

SWA is sitting and laughing their *** off while major airliners are trying to reorganizate to challenge against SWA. I'd not be surprise that UA will have to get rid of 1/2 777 out of their fleets one day.

That is my own view and opinion. Believe whatever you want to.
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