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Originally Posted by Sven Nikolaus
The MD-11 was always a programme haunted by bad luck. Like Lockheed's Tristar: excellent aircraft but no economic success.
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Please pardon me, I want to ask that kiddo over the block that question.....(Jetsetter)
Market Condition......
MD-11 and 777
Price tag $130,000,000 per aircraft v.s. 200,000,000> per aircraft. $70,000,000 difference a piece.
Load factor on two of those are similar but 777 can carry more psgr in 3 classes than the MD-11
777 are rumoured to be known as gas-guzzler as well. Around 10-30% more consumpation than the MD-11! However considering the passanger load factor so 777 seem to win..... When people said that MD-11 is gas guzzler and I do not buy to that. It is engine design that is causing poor result on an MD-11 even they have corrected all of the drag problems. Blame to the engine-makers.
Let me ask you that question, Such Airliners like United and AA have excessive 777 fleets and they are struggling!!!!!! Delta deffering to buy any more of 777..... ETOP costs..... etc etc etc is making 777 costly to have.
I do not personally believe that 777 is a right specification as an MD-11 replacement. It is consider as the between size of MD-11 and 747. Look at those Asia-regions are buying more 777 than they are buying the 747.
Soon we will see the Death of 747 if this trend contiunes.
Let me ask you question: After 777F unveiled..... Why don't I see 100+ in order? It is $$$$$$$$$ friggling expensive $$$$$$$$$! Just to carry a cargo of dogs****? You can buy a MD-11 for $10,000,000 to 30,000,000 depending on their age and able to fly more years!!! That makes an AAA+++ for cargoliners to make lot of money with less "plane" payments than if they own an 777F.
MD-11 remain in the best market and remain a great demand.
Soon parts will become a problem for the MD-11. Again, Thanks to Boeing!
Overall, 777 won big time is because it is ALL-NEW aircraft. MD-11 is just an another "DC-10". Suppose if MD-11 is ALL-NEW aircraft than the DC-10 at the price of $130,000,000 and better performance result than the MD-11. It will cripple the 777's success. Without a question!
Do search on fuel consumpation that was debated sometime ago....... You will see the chart of aircraft's fuel consumpation by wizard guy.
Come on, I want to hear your market condition on those issues.