I am looking at having a special 500 plane run made with a Support Cancer Research on it. This plane would be made by Gemini Jets. As we all know some of us have either known someone or have had a family member battle this life threating illness. How many of you would be interested in a special plane with this on it. If you are interested please not only post but vote for the plane you are most interested in seeing done. 100% of the sale's from this plane will be donated to the American Cancer Society.
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Not interested!
I make my donations directly to the Canadian Cancer Society, and I don't need a model for it, nor do I need to add a single Penny to GJ or JC's bottom line to make my donation!
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Not interested!
I make my donations directly to the Canadian Cancer Society, and I don't need a model for it [Mod - personal insult removed]
What the hell is up with these forums and everyone thinking we need to know your options? Everything thing from the "nothing for me this month, blah blah blah" to the above post.
Glad you make direct donations, you're so much better than us.
Lots of people don't donate money to any causes. This isn't a bad way to get money to a worthy fund, it drums up interest.
Back to the model, I would be interested. The Delta 767 would be cool, and if it is possible would interest general collectors and also people in this thread. Either way fantasy or real livery I would be interested.
What the hell is up with these forums and everyone thinking we need to know your options? Everything thing from the "nothing for me this month, blah blah blah" to the above post.
Glad you make direct donations, you're so much better than us.
Lots of people don't donate money to any causes. This isn't a bad way to get money to a worthy fund, it drums up interest.
Back to the model, I would be interested. The Delta 767 would be cool, and if it is possible would interest general collectors and also people in this thread. Either way fantasy or real livery I would be interested.
I bet it's easy (for some "special" people) to get in the habit of having people hang on every word they speak ...
Have you never been to 400SH ?
Can anyone provide a picture of this Delta 767-400 you're speaking of ?
Whoops didnt realize Gemini didnt have a 767-400 mold, Rod just mentioned it in the 1/200 forum. Maybe they can borrow Herpa's or Dragons?
I have every 764 release from DW. Have to say it's excellent. The AMC version would be fine excuse to add another to the collection. It would be great to see a 'jellybean' fleet evolve from the Delta colors already flying.
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What the hell is up with these forums and everyone thinking we need to know your options? Everything thing from the "nothing for me this month, blah blah blah" to the above post.
Glad you make direct donations, you're so much better than us.
Lots of people don't donate money to any causes. This isn't a bad way to get money to a worthy fund, it drums up interest.
Back to the model, I would be interested. The Delta 767 would be cool, and if it is possible would interest general collectors and also people in this thread. Either way fantasy or real livery I would be interested.
A question was asked, and a response was given; what's your problem bud??
I do not agree with you at all!
Donations to the American (or Canadian in my case) Cancer Societies come from the heart, and people shouldn't have to be enticed into donating. If they donate, it is because they want to!
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A question was asked, and a response was given; what's your problem bud??
I do not agree with you at all!
Donations to the American (or Canadian in my case) Cancer Societies come from the heart, and people shouldn't have to be enticed into donating. If they donate, it is because they want to!
First off this is not to entice anyone to donate. I don't think Gemini Jets enticed anyone when they released the two they made nor did they entice anyone to buy the Habitat for Humanity plane either. If your not interested in buying one when there made then so be it and move on. I will not tolerate this thread being turned into a bashing contest over something that I am trying to due for people who are suffering from cancer. My grandfather died of cancer my grandmother had breast cancer. My grandfather retired from TWA in fact. I had thought of doing a specail TWA support cancer plane but I didn't do that. I want to hear from other collectors and what they wanted to see.
A question was asked, and a response was given; what's your problem bud??
I do not agree with you at all!
Donations to the American (or Canadian in my case) Cancer Societies come from the heart, and people shouldn't have to be enticed into donating. If they donate, it is because they want to!
THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH ENTICING PEOPLE TO DONOTE. It is how ALL charities work.
Like I said you're better than us. My problem with you is you have to be high and mighty.
You dont have to agree.
People shouldnt need to be enticed but guess what they have to be.
Way to be naive.
As said before, I'll be up to buy a model to where the money from sales goes to a cancer cause. Would I just donate otherwise....most likley not.
Honestly aklein, shut up. If someone donates, be it through goodness of heart or because there was something that they got, why should you care money either way gets to the donation source.
Grow up. Not everyone is a saint.
By the way "bud" the question was a yes or no answer. There are no opinions on a yes or no answer.
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First off this is not to entice anyone to donate. I don't think Gemini Jets enticed anyone when they released the two they made nor did they entice anyone to buy the Habitat for Humanity plane either. If your not interested in buying one when there made then so be it and move on. I will not tolerate this thread being turned into a bashing contest over something that I am trying to due for people who are suffering from cancer. My grandfather died of cancer my grandmother had breast cancer. My grandfather retired from TWA in fact. I had thought of doing a specail TWA support cancer plane but I didn't do that. I want to hear from other collectors and what they wanted to see.
Well, you're hearing from other collectors (I fall into that category), and despite what wankers like camaroz may think, I will state my opinion, and not shut up!
First, my condolences to you for the loss of your grandparents!
Second, take my advice, for whatever it's worth; as noble as your idea may be, the best possible scenario, is to take whatever you were going to "donate" to GJ/JC's coffers, and write the entire check to the "American Cancer Society". Goodness knows, they can use it!
Thank-you!
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I don't see how there's a problem with making a model for charity, but i can kind of see the concern on where the money is going?
Maybe this needs a better system to prove the profit is going to American Cancer Society?
I mean... chill guys... firing at one another is not the way out, we need a better solution to make this happen
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All of the proceeds of the sale 100% of all of the the sale's from this plane will be donated to the American Cancer Society.
a post on can't prove anything really
need some black and whites
or see if there's something similar to this ->CLICK<-
you can keep track of who donated and set a minimum amount of the donation,
so that we know part of the money went directly to the charity.
but this will only work if American Cancer Society have this option.
and you can charge us the price (maybe + some transaction fee) for making these models after?
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All of the proceeds of the sale 100% of all of the the sale's from this plane will be donated to the American Cancer Society.
How much would you sell the model for? $30? $35? Assuming that, aprox $12-$15 of it end up with Johan Chan. No f'ing way I would send any of my hard earned money his way!
Hell would freeze over before they would "give" you a run of models free of charge!
Like I said, I would rather write my check directly to the ACS or CCS, knowing that all my donations go to needed research.
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Like seriously
For every diecast made, manufacturer makes money off of it.
I don't see why you wouldn't want the profit (even partial of the profit) goes to charity.
If you are really against the fact that the manufactures(JC for instant) in making profit to keep this hobby going, then why bother collecting?
If you think the model is enticing people to donate
Think about that the feeling of rightous deed that you get from donating
You are being enticed by that righteousness
So chill out
How much would you sell the model for? $30? $35? Assuming that, aprox $12-$15 of it end up with Johan Chan. No f'ing way I would send any of my hard earned money his way!
Hell would freeze over before they would "give" you a run of models free of charge!
Like I said, I would rather write my check directly to the ACS or CCS, knowing that all my donations go to needed research.
I agree! In general, the idea is not bad, but unless you aren't in the position to produce these models on your own, the best way to help the ACS would be to donate the full money to them..
Or do you want to buy GJ models and want to customize them with special decals? - then you would need to pay for the donnors and sell them, but i guess that's not your intention, right?
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How much would you sell the model for? $30? $35? Assuming that, aprox $12-$15 of it end up with Johan Chan. No f'ing way I would send any of my hard earned money his way!
Hell would freeze over before they would "give" you a run of models free of charge!
Like I said, I would rather write my check directly to the ACS or CCS, knowing that all my donations go to needed research.
Dude, I am getting real tired of this. Just go on to another thread and leave this alone!!! I am tired of this crap just go away!!!
I agree! In general, the idea is not bad, but unless you aren't in the position to produce these models on your own, the best way to help the ACS would be to donate the full money to them..
Or do you want to buy GJ models and want to customize them with special decals? - then you would need to pay for the donnors and sell them, but i guess that's not your intention, right?
I am paying for the planes out of my own pocket. The price of the plane depends on what one is made if the 717 is made they are $10.00 a plane so I would sell them for $15 or $20 dollars that is all.
Dude, I am getting real tired of this. Just go on to another thread and leave this alone!!! I am tired of this crap just go away!!!
Wow, relax! Why so huffy? Mr. Klein has a good point there!
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I am paying for the planes out of my own pocket. The price of the plane depends on what one is made if the 717 is made they are $10.00 a plane so I would sell them for $15 or $20 dollars that is all.
Ok, so you want to make a production run of 500 units that's at least $5000! Anyway, 500 units are way too much IMHO! Many manufacturers like Aeroclassics or Jet-X have smaller production runs on their standard releases.. So considered that your ambition is serious and your plan is to double your $5000 dollars, have you ever thought that you might only sell 100 models which would be a lot.. Then you have model planes worth $4000 sitting around and the ACS gets only $2000... I would suggest you to spend the $5000 directly and show us your check and we will all salute you!
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Wow, relax! Why so huffy? Mr. Klein has a good point there!
Ok, so you want to make a production run of 500 units that's at least $5000! Anyway, 500 units are way too much IMHO! Many manufacturers like Aeroclassics or Jet-X have smaller production runs on their standard releases.. So considered that your ambition is serious and your plan is to double your $5000 dollars, have you ever thought that you might only sell 100 models which would be a lot.. Then you have model planes worth $4000 sitting around and the ACS gets only $2000... I would suggest you to spend the $5000 directly and show us your check and we will all salute you!
First he dosen't have a point other than to cause a problem. He has been doing nothing but bad mouthing everything that is going on.
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First he dosen't have a point other than to cause a problem. He has been doing nothing but bad mouthing everything that is going on.
Then obviously you are not reading what is being written, and no, I won't go away!
The only problem being caused, is that you're trying to tell us that this "project" will benefit ACS when in fact, until you've recouped your investment, the only one who sees any $$$ is Johan Chan!
I've got news for you my friend, I've got better ways to spend my money than to line his pockets.
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Then obviously you are not reading what is being written, and no, I won't go away!
The only problem being caused, is that you're trying to tell us that this "project" will benefit ACS when in fact, until you've recouped your investment, the only one who sees any $$$ is Johan Chan!
I've got news for you my friend, I've got better ways to spend my money than to line his pockets.
You know you have nothing better to do then cause problems I am sick of it. GO AWAY!!!!! Everytime you post in this thread I will report it from now on. I am tired of this. Who cares about some Johan Chan. I don't care all you are doing is casuing problems. Get lost A$$Hole
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Wow, relax! Why so huffy? Mr. Klein has a good point there!
Ok, so you want to make a production run of 500 units that's at least $5000! Anyway, 500 units are way too much IMHO! Many manufacturers like Aeroclassics or Jet-X have smaller production runs on their standard releases.. So considered that your ambition is serious and your plan is to double your $5000 dollars, have you ever thought that you might only sell 100 models which would be a lot.. Then you have model planes worth $4000 sitting around and the ACS gets only $2000... I would suggest you to spend the $5000 directly and show us your check and we will all salute you!
Actually Thomas, in this example, ACS would get nothing.
If he spent $5000 to get 500 models, but only sold 100 pcs, even 200 pcs, he would not even have recouped his investment yet.
Even if he sold 300 models at $20, that's $5000 for Johan Chan, and $1000 for ACS, probably alot less, cause shipping/freight customs duties have not even been considered yet.
You're right about one thing, which I previously stated, let him just donate all his project funds to ACS!
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You know you have nothing better to do then cause problems I am sick of it. GO AWAY!!!!! Everytime you post in this thread I will report it from now on. I am tired of this. Who cares about some Johan Chan. I don't care all you are doing is casuing problems. Get lost A$$Hole
At least I've remained civil; look at yourself!
Aren't you interested to know where your money will go??
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All I hear you say is some guy's name who has nothing to do with Gemini Jets.
He only makes their models for them!
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No, you pay someone at GeminiJets $xyz who turn it all over to Johan Chan!
Why are you so afraid of the facts?
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Since you are so free, maybe you should go do some volunteering, so your time won't be wasted on things that doesn't make any sense to you.
Your opinion has already been considered, and if you continue like now you won't make too many friends.
Repeating over and over again will only cause people to start ignoring your opinion.
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Repetition is sometimes required for those who can not read, or choose not to! I'm not here to make friends, only just to state facts.
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I am afraid of nothing why do you have to run it into the ground. Who care's sbout Johan Chan!!! I don't CARE!!!!!! GET IT
That's because until about 30 seconds ago, you had no idea what you were talking about!
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You obviously don't know what you're talking about, or even who you're supposedly dealing with for your project.
How do you expect to gain the confidence of others?
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You obviously don't know what you're talking about, or even who you're supposedly dealing with for your project.
How do you expect to gain the confidence of others?
I know who I am dealing with a GJ. So shut the hell up. Every post you make I am going to report you are doing nothing more than harassing me and spamming this thread
Andrew, I just thought of something, what if it's one of the GJ models that was made at the Pheonix factory? Let's not forget that while GJ is currently in quite the healthy relationship with the JC factory (as we have seen with the usage of quite a few of their moulds already), there are still GJ models coming from the PHX factory and maybe at least one other factory as well (though to be honest, as with most bigger guys who outsource to many factories, that is hard to say whom and where).
Ironically though, when it comes to GJ, I have noticed that the quality of the Phoenix examples is similar to that of certain VAZ 2105s (and not in a good way)! With the JC made releases, it seems quite the opposite (and it should as long as they use the current mould line up they are using now, as essentially the rest of the JC line up leaves things to be desired, even when compared to GJ's non JC made stuff.)
Anyways, while I am thinking that 500 units, with $5000 going to production (at least) is quite a bit (granted, 250 might be able to move nicely, 500, that could have some issues), I don't know what TWA 10 does for a living, for all I know he could be a hotshot attorney or a successful engineer! So I'm not going to argue over that, and it is his money that he is risking here (though if he sells 250, he already broke even with his original investment, but that is not counting other costs (shipping in particular)).
Hope you didn't mind my input, just my 2 cents from what I understand from reading the forums, and personal experience (with the PHX factory stuff. Of course, could be that they already got the PHX factory issues straightened out since then (hopefully.))
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