Roarer

I don't know, I just collect models!!

Well, it's more just a model of something like this:



I've never thought about it too hard, other than, it would be nice in a model, but a quick search found these:

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=K...frique&f=false
http://www.airlinehistory.co.uk/Afri...c/Airlines.asp

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Roarer

Oh yeah and if anyone could PLEASE make a Bn Islander (it doesn't have to be 1:400), then, for Scotland, we could have these:


This absolutely gorgeous Shetlandic one (I don't remember the wing edges being yellow when I saw it, and on the website below the picture, it appears to have been replaced with black):



http://www.shetland.gov.uk/transport/air/


AND, of course, that old Orcadian Loganair chestnut of mine:

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UK_Dispatcher

Orion Airways was a UK charter airline formed around 1980 as the in-house airline of Horizon Holidays. Orion operated with a fleet of B737-200s and were also the UK launch customer for the B737-300 which they operated from 1985. By 1987 they also had a couple of A300s.

Horizon was bought by Thomson Holidays whose in-house airline was Britannia Airways. In 1988 Orion was merged into Britannia and the airline was confined to history.

Orion was actually the first airline I flew with. I must have only been about 3 or 4 at the time but I vaguely remember it.

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interjet
magnicharters
air europa
gol
lan

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AnonCollector

Thanks, that gives enough to go on. If you've seen a picture and want a model, I guess that's enough reason to add it to the list, but realistically, that's a custom job you want there.

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AnonCollector

Not being British or European, I'll never understand the affinity for charter airlines shown by others in this topic.

I didn't realise Aeroclassics had a Fairchild 227 mold. Looks like it's been unused for years - were they not big sellers? Between that and JC Wings' new Shorts 360 mold, that brings a lot of airlines into the picture. I highly doubt we'll never see a BN Islander, Cessna or Beech 1900, but an ATR42/72 and EMB120 are plausible, no?

But with the Fairchild and Shorts, a bunch of forgotten US regional airlines are doable. I'm sure my list is missing at least a dozen of those.

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Gunship01

You got it. It was intended as a joke.

But do we really have all of the Virgin Atlantic 744s yet? We also could release all of the Air France 744s since they have a new livery now. That could be cool!

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It's no different from the affinity for US internal airlnes that never flew outside the US border. All British charter airlines flew routes to destinations throughout Europe, so were not just confined to UK.

They don't! This was a Gen 1 decalled release that was only made in three liveries, I believe. The mould was then re-tooled to produce the much better and more popular Fokker/Fairchild F-27A Series 100/200 which served in many more liveries.

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1/400th new mould wish list - you're doing a great job manufacturers, now just these left to do:
Armstrong-Whitworth Argosy,Bristol 170 Freighter,Handley Page Herald,Airspeed Ambassador,Avro York,Breguet 763 Deux Ponts,Tupolev Tu-104,Tu-114,Tu-134, Ilyushin IL-14, Canadair CL-44, L-1649A Starliner, Canadair C-4 North Star/Argonaut, Curtiss C-46

1/400collec

FlyDubai
Air North (Australia)
Skytrans
Vueling
Alliance Airlines
Strategic Aviation
Toll Aviation
Heavylift Cargo Airlines

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AnonCollector

I'm not talking about how domestic or parochial the interest is; i'm talking about charter vs regular scheduled service. Going on holiday on a charter carrier just seems to be a much more common activity in Europe than the US. I wonder why.

Looks like 4: Nordair, Northeast, Ozark, Air New England. And we're either to believe that somebody paid over $1000 each for the first three, or somebody made an error in updating the database.

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iberia727

boring ... so boring... I prefer TOGAFLEX rules.

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N8N1NW

Those are small airlines ya listed, but they are well known.

AnonCollector

well, i get to update the list because something got taken off of it: Air Nostrum.

Red = entire country has no models
Bold = I think it's a notable exception
Albania: Albanian, Belle
Algeria: Air Algerie
Argentina: LAN Argentina, LAPA (defunct)
Armenia: Armavia
Bangladesh: GMG (not sure if doable),
Belarus: Belavia
Belgium: Jetairfly (worst name ever)
Benin: Benin Golf Air (fleet size, a single 732)
Bolivia: LAB
Bosnia and Herzegovina: B&H/Air Bosna
Brazil: Azul, Gol, Cruzeiro (merged to Varig), Nordeste, Panair do Brasil, WebJet Linhas Aereas
Burma: Myanma Airways/Burma Airways
Cambodia: CambodiaAngkorAir
Canada: Porter, Vistajet (barely existed), Buffalo, Worldways, Sunwing
Cape Verde: TACV
Central African Republic: Air Centrafrique
Chad:Toumai Air Tchad
China: Shenzen Donghai (cargo)
Cote d'Ivoire: Air Ivoire
Croatia: Croatia Airlines (Star Alliance)
Denmark: Maersk Air, Cimber
Dominican Republic: LAN Dominicana
Djibouti: Air Djibouti (defunct)
Ecuador: TAME, LAN Ecuador
Egypt: Air Memphis, Lotus Air
Eritrea: Eritrean Airlines (a single 762)
Estonia: Estonian Air
France: Euroberlin
Gambia: Afrinat
Guinea:Air Guinee
Hungary: Wizz
Iceland: Sterling (defunct)
India: Indigo, GoAir, Paramount, Kingfisher red/deccan, Sahara (merged), SpiceJet
Indonesia: Bouraq, Sempati
Iran: Mahan Air
Ireland: Aer Arann (shorts 360 doable)
Italy: Air One, Meridiana
Kazakhstan: Air Astana
Kyrgyzstan: Kyrgyzstan Airlines
Lithuania: FlyLAL/Lithuanian (defunct)
Maldive Islands: Air Maldives (defunct)
Mali: Compagnie Aerienne du Mali/Air Mali
Malta: Air Malta
Mauritania: Air Mauritanie (defunct)
Mexico: Interjet, VivaAerobus, NovaAir, MagniCharters
Moldova: Air Moldova
Mongolia: MIAT
Montenegro: Montenegro Airlines (F100 can be made)
Mozambique: LAM
Nepal: Royal Nepal Airlines/Nepal Airlines
Netherlands: NLM
Nicaragua: Aeronica
Nigeria: Arik Air, Bellview
Norway: Wideroe, Norwegian Air Shuttle
Oman: Oman Air
Pakistan: Airblue
Palestine: Palestinian
Peru: LAN Peru
Philippines: Zest/Asian Spirit
Russia: Yamal, Omskavia
Rwanda: RwandAir
Seychelles: Air Seychelles
Slovakia: Air Slovakia
Somalia: Somali Airways (defunct)
South Korea: Jin Air/Air Korea
Spain: Vueling, Aviaco, Spanair, Clickair (merged), Air Madrid (defunct), Binter Canarias, Girjet
Switzerland: PrivatAir
Taiwan: UniAir (Eve air subsidiary)
Tajikistan: Tajik Air
Turkey: SunExpress, Onur Air
Turkmenistan: Turkmenistan Airlines
Uganda: Air Uganda
Ukraine: Aerosvit, Donbassaero, Dniproavia
United Arab Emirates: Air Arabia, FlyDubai
United Kingdom: Silver City Airways, Transair (to BUA), Orion, Flying Colours, Manx, Air UK Leisure, First Choice
United States: USA 3000, Lake Central, Best Airlines, Cascade Airways, Morris Air, Amerijet (cargo), Air New Orleans, Air Niagara, Imperial (US), Legend (Love Field Perimeter buster), MGM Grandair, Mid-Continent (merged Braniff), Southwest/Pacific (merged to Hughes Airwest), Vanguard
Uruguay: Atlantida Lineas Aereas Sudamericana
Venezuela: Conviasa
Yemen: Yemenia
Zambia: Zambian Airways (defunct)
Zimbabwe: Air Zimbabwe, Avient (cargo)

Taken off the list: Air Nostrum/Iberia Regional (GJ 2009)

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AnonCollector

Another one off the list. Porter, due to GJ.

I hope others don't consider this spam. I think it's an interesting list to maintain.

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jetblue190

How about Harmony Airways/Airlines and Bearskin Airlines from Canada.

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Indonesia :
Bouraq, Sempati, Mandala, Sriwijaya, Batavia, Airfast, Cardig, Citilink (old and new livery), Merpati, Kartika, AdamAir, Jatayu, Indonesian Airlines, Lion,Bali Air,

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lanceb

about time someone said this airline. I love their bright liveries. Pitty about the crash that brought their demise.

Adrian

Would be interested to see the list narrowed down to national flag carriers only. Might stand a better chance of getting these made, as they would be recognised by more people outside the forum.

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Armstrong-Whitworth Argosy,Bristol 170 Freighter,Handley Page Herald,Airspeed Ambassador,Avro York,Breguet 763 Deux Ponts,Tupolev Tu-104,Tu-114,Tu-134, Ilyushin IL-14, Canadair CL-44, L-1649A Starliner, Canadair C-4 North Star/Argonaut, Curtiss C-46

AnonCollector

I don't know. I think flag carrier is an outdated term, going back to the days when countries had a single dominant government-owned airline. That idea is becoming less and less relevant as airlines are privatised and newer airlines increase their market share.

But this is part of the reason I highlight model-less countries in a different color, to make them stand out. Often one of the airlines listed with them could be considered the flag carrier. I'm also putting some airlines in bold, to make them stand out from the lists of more obscure airlines.

Ah, I see Cruzeiro has been completed as well. Things are coming off the list faster than I expected.

Everybody can continue making suggestions; next time I update the list I'll add your ideas (unless I think something really crosses the line of obscurity)

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Blue Angel No.5

It would be great to see a Maersk 737. I believe they have yet to be released in 1/400. how about no representation at all!

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N922WN

How about Ukraine International? I believe they are the flag carrier for that country? If it is Aerosvit, I truly apologize.

SuriProf4

Surinam Airways
Insel Air

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May I suggest a MAT-Macedonian Airlines CRJ-900

gospodin

You forgot Greenland on your list.

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jetblue190

How about Clickair?

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With suggested updates. I think Gol will be next off the list.

Keep making suggestions; I'll update the list a few times a year.
Because of JC Wings' innovation in bringing the Shorts 360 and Saab 340, there are probably many commuter airlines that could now be added.

Red = entire country has no models
Bold = I think it's a notable exception

Albania: Albanian, Belle
Algeria: Air Algerie
Argentina: LAN Argentina, LAPA (defunct)
Armenia: Armavia
Bangladesh: GMG (not sure if doable),
Belarus: Belavia
Belgium: Jetairfly (worst name ever)
Benin: Benin Golf Air (fleet size, a single 732)
Bolivia: LAB
Bosnia and Herzegovina: B&H/Air Bosna
Brazil: Azul, Gol, Nordeste, Panair do Brasil, WebJet Linhas Aereas
Burma: Myanma Airways/Burma Airways
Cambodia: CambodiaAngkorAir
Canada: Vistajet (barely existed), Buffalo, Worldways, Sunwing, Harmony (defunct)
Cape Verde: TACV
Central African Republic: Air Centrafrique
Chad:Toumai Air Tchad
China: Shenzen Donghai (cargo)
Cote d'Ivoire: Air Ivoire
Croatia: Croatia Airlines (Star Alliance)
Denmark: Maersk Air, Cimber
Dominican Republic: LAN Dominicana
Djibouti: Air Djibouti (defunct)
Ecuador: TAME, LAN Ecuador
Egypt: Air Memphis, Lotus Air
Eritrea: Eritrean Airlines (a single 762)
Estonia: Estonian Air
France: Euroberlin
Gambia: Afrinat
Greenland (Denmark): Air Greenland
Guinea:Air Guinee
Hungary: Wizz
Iceland: Sterling (defunct)

India: Indigo, GoAir, Paramount, Kingfisher red/deccan, Sahara (merged), SpiceJet

Indonesia: Batavia, Sriwijaya, Mandala, Citilink (Garuda's domestic LCC shuttle), Bouraq (defunct), Sempati (defunct), Airfast, Cardig (cargo), Kartika, AdamAir (defunct), Jatayu (defunct), Indonesian Airlines (defunct), Bali Air (defunct)

Iran: Mahan Air
Ireland: Aer Arann (shorts 360 doable)
Italy: Air One, Meridiana
Kazakhstan: Air Astana
Kyrgyzstan: Kyrgyzstan Airlines
Lithuania: FlyLAL/Lithuanian (defunct)
Macedonia: MAT Macedonian (defunct)
Maldive Islands: Air Maldives (defunct)
Mali: Compagnie Aerienne du Mali/Air Mali
Malta: Air Malta
Mauritania: Air Mauritanie (defunct)
Mexico: Interjet, VivaAerobus, NovaAir, MagniCharters
Moldova: Air Moldova
Mongolia: MIAT
Montenegro: Montenegro Airlines (F100 can be made)
Mozambique: LAM
Nepal: Royal Nepal Airlines/Nepal Airlines
Netherlands: NLM
Netherlands Antilles: Insel Air (Curacao)
Nicaragua: Aeronica
Nigeria: Arik Air, Bellview
Norway: Wideroe, Norwegian Air Shuttle
Oman: Oman Air
Pakistan: Airblue
Palestine: Palestinian
Peru: LAN Peru
Philippines: Zest/Asian Spirit
Russia: Yamal, Omskavia
Rwanda: RwandAir
Seychelles: Air Seychelles
Slovakia: Air Slovakia
Somalia: Somali Airways (defunct)
South Korea: Jin Air/Air Korea
Spain: Vueling, Aviaco, Spanair, Clickair (merged), Air Madrid (defunct), Binter Canarias, Girjet
Switzerland: PrivatAir
Taiwan: UniAir (Eve air subsidiary)
Tajikistan: Tajik Air
Turkey: SunExpress, Onur Air
Turkmenistan: Turkmenistan Airlines
Uganda: Air Uganda
Ukraine: Aerosvit, Donbassaero, Dniproavia, Ukraine International
United Arab Emirates: Air Arabia, FlyDubai

United Kingdom: Silver City Airways, Transair (to BUA), Orion, Flying Colours, Manx, Air UK Leisure, First Choice

United States: USA 3000, Lake Central, Best Airlines, Cascade Airways, Morris Air, Amerijet (cargo), Air New Orleans, Air Niagara, Imperial (US), Legend (Love Field Perimeter buster), MGM Grandair, Mid-Continent (merged Braniff), Southwest/Pacific (merged to Hughes Airwest), Vanguard

Uruguay: Atlantida Lineas Aereas Sudamericana
Venezuela: Conviasa
Yemen: Yemenia
Zambia: Zambian Airways (defunct)
Zimbabwe: Air Zimbabwe, Avient (cargo)

Taken off the list:
Air Nostrum/Iberia Regional (GJ 2009)
Porter (GJ 2010)
Cruzeiro (AC 2010)

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To those who made suggestions:

jetblue190: thank you, I just added clickair and harmony. I'm not adding Bearskin due to a lack of moulds of their aircraft types.
gospodin: yes, i forgot greenland
newfster: MAT is a good one, just added
N922WN: No apology needed, you are right, I forgot Ukraine Intl and it is the official flag carrier
Blue Angel #5: I agree, Maersk should be done
cellindo: OK, now I have all these Indonesian airlines I never heard of. By the way, Lion Air and Merpati have been done already.
SuriProf: Surinam is underdone, but it has been done. The famous 743 has been done. But I'll add InselAir.

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MDWTWA

In the U.S., how about Western Pacific?

Of course, it does raise the question as to whom to approach in regard to licensing. Who owns the intellectual property of that carrier? And more importantly, does this mean approaching the companies who put their logos on the aircraft, or the estate of the airline? This is probably why this carrier hasn't been done yet.

For Canada, how about FirstAir?

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jetblue190

Herpa and DW released a Western Pacific model.

How about

Lufthansa Italia
Augsburg Airways ( A Q400 in 1:500)
Transaero
Loganair
Pacific Blue

Here's some more from the top of my head.

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Yes good idea, but if not 'flag carriers', then the major national airline of that country that includes that country's name in it's title. e.g. Air Zimabwe, Air Malta etc. I think if you narrowed the list down to these, there would be a good chance of them being done, rather than all the small airlines that many less-knowledgable people may never have heard of.

Well some of those are already pretty obscure in my book? Every one has a different view of what is obscure and what isn't. I'm very surprised to see Silver City Airways in the UK list? The only mould that could possible be done in this livery is a DC-3 as we have no Bristol Freighter or Handley Page Hermes moulds (there was a Vanguard painted up but it never saw service!). If Silver City is not regarded as obscure, then why aren't Invicta International(DC-4, Britannia & Vanguard) , Starways(DC-3,DC-4 & Viscount) or Skyways of London (DC-3 & HS748) not on the list, or BKS Air Transport (we only have the GJ Trident)?

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Armstrong-Whitworth Argosy,Bristol 170 Freighter,Handley Page Herald,Airspeed Ambassador,Avro York,Breguet 763 Deux Ponts,Tupolev Tu-104,Tu-114,Tu-134, Ilyushin IL-14, Canadair CL-44, L-1649A Starliner, Canadair C-4 North Star/Argonaut, Curtiss C-46

AnonCollector

FirstAir can be added, next time I refresh.

As for expired airlines, it depends on whether somebody bought rights to the brand or not, and whether they maintained the marks. The Pan Am name and logos are the property of an existing company, so licensing has to go through them. Some other defunct airline names and logos are likely back in the public domain.

LH Italia, Augsburg: absolutely. But for Augsburg, I don't think anybody who has the Q400 mold has a license with LH.

Transaero has been done quite a bit.

Loganair: yup, the Saab makes it possible.
PacificBlue: I'd have expected Phoenix to make that, and they have.

Thank you for the help.

Tell you what - I'll put a couple more in bold, to make them stand out. Suggest 2 or 3 more to highlight; no more.

As for obscure airlines, I'm just making the people happy. I think it's better to err on the side of too many, than too few. Random defunct airlines from the 70s might be done by AC. Brand new low cost carriers could grow.

I put Silver City on there because I thought you in particular would like it.

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There is no norwegian airline done.(SAS is scandinavian)
There is no danish airline done.(SAS is scandinavian)
There is no swedish airline done except "SAS lite" aka Scanair.

For most of us in the cold northern europe flying meant going on vacation to Majorca, Italy or some other mediterranean place. SAS was always expensive like hell to fly and was really for the guys in suits. Normal folks got a break when the charter airlines started flying.
Anyone going to Majorca through the years or the Canary islands have seen Braathens SAFE 737-200, Maersk 720 and 737, Sterling Airways 727 and Caravelle, Transair Sweden 727, Conair of scandinavia 720, Kar-Air DC-8 alongside local flavours such as Aviaco DC-8 and Caravelle, Spantax Coronado and Air Spain DC-8's.
Those were the airlines normal folks assosiated with flying, because they had flewn on them.

No, I don't agree that we should concentrate on flag carriers.
Adrian doesn't seem to mind that Great Britain has 458 yes, that's fourhundredandfiftyeight 1:400 models listed in the database!

Bring on the charter airlines!

Flying Kangaroo

Here in Sydney, I can't seem to find many Etihad models. I've seen the A380 here and there but nothing much else.

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I'll have to add Braathens for Norway; I'm surprised I missed it.
Sterling as well.

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