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Old 07-23-2007, 08:22 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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I have recently acquired Herpa's An-124, its very nice model but does have few issues with it, one of the issue is the span of the H Stabs Vs GJ An-124 release. Now my question is who got it right as GJ's H Stabs are quite larger in span Vs Herpa's!!....
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Wow ! Such a difference ! My HE is on the way, hope they got it right...
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Now my question is who got it right as GJ's H Stabs are quite larger in span Vs Herpa's!!....
Sorry, can't help you there with the real dimensions. Perhaps you can contact Antonov directly for the answer:

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I can't say that my answer is particularly technical, however, I scaled an AN-124 3-view drawing from the Antonov site using the 73.3m wingspan as a scaling reference and concluded that the span of the horizontal stabs is 26.654m. Accordingly, for a 1/400 scale model the span of the horizontal stabs should be 66.64mm, which leads me to conclude that the Herpa example is the more correct of the two at approximately 65mm (ie. slightly under). The GJ variant is smaller still.

Please note that neither my printer nor my plastic ruler are current in terms of calibration servicings, and the calculator used was Microsoft (what more can I say).

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as GJ's H Stabs are quite larger in span Vs Herpa's!!....
BTW, I forgot to mention, I think you have this back to front, the Herpa (Volga Dnepr) is the larger of the two.
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The Volga Dnepr is a GJ...
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The Herpa version of the AN-124 is smaller in most dimensions to the GJ version. I noticed that the engines, the nose, the stabs are all smaller on the Herpa, but the cockpit windows are larger, they look very strange. The only thing going for that model, IMO, is the seamless wing-to-body join. Otherwise, I much prefer the GJ version.
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Ray,

Thanks for the measurements on stabs, i couldn't get around to doing them.
Yes Herpa 124 does have few issues as many others out there but i still prefer it over GJ 124s. Nose is very accurate, cockpit windows are far too big, engines are smaller and not accurate due to that, i prefer GJ 124 engines on Herpa version. GJ 124 has extended wing body fairing in front of L/E and thats not right Vs Herpa it's perfect, Yet tail cone of Herpa has depression in the mould on both side Vs GJ which is perfect. So it goes both ways but i still prefer Herpa over GJ and seam-less wing body joint is big plus on Herpa!...

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Mystère, love the photo of the Air Inter Mercure. I hold out hope that a manufacturer will give us this model one day.

But hopefully in 1:200 scale.
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Thanks for the measurements on stabs, i couldn't get around to doing them.
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The Volga Dnepr is a GJ...
Now, now Mystère, no need to be sarchastic, my confusion about the Volga Dnepr was as a result of doing comparisons with my own Volga Dnepr which is Herpa. In which case, I suggest that if the Herpa is still the most correct (if it measures the same as my HW Volga Dnepr) being shorter by about 1.6mm and the GJ is much larger in comparison to the actual an error which looks to exceed 1.6mm by quite a margin, based on the OP images.

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Now, now Mystère, no need to be sarchastic, my confusion about the Volga Dnepr was as a result of doing comparisons with my own Volga Dnepr which is Herpa. In which case, I suggest that if the Herpa is still the most correct (if it measures the same as my HW Volga Dnepr) being shorter by about 1.6mm and the GJ is much larger in comparison to the actual an error which looks to exceed 1.6mm by quite a margin, based on the OP images.

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I still like the look of the GJ version better, even if measurements are slightly off. The Herpa version just doesn't look right, but I wish GJ would adopt the Herpa quality vis-a-vis the wing joins. Herpa also needs to get with the other makers on the type of plastic used for engines and tails, that cheap stuff that Herpa uses looks terrible.
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Now, now Mystère, no need to be sarchastic, my confusion about the Volga Dnepr was as a result of doing comparisons with my own Volga Dnepr which is Herpa. In which case, I suggest that if the Herpa is still the most correct (if it measures the same as my HW Volga Dnepr) being shorter by about 1.6mm and the GJ is much larger in comparison to the actual an error which looks to exceed 1.6mm by quite a margin, based on the OP images.

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Sorry, I thought you were talking about the one on photo.

Jorge, I hope for a Mercure someday too, but I'm not too optimistic about a 1/400 one, maybe 1/200...
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