Reserved Elegance: America West Navaho

L-1011-Heavy · 12-01-2006, 11:58 PM

After The Discussion In Trevors Thai A-300 Royal Orchid Thread, I Thought It Fitting I Share My Pics Of One Of My All Time Fave Schemes.
This Was Once An Exclusive Thread "For TK" Elsewhere. Don't Ask...
Another Classic Livery That Should Never Have Disappeared...
Enjoy..

SANNY-LAX · 12-02-2006, 12:17 AM

Your pictures totally fantastic and the technick you take the pictures is really amazing, GOOD JOB

Santos · 12-02-2006, 04:14 AM

Fantastic shots Rick!

I agree that this is one of the best liveries around that are almost gone. I do have the AW 732 OC and love it.

Andy · 12-02-2006, 07:21 AM

Excellent photography, but what bizarre pictures... They never had six 747s, so why put that many models together in a diarama?

fazeman · 12-02-2006, 08:48 AM

Rick,
Your pictures are outstanding. In addition to what Andy mentioned about the 747s, do you use photo magic to create additional planes in your diorama shots?

Mystère · 12-02-2006, 10:26 AM

Nice, but as a real perfectionist you should have bent and extended the flaps for the "inflight" shots...

L-1011-Heavy · 12-02-2006, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy

Excellent photography, but what bizarre pictures... They never had six 747s, so why put that many models together in a diarama?

N531AW To N534AW Were EX KLM Machines. There Were Two First, But AW Acquired Two More. N535AW & N536AW Acquired Elsewhere (Can't Remember) Were Only In The Fleet For Less Than A Year (Intended For The Proposed Sydney Route, Overconfident, But Rights Were Not Approved) Before Retiring The Entire Fleet Of 747s.
Extremely Poor Volumes On The Nagano Route (Only 1 Pax Once) & The Lack Of Rights To Sydney Relegated The 747s To The Bird Of Paradise (Hawaii) & New York Routes, But Proved To Be Unprofitable.
I Actually Saw 2 Pics Of N535AW But Are No Longer Online. Never Saw Pics Of N536 AW But Yes, It Was In The Fleet.

L-1011-Heavy · 12-02-2006, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fazeman

Rick,
Your pictures are outstanding. In addition to what Andy mentioned about the 747s, do you use photo magic to create additional planes in your diorama shots?

Nope. I Own 6 Models. I'm Pretty Good In Photoshop But Not THAT Good.

L-1011-Heavy · 12-02-2006, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystère

Nice, but as a real perfectionist you should have bent and extended the flaps for the "inflight" shots...

Yes! Good Idea! But I'm Not Selling These For PROFIT Like The Model Manufacturers Are, And IF I Were That Much Of A Perfectionist, I Wou;d ASK For Moving Flaps/Slats/Ailerons/Stabilizers/Rudders, Not To Mention Spoilers!
! As It Were, It's Already 1-2 Hours Per Photo. Probaly 2-4 Hrs Per Photo If I Were To Set Control Surfaces. Pay Me & I'll Be GLAD To Make Them Perfect.
As It Stands, Very few Flying Pics Of 400 Scle Models Are As Convincing As This.

gospodin · 12-02-2006, 11:50 PM

I notice that you have 531 and 532, and I think I see 534. Are the others all different? I know they didn't sell the same livery in different tail #s, did you alter them yourself?

fazeman · 12-03-2006, 01:11 AM

I went to www.airfleets.net and found the following:

Four 747-206Bs were in America West's fleet at one time or another.

1) N531AW delivery/disposal dates: 09/01/89 - 10/25/89. From original operator KLM as PH-BUA (Delivered 12/13/70). Status: Scrapped.

2) N532AW delivery/disposal dates: 11/06/89 - 10/14/91. From original operator KLM as PH-BUB (Delivered 02/15/71). Status: Scrapped.

3) N533AW delivery/disposal dates: 10/26/89 - 01/14/92. From original operator KLM as PH-BUC (Delivered 05/09/71). Status: Scrapped.

4) N534AW delivery/disposal dates: 07/16/90 - 05/02/92. From original operator KLM as PH-BUD (Delivered 08/06/71). Redelivered from Garuda on 07/13/92. To TWA 03/31/94. Status: Scrapped.

Please advise more information if you have other data.

L-1011-Heavy · 12-03-2006, 09:00 AM

Well I Wouldn't Have Wasted Money On Six If I Only Needed To Buy 4.
Before I Bought These, I Saw 2 Pics On Airliners Dot Net, One You Could Actually READ The Reg# N535AW. Unfortunately, Those Pics Are No Longer There As Many Pics I Once Saved On My Computer Before The Great Crash Are No Longer Available Any Nore Either.

I Have No Further Info, Except AW Ordered 2 747-4G7 But Never Took Delivery.
Airfleets Has Been Known Not To Be 100% Accurate, But Then I Haven't Either. We Are Flawed As Our Models!

JB · 12-03-2006, 09:50 AM

JP Fleets nor AeroTransport which I consider both highly reliable (I've only found one flaw in thousands of research searches on AeroTransport) and both only show four 747-200s all ex-KLM nor does it show for an order of two 747-400s.

psalover · 12-03-2006, 11:25 PM

Now is that one of those "real" BigBird 742's

Actaually those are outstending pictures. You have a great eye.

Chansen · 12-04-2006, 09:26 AM

Is it Navajo or Navaho? When I have been through the Nation just south of Lake Powell it was Navajo.

L-1011-Heavy · 12-04-2006, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psalover

Now is that one of those "real" BigBird 742's

Actaually those are outstending pictures. You have a great eye.

Yup! The ONE & ONLY! From The Original Big Bird Owners, Before Kermit. But The Mould Is Still Used Today By Kermit.
& Thanks For The Nice Compliment. It Makes It All The Worthwhile. It's Tons Of Hard Work Shooting The Aerial Photos.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig H. Hansen

Is it Navajo or Navaho? When I have been through the Nation just south of Lake Powell it was Navajo.

Yeah OK Sorry. Didn't Know That.

F27 Bonanza · 12-04-2006, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-1011-Heavy

N531AW To N534AW Were EX KLM Machines. There Were Two First, But AW Acquired Two More. N535AW & N536AW Acquired Elsewhere (Can't Remember) Were Only In The Fleet For Less Than A Year (Intended For The Proposed Sydney Route, Overconfident, But Rights Were Not Approved) Before Retiring The Entire Fleet Of 747s.
Extremely Poor Volumes On The Nagano Route (Only 1 Pax Once) & The Lack Of Rights To Sydney Relegated The 747s To The Bird Of Paradise (Hawaii) & New York Routes, But Proved To Be Unprofitable.
I Actually Saw 2 Pics Of N535AW But Are No Longer Online. Never Saw Pics Of N536 AW But Yes, It Was In The Fleet.

As far as I know and have read and heard about there were only 4 747s in the fleet. I used to work for this garbage airline so I talked to alot of the people who were around when 747s where in service. Also they flew to Nagoya not Nagano.

Greg

4engines4ever · 12-05-2006, 11:27 AM

I lived down there during that time and was an avid photographer and yank spotter. HP only had 4 747s. If N535AW and N536AW did exist they never graced the tarmac at PHX.

That being said, how 'bout throwin' some love my way Rick. I REALLY could use at least one of those!

MidwestAirlines · 12-05-2006, 02:10 PM

How did get that excellent pic of the 747 inflight? Very nice looking stuff!

L-1011-Heavy · 12-05-2006, 02:13 PM

Over Wendy's On Airport Road Runway 25!

12-01-2006, 11:58 PM	#1
L-1011-Heavy The Heavy One Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada, Eh? Trijets & Landors 4 EVER Age: 45 Posts: 4,445	Reserved Elegance: America West Navaho After The Discussion In Trevors Thai A-300 Royal Orchid Thread, I Thought It Fitting I Share My Pics Of One Of My All Time Fave Schemes. This Was Once An Exclusive Thread "For TK" Elsewhere. Don't Ask... Another Classic Livery That Should Never Have Disappeared... Enjoy.. __________________ *The Heavy Armada* *"In The Absence Of Excellence, There Is Only Mediocrity."*

12-02-2006, 04:14 AM	#3
Santos South American collector Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Brazil Age: 36 Posts: 2,716	Fantastic shots Rick! I agree that this is one of the best liveries around that are almost gone. I do have the AW 732 OC and love it. __________________ Wish list in 1:400 scale: 1) BETA DC-8-70F (dedicated to Celso please) 2) PANAIR DO BRASIL DC-8 reg.# PP-PDS 3) VARIGLOG MD-11F & B727-100 / 200F 4) VARIG Caravelle 5) TRANSBRASIL 727-100 6) RIO-SUL 737-500 old colors Thank you Aeroclassics for the VARIG Coronados!

12-02-2006, 08:48 AM	#5
fazeman Setting The Pace Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Virginia Beach, Va. Age: 49 Posts: 1,903	Rick, Your pictures are outstanding. In addition to what Andy mentioned about the 747s, do you use photo magic to create additional planes in your diorama shots? __________________ Steve

12-02-2006, 11:50 PM	#10
gospodin Diecast Blasphemer Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ceti Alpha V Age: 52 Posts: 3,055	I notice that you have 531 and 532, and I think I see 534. Are the others all different? I know they didn't sell the same livery in different tail #s, did you alter them yourself? __________________ Steve "Leave the gun. Take the cannoli."

12-03-2006, 01:11 AM	#11
fazeman Setting The Pace Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Virginia Beach, Va. Age: 49 Posts: 1,903	I went to www.airfleets.net and found the following: Four 747-206Bs were in America West's fleet at one time or another. 1) N531AW delivery/disposal dates: 09/01/89 - 10/25/89. From original operator KLM as PH-BUA (Delivered 12/13/70). Status: Scrapped. 2) N532AW delivery/disposal dates: 11/06/89 - 10/14/91. From original operator KLM as PH-BUB (Delivered 02/15/71). Status: Scrapped. 3) N533AW delivery/disposal dates: 10/26/89 - 01/14/92. From original operator KLM as PH-BUC (Delivered 05/09/71). Status: Scrapped. 4) N534AW delivery/disposal dates: 07/16/90 - 05/02/92. From original operator KLM as PH-BUD (Delivered 08/06/71). Redelivered from Garuda on 07/13/92. To TWA 03/31/94. Status: Scrapped. Please advise more information if you have other data. __________________ Steve Last edited by fazeman; 12-03-2006 at 10:11 AM.

12-02-2006, 12:17 AM	#2
SANNY-LAX Small Collector Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 465	Your pictures totally fantastic and the technick you take the pictures is really amazing, GOOD JOB

12-02-2006, 07:21 AM	#4
Andy Senior Collector Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: East Midlands, United Kingdom Posts: 492	Excellent photography, but what bizarre pictures... They never had six 747s, so why put that many models together in a diarama?

12-02-2006, 10:26 AM	#6
Mystère SO.30P Bretagne Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Midway between Omaha Beach and Paris. Age: 38 Posts: 1,118	Nice, but as a real perfectionist you should have bent and extended the flaps for the "inflight" shots...

12-03-2006, 09:00 AM	#12
L-1011-Heavy The Heavy One Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada, Eh? Trijets & Landors 4 EVER Age: 45 Posts: 4,445	Well I Wouldn't Have Wasted Money On Six If I Only Needed To Buy 4. Before I Bought These, I Saw 2 Pics On Airliners Dot Net, One You Could Actually READ The Reg# N535AW. Unfortunately, Those Pics Are No Longer There As Many Pics I Once Saved On My Computer Before The Great Crash Are No Longer Available Any Nore Either. I Have No Further Info, Except AW Ordered 2 747-4G7 But Never Took Delivery. Airfleets Has Been Known Not To Be 100% Accurate, But Then I Haven't Either. We Are Flawed As Our Models! __________________ *The Heavy Armada* *"In The Absence Of Excellence, There Is Only Mediocrity."*

12-03-2006, 09:50 AM	#13
JB Got Koalas? Join Date: Jan 1999 Age: 22 Posts: 5,181	JP Fleets nor AeroTransport which I consider both highly reliable (I've only found one flaw in thousands of research searches on AeroTransport) and both only show four 747-200s all ex-KLM nor does it show for an order of two 747-400s.

12-03-2006, 11:25 PM	#14
psalover Retro Junkie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: IN HELL!!!! Gotta Get Out!!! Age: 37 Posts: 2,877	Now is that one of those "real" BigBird 742's Actaually those are outstending pictures. You have a great eye.

12-04-2006, 09:26 AM	#15
Chansen Insane Collector Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Parker, CO Posts: 2,911	Is it Navajo or Navaho? When I have been through the Nation just south of Lake Powell it was Navajo.

12-05-2006, 11:27 AM	#18
4engines4ever Collector Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Intermountain West Age: 36 Posts: 115	I lived down there during that time and was an avid photographer and yank spotter. HP only had 4 747s. If N535AW and N536AW did exist they never graced the tarmac at PHX. That being said, how 'bout throwin' some love my way Rick. I REALLY could use at least one of those!

12-05-2006, 02:10 PM	#19
MidwestAirlines Private Pilot Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: KLGB Posts: 58	How did get that excellent pic of the 747 inflight? Very nice looking stuff!

12-05-2006, 02:13 PM	#20
L-1011-Heavy The Heavy One Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada, Eh? Trijets & Landors 4 EVER Age: 45 Posts: 4,445	Over Wendy's On Airport Road Runway 25! __________________ *The Heavy Armada* *"In The Absence Of Excellence, There Is Only Mediocrity."*

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