NEW RELEASE: 1:400 5 Stars SAS Scandinavian Airlines B 747-243BSF

British Airways · 06-17-2006, 08:38 AM

B 747-243BSF

1:400

Country:Sweden

Europe

NA

13471

2006

Units Produced 360

"1980s" Colors. With "Cargo" Titles. Named "Huge Viking".

W2

Box Code: NA

N517MC

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Santos · 06-17-2006, 09:44 AM

Pardon my ignorance but I´ve never heard of 5 stars models.

I also would like to know my folks comments about this release.

British Airways · 06-17-2006, 10:06 AM

Orginally 5 Stars was the succesor of Starjets and used to produce 1:500 scale models, but as of lately, they also do some 1:400 releases. The problem with those release is, that you're never know for certain what manufacturer it is until you've seen the model yourself or at least the box. As far as I can tell does this model uses the Blue Box 742 mould...

Michael

SANNY-LAX · 06-17-2006, 12:28 PM

Look at the engine, is not PW

airParadigm.com · 06-17-2006, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SANNY-LAX

Look at the engine, is not PW

It's suppose to have CF6 engines.

BU767 · 06-17-2006, 01:48 PM

This model is on my "must have" list, but I will NOT buy anything released on Blue Box (or CC) models.

What a shame, now none of the others probably won't release this model.

AK, will you please come to our rescue?

Harald
(BU767)

aklein707 · 06-17-2006, 02:06 PM

Yes Harald, I will!

The problem with the EuroClassics series, is that the back of the box portrays what's in the pipeline. It was safe for the 727s as nobody else would copy it, but a tactical error with the 747, as BluNutz/C&C I predict will be pumping out everything European asap.

None-the-less, I hereby announce that the EuroClassics SAS B.747-200c is in the pipeline, and will be released soon!! Details in a different thread!

BU767 · 06-17-2006, 02:53 PM

Thanks Andrew,

I will certainly wait and buy your version when it is released.

Keep up the good work.

Harald

olebno · 06-19-2006, 09:16 AM

Super Andrew. Look forward to the -200c. What about the ...-.. ? While at it, I support Harald's need for Braathens 767-200. Braathens did operate a few types you should be able to assist us with: DC-6, F-27, B737-200/400/500.

Ole B.

goldy · 06-19-2006, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aklein707

Yes Harald, I will!

The problem with the EuroClassics series, is that the back of the box portrays what's in the pipeline. It was safe for the 727s as nobody else would copy it, but a tactical error with the 747, as BluNutz/C&C I predict will be pumping out everything European asap.

None-the-less, I hereby announce that the EuroClassics SAS B.747-200c is in the pipeline, and will be released soon!! Details in a different thread!

Available to retailers via the ADI distribution network?

Peewee

hugo · 06-19-2006, 12:39 PM

at a higher price than Blue Box? - or is the idea to loss lead just to prove a point?

Apart from the usual "I won't buy it even though I want it because the herd say not to" characters - I would suggest that this will sell out as it appears do most Blue Box - there's an old saying about sticking to the knitting - Aeroclassic are really good at "classical issues" so stay doing them - there's even competition building between GJ and AC now all because of this determination to prove a point - and getting nowhere.

Hateful enough Todd?

aklein707 · 06-19-2006, 01:19 PM

Hugo, again, I refuse to back off of the use of MY 747 mould because certain pirates/bandits in HKG are out to make a quick buck of unsuspecting collectors. I PROMISE you that there will be SAS 747s in the near future, and alot better than the crap they are offering; cheaper too!

If you would rather buy their crap, nobody is stopping you!! Just don't keep whining about me copying them, because I am not! I had the SAS logo on my 747 box 6 months ago, so this is typical of the "money grab" to push something inferior out first, when they know what I've got planned!

hugo · 06-19-2006, 01:39 PM

AK I have never accused you of copying anybody - and have no belief that you have so done - what I was talking about was duplication of liveries - I have never suggested that your mould or the old 1:400 BB mould were inferior, what I have said is the Blue Box are continuously improving theirs, some of the earlier 1:400s were not good and as far as I am aware no-one has said any different, but they are getting better and they are selling well - just concentrate on what you are good at and let others make decisions on what they will or will not want to buy - it is not for you or your little coterie to demand others only buy your stuff. And since when were you cheaper? and compared to whom? Facts and figures please not raw bile all the time.

JOHN JOHNSON · 06-19-2006, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aklein707

If you would rather buy their crap, nobody is stopping you!! Just don't keep whining about me copying them, because I am not! I had the SAS logo on my 747 box 6 months ago, so this is typical of the "money grab" to push something inferior out first, when they know what I've got planned!

How much are those spies living on for spying whatever your doing? How do they know if you are tigh-lipped? I pounder whether it is those hos that you slept in hotel that may had pumped-n-dumped of you? You Da Man!

Should we feel sorry for you that you have to deal with those f@#king spiers?

aklein707 · 06-19-2006, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hugo

And since when were you cheaper? and compared to whom? Facts and figures please not raw bile all the time.

The maker of the BluNutz/C&C SAS 74F is offering them at HKD295 plus shipping from HKG (retail price) That's $38 plus shipping. My SAS 747s will retail for aprox $5 less.
Those are your facts and figures.

(UK import duties & VAT) are not included in the above figures, and would have to be added to both models. Still cheaper! Raw bile is usually what my critics spill; sorry!

Arctic Wings · 06-19-2006, 04:49 PM

The Blue Box have been slow to catch on here in the UK but Aero C. sales have declined over time from all reports. The Blue Box Air Transat Tristar has just appeared and, holding one in my hands, can say it is excellent. They have, I am told, many new molds coming out one of which shall delight we English. It seems as though the SAS/Iberia/Qantas 747s announced under the name 5-Star may well be the old BigBird mold. The only problem with their first 747 (Garuda oc) was the blister packing, which I believe has been solved. Several smaller brand names shall start using it, or an identical knock off, as it has become available. Trade prices (you call it wholesale in America) for Blue Box are similar to AC 747s. The bottom line is we collectors buy what we fancy and don't really need to be badgered by other manufacturers posting in self interest. I rather think a lot of collectors don't care about the history/politics involved and should welcome competition. Isn't that the basis of America's success in business?

JustPlaneCrazy · 06-19-2006, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arctic Wings

It seems as though the SAS/Iberia/Qantas 747s announced under the name 5-Star may well be the old BigBird mold.

You have no idea what you're talking about, it is NOT the old BigBird mould as Andrew owns that mould!

Those 5-Star/BlueBalls/C&C are horrible......

Plus, the only reason they are releasing them is because those were the upcoming Aeroclassics/EuroClassics releases shown on the back of the last AC/EC release........so.....buy the junk now or wait a month or two for the real thing that was announced 6 months ago.....your choice!

aklein707 · 06-19-2006, 05:47 PM

Sorry Mr. Arctic, the SAS/Iberia/Qantas are NOT off the old Big Bird mould, because that is now my mould, and I produce off that quality mould. 5-star is using a repackaged BluNutz/C&C mould, the most inferior in the hobby, hands down!

The Bae-146 BluNutz will shortly introduce to the delight of most Brits will be preceeded/followed (timing is critical) of another more superior Bae-146, as well as other British airframes, so they bring nothing new to the hobby!

If AeroClassics sales in the UK are declining, it's because more Brits are purchasing from abroad, as we are supplying less and less to UK based dealers, mostly due to their inability to pay invoices on a timely manner.

Bigbird400 · 06-19-2006, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arctic Wings

The Blue Box have been slow to catch on here in the UK but Aero C. sales have declined over time from all reports. The Blue Box Air Transat Tristar has just appeared and, holding one in my hands, can say it is excellent. They have, I am told, many new molds coming out one of which shall delight we English. It seems as though the SAS/Iberia/Qantas 747s announced under the name 5-Star may well be the old BigBird mold. The only problem with their first 747 (Garuda oc) was the blister packing, which I believe has been solved. Several smaller brand names shall start using it, or an identical knock off, as it has become available. Trade prices (you call it wholesale in America) for Blue Box are similar to AC 747s. The bottom line is we collectors buy what we fancy and don't really need to be badgered by other manufacturers posting in self interest. I rather think a lot of collectors don't care about the history/politics involved and should welcome competition. Isn't that the basis of America's success in business?

I don't think that this is the Bigbird mould. That is for sure! You're right saying the Tristar is getting better and it is doing very well in the UK with the RAF version out selling every other brand in that month as a single type of model. I wish other brands would do that well. Some others BBX types don't do so well. The B747 of Bluebox is one and that is fact. The newer BB2 (or call it what you like) B747-400 will do better when they do a model of interest and get the colours correct as this is near on identical to the 1:400 bigbird version. If they have copied the old Bigbird B747-200 mould then that is to be seen.

People will still want the Bigbird version in any form like those done by Aeroclassics but a collector will still buy what he wants and not what others don't want him to buy. Many still don't know these sites exist so the rants on here will never affect the sales of these models here. Most seem to forget these sites are geared more for the USA! Boy, I still send out loads of monthly lists to people who still don't have a computer!

As for new moulds, Could the first A300-600 Fedex be one?

hugo · 06-19-2006, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustPlaneCrazy

You have no idea what you're talking about, it is NOT the old BigBird mould as Andrew owns that mould!

Those 5-Star/BlueBalls/C&C are horrible......

Plus, the only reason they are releasing them is because those were the upcoming Aeroclassics/EuroClassics releases shown on the back of the last AC/EC release........so.....buy the junk now or wait a month or two for the real thing that was announced 6 months ago.....your choice!

do try and say something sensible - as usual you are embroidering the saying of Chairman AK - be nice if you could produce an individual statement of your own - too much to hope for of course because you simply rehash old and discredited statement of opinion as fact - sad sad sad

hugo · 06-19-2006, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aklein707

The Bae-146 BluNutz will shortly introduce to the delight of most Brits will be preceeded/followed (timing is critical) of another more superior Bae-146, as well as other British airframes, so they bring nothing new to the hobby!

If AeroClassics sales in the UK are declining, it's because more Brits are purchasing from abroad, as we are supplying less and less to UK based dealers, mostly due to their inability to pay invoices on a timely manner.

As you seem to know what Blue Box are going to produce perhaps you could tell us the liveries!

I would suggest the Aeroclassics sales are declining in the UK because you are producing too few "interesting liveries" - the last of yours was the BOAC (and very nice too) - assume that when the Super VC.10 appears and perhaps the Comet your sales will rocket - though by the sounds of it there won't be any UK dealers stocking it - again bad marketing practice.

aklein707 · 06-19-2006, 06:42 PM

Hugo, what exactly is your problem? A fact has been stated by 2 people as to the ownership of a specific mould; why is that open for debate? Why is it sad sad sad?

If some of you would just read the facts, accept them as facts (or challenge them with facts, not unproven innuendo) and move on without all the endless ranting like old ladies, then these boards would me more interesting to read!

aklein707 · 06-19-2006, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hugo

As you seem to know what Blue Box are going to produce perhaps you could tell us the liveries!

I would suggest the Aeroclassics sales are declining in the UK because you are producing too few "interesting liveries" - the last of yours was the BOAC (and very nice too) - assume that when the Super VC.10 appears and perhaps the Comet your sales will rocket - though by the sounds of it there won't be any UK dealers stocking it - again bad marketing practice.

I guess it is a bad marketing practice to not sell to companies who don't know how to pay their invoices in a timely manner! If I subscribed to that thought, I'd have gone into bankruptcy long ago; perhaps that is your hope though!

hugo · 06-19-2006, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aklein707

Hugo, what exactly is your problem? A fact has been stated by 2 people as to the ownership of a specific mould; why is that open for debate? Why is it sad sad sad?

If some of you would just read the facts, accept them as facts (or challenge them with facts, not unproven innuendo) and move on without all the endless ranting like old ladies, then these boards would me more interesting to read!

My problem is that you and a couple of idiots who seem to worship at your fee

06-17-2006, 09:44 AM	#2
Santos South American collector Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Brazil Age: 36 Posts: 2,838	Pardon my ignorance but I´ve never heard of 5 stars models. I also would like to know my folks comments about this release. __________________ Wish list in 1:400 scale: 1) BETA DC-8-70F (dedicated to Celso please) 2) PANAIR DO BRASIL DC-8 reg.# PP-PDS 3) VARIGLOG MD-11F & B727-100 / 200F 4) VARIG Caravelle 5) TRANSBRASIL 727-100 6) RIO-SUL 737-500 old colors Thank you Aeroclassics for the VARIG Coronados!

06-17-2006, 10:06 AM	#3
British Airways DAC Team Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Hamburg Posts: 2,916	Orginally 5 Stars was the succesor of Starjets and used to produce 1:500 scale models, but as of lately, they also do some 1:400 releases. The problem with those release is, that you're never know for certain what manufacturer it is until you've seen the model yourself or at least the box. As far as I can tell does this model uses the Blue Box 742 mould... Michael __________________ DiecastAircraftPhotos Models For Sale Michael Hoeltmann

06-17-2006, 01:48 PM	#6
BU767 Senior Collector Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 254	This model is on my "must have" list, but I will NOT buy anything released on Blue Box (or CC) models. What a shame, now none of the others probably won't release this model. AK, will you please come to our rescue? Harald (BU767) __________________ Give me a Braathens 767-200 already

06-17-2006, 02:06 PM	#7
aklein707 Former DAC member Join Date: Jul 1999 Posts: 3,654	Yes Harald, I will! The problem with the EuroClassics series, is that the back of the box portrays what's in the pipeline. It was safe for the 727s as nobody else would copy it, but a tactical error with the 747, as BluNutz/C&C I predict will be pumping out everything European asap. None-the-less, I hereby announce that the EuroClassics SAS B.747-200c is in the pipeline, and will be released soon!! Details in a different thread! __________________ Enjoying aviation from a "TSA-free Zone"!! Take the money-grab & deceit out of our hobby, and bring back ethics and quality!! Just say NO to BluBucks/Nutz Models/JC Models/Junk-X/First Choice/C&C/IF400/AV400/Magic/Blue Angle/5stars & any BigBirds (real or fake)

06-17-2006, 02:53 PM	#8
BU767 Senior Collector Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 254	Thanks Andrew, I will certainly wait and buy your version when it is released. Keep up the good work. Harald __________________ Give me a Braathens 767-200 already

06-17-2006, 12:28 PM	#4
SANNY-LAX Small Collector Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 480	Look at the engine, is not PW

06-19-2006, 09:16 AM	#9
olebno Junior Collector Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bodo, Norway Age: 65 Posts: 19	Super Andrew. Look forward to the -200c. What about the ...-.. ? While at it, I support Harald's need for Braathens 767-200. Braathens did operate a few types you should be able to assist us with: DC-6, F-27, B737-200/400/500. Ole B. __________________ Ole B

06-19-2006, 12:39 PM	#11
hugo Master Collector Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Channel Islands Posts: 920	at a higher price than Blue Box? - or is the idea to loss lead just to prove a point? Apart from the usual "I won't buy it even though I want it because the herd say not to" characters - I would suggest that this will sell out as it appears do most Blue Box - there's an old saying about sticking to the knitting - Aeroclassic are really good at "classical issues" so stay doing them - there's even competition building between GJ and AC now all because of this determination to prove a point - and getting nowhere. Hateful enough Todd?

06-19-2006, 01:19 PM	#12
aklein707 Former DAC member Join Date: Jul 1999 Posts: 3,654	Hugo, again, I refuse to back off of the use of MY 747 mould because certain pirates/bandits in HKG are out to make a quick buck of unsuspecting collectors. I PROMISE you that there will be SAS 747s in the near future, and alot better than the crap they are offering; cheaper too! If you would rather buy their crap, nobody is stopping you!! Just don't keep whining about me copying them, because I am not! I had the SAS logo on my 747 box 6 months ago, so this is typical of the "money grab" to push something inferior out first, when they know what I've got planned! __________________ Enjoying aviation from a "TSA-free Zone"!! Take the money-grab & deceit out of our hobby, and bring back ethics and quality!! Just say NO to BluBucks/Nutz Models/JC Models/Junk-X/First Choice/C&C/IF400/AV400/Magic/Blue Angle/5stars & any BigBirds (real or fake)

06-19-2006, 01:39 PM	#13
hugo Master Collector Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Channel Islands Posts: 920	AK I have never accused you of copying anybody - and have no belief that you have so done - what I was talking about was duplication of liveries - I have never suggested that your mould or the old 1:400 BB mould were inferior, what I have said is the Blue Box are continuously improving theirs, some of the earlier 1:400s were not good and as far as I am aware no-one has said any different, but they are getting better and they are selling well - just concentrate on what you are good at and let others make decisions on what they will or will not want to buy - it is not for you or your little coterie to demand others only buy your stuff. And since when were you cheaper? and compared to whom? Facts and figures please not raw bile all the time.

06-19-2006, 04:49 PM	#16
Arctic Wings Junior Collector Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 21	The Blue Box have been slow to catch on here in the UK but Aero C. sales have declined over time from all reports. The Blue Box Air Transat Tristar has just appeared and, holding one in my hands, can say it is excellent. They have, I am told, many new molds coming out one of which shall delight we English. It seems as though the SAS/Iberia/Qantas 747s announced under the name 5-Star may well be the old BigBird mold. The only problem with their first 747 (Garuda oc) was the blister packing, which I believe has been solved. Several smaller brand names shall start using it, or an identical knock off, as it has become available. Trade prices (you call it wholesale in America) for Blue Box are similar to AC 747s. The bottom line is we collectors buy what we fancy and don't really need to be badgered by other manufacturers posting in self interest. I rather think a lot of collectors don't care about the history/politics involved and should welcome competition. Isn't that the basis of America's success in business?

06-19-2006, 05:47 PM	#18
aklein707 Former DAC member Join Date: Jul 1999 Posts: 3,654	Sorry Mr. Arctic, the SAS/Iberia/Qantas are NOT off the old Big Bird mould, because that is now my mould, and I produce off that quality mould. 5-star is using a repackaged BluNutz/C&C mould, the most inferior in the hobby, hands down! The Bae-146 BluNutz will shortly introduce to the delight of most Brits will be preceeded/followed (timing is critical) of another more superior Bae-146, as well as other British airframes, so they bring nothing new to the hobby! If AeroClassics sales in the UK are declining, it's because more Brits are purchasing from abroad, as we are supplying less and less to UK based dealers, mostly due to their inability to pay invoices on a timely manner. __________________ Enjoying aviation from a "TSA-free Zone"!! Take the money-grab & deceit out of our hobby, and bring back ethics and quality!! Just say NO to BluBucks/Nutz Models/JC Models/Junk-X/First Choice/C&C/IF400/AV400/Magic/Blue Angle/5stars & any BigBirds (real or fake)

06-19-2006, 06:42 PM	#22
aklein707 Former DAC member Join Date: Jul 1999 Posts: 3,654	Hugo, what exactly is your problem? A fact has been stated by 2 people as to the ownership of a specific mould; why is that open for debate? Why is it sad sad sad? If some of you would just read the facts, accept them as facts (or challenge them with facts, not unproven innuendo) and move on without all the endless ranting like old ladies, then these boards would me more interesting to read! __________________ Enjoying aviation from a "TSA-free Zone"!! Take the money-grab & deceit out of our hobby, and bring back ethics and quality!! Just say NO to BluBucks/Nutz Models/JC Models/Junk-X/First Choice/C&C/IF400/AV400/Magic/Blue Angle/5stars & any BigBirds (real or fake)