Northwest B 707-351C N351US old colors (limited to 480 pcs)
Allegheny B 727-100 N7028U new colors (limited to 360 pcs)
US Air B 727-100 N753AL old colors (limited to 360 pcs)
British & Irish AeroClassics
Irish Aer Lingus B 707-320B EI-ANV new colors (limited to 480 pcs)
Latin Classics
Aerolineas Argentinas B 727-200 LV-MIO old colors (limited to 360 pcs)
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Don't think so! Very poor selection this time around!
A very poor selection for you and a very good selection for me. What I like about this month is that there is not 12 or 15 released. With regard to price. AeroClassics are worth what people are willing to pay for them. These will sell very well. I anticipate the NW will sell out as did the other 707 of the past. Aer Lingus is a very popular livery, as is the 707. That looks like a winner as well.
The Alleghney 727 that was released several months ago sold very well. Why would this one not follow suit? Alleghney has a large following as does US Air.
I'm looking forward to these and hope that one day a DC-8 might appear and that it not be a Canadian.
Rubbish would not waist my time and money on that over priced junk.
Carry on...............
Wow! This comment just shows how "young" in the mind some collectors really are. To use the word "rubbish" to describe these releases is not a matter of taste or opinion, it's a blatant lack of appreciation of a part of aviation history.
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May I presume "new colors" actually means 1980's o/c for the Aer Lingus?
Also, N351US is not a 707-320C. While it does have a cargo door, it is one of the world's few 707-320B/SCD's. It has no hat-rack doors, and has the early style of nose gear/doors. Unless there is some parts-swapping with the 720B, the Aeroclassics 707-320C mold will not match that plane. N356US and later were the -320C's in NW's fleet.
Wow! This comment just shows how "young" in the mind some collectors really are. To use the word "rubbish" to describe these releases is not a matter of taste or opinion, it's a blatant lack of appreciation of a part of aviation history.
You must understand that STAR ALLIANCE has only one agenda and it has nothing to do with aviation or collecting
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May I presume "new colors" actually means 1980's o/c for the Aer Lingus?
Also, N351US is not a 707-320C. While it does have a cargo door, it is one of the world's few 707-320B/SCD's. It has no hat-rack doors, and has the early style of nose gear/doors. Unless there is some parts-swapping with the 720B, the Aeroclassics 707-320C mold will not match that plane. N356US and later were the -320C's in NW's fleet.
351 was a 320B. I have a resin model of N351US in NWO livery that I picked up in Tokyo in the mid to late 1970s. Near the tail it does say "320 C" The differences are only subtle to the untrained eye which means most collectors will assume that it is a 320B. I think there are only about 5 320B manufactured in this version anyway and that NW owned them all. I have flown on N351US many times between PDX SEA and ANC and back. Cargo was carried in the port side of the first class section with seats on the starboard side. Often passengers would asl what was behind the wall Often the flight crew would respond, "It's a private club."
Lots of models/decals of NW 707's are marked as N351US and say "320C" by the tail----because the manufacturers just assume that's what it said because they think it was a 320C----plenty of them also put the non-existent hat-rack door on it too. There's a GREAT pic of N351US in Clint Grove's book "Jetliners", and it has 320B painted on it. (And there's no hatrack door)
And you are correct that there were only 5 of them. 351 through 355US. If the AC model is done right, it would be a very unique/interesting 707 to add to the collection. I believe NW sold them pretty early on.
I would love to get a photo of one of them with the LE flaps deployed, as that's a key 320B vs 320BAdv vs 320C feature, and I don't know how those 5 were built. It's closest to an early 320BAdv externally AFAIK, but I think strength/structure-wise it's lighter and more like a non-Adv 320B, despite being a combi/cargo variant.
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Look at *any* 707-320C. See the passenger door near the wing trailing edge? That's the hatrack door. Only -320C's have it, and all -320C's have it. It is THE identifying feature of the C's. While a main deck cargo door USUALLY means a C, it doesn't always. (As is the topic of this thread---NW had 320B's with the cargo door that are often mistaken for 320C's)
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Gotcha! Had seen that door many times but didn't realize what the term was
I Belive Termed In That Manner Because They Are Hinged At The Top. They Open Out & Upwards, Similar To The Cargo Door. Looks Like A Hat Rack When Opened.
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Yet another boring month of releases from Aeroclassics!
Way to keep completely ignoring the DC-8 mold, and where are these so called 20 brand new molds that have been so highly touted?
I think the opposite. I photographed them today and those photos are now posted on the 400SH forum. All 4 of the models have the polished metal bellys. All of them look very nice.
I agree that the DC-8 has been ignored. I'd like to see at least the DHL and another one as well. With that said I have noticed that as the months pass that the AeroClassics releases seem to be getting smaller in numbers. Perhaps a result of the current glut of models that are being force fed to the hobby currently.
If there were to be less made of something I'd rather it not be AeroClassics but rather something else less desireable. I forsee the demand for AeroClassics increasing as the supplies continue to decrease. Not a bad thing for those who are smart enough to buy them now.
Why does some of this sound hypocritical to me! Alright everyone loved it when SMA did the DC-9 of Alleghany / USAir. Now it is the opposite. Wierd world!
Why does some of this sound hypocritical to me! Alright everyone loved it when SMA did the DC-9 of Alleghany / USAir. Now it is the opposite. Wierd world!
No, just people with an agenda other than model collecting
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Why does some of this sound hypocritical to me! Alright everyone loved it when SMA did the DC-9 of Alleghany / USAir. Now it is the opposite. Wierd world!
If I were a trusting person I would proffer the theory that maybe, just maybe, one Allegheny in the collection is enough for those people.
But in reality, I agree, there is an agenda.
I for one will be getting the Allegheny and USAir versions, and probbaly the Northwest. I like this month of releases. Looks like I will be getting just a couple of things from a few of the manufacturers.
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If I were a trusting person I would proffer the theory that maybe, just maybe, one Allegheny in the collection is enough for those people.
But in reality, I agree, there is an agenda.
I for one will be getting the Allegheny and USAir versions, and probbaly the Northwest. I like this month of releases. Looks like I will be getting just a couple of things from a few of the manufacturers.
The only agenda I have compared to others is I collect models from who ever I want. Nor do I let anyone dictate what I buy! I think any hobby people have a choice. Some may get pissed at that but others are not my keeper nor am I someones lap dog. To let someone get under your skin here is to be childish. I learned my lesson of that years ago here. So I do what I want to do. No one is my keeper, except me!
The only agenda I have compared to others is I collect models from who ever I want. Nor do I let anyone dictate what I buy! I think any hobby people have a choice. Some may get pissed at that but others are not my keeper nor am I someones lap dog. To let someone get under your skin here is to be childish. I learned my lesson of that years ago here. So I do what I want to do. No one is my keeper, except me!
Just to be fair, I am not saying that you specifically have an agenda. I do believe there is a certain wing of the collectorate who will demean every release on the forum, but will also buy them. Why? I have no idea.
I also think there are people who criticize every release by a certain manufacturer. There are GJ bashers, there are plenty of DW and BB bashers, and of course there are AC bashers aplenty. Everyone is welcome to their opinions. But the appreciation shown for the previous Allegheny release and the lack thereof this time around is interesting.
I am 100% in agreement - buy what you want, criticize if you want, and basically, just be yourself. This is a hobby, not a religion. Plenty of room for individuality.
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Just to be fair, I am not saying that you specifically have an agenda. I do believe there is a certain wing of the collectorate who will demean every release on the forum, but will also buy them. Why? I have no idea.
I use to be that way! Now I really don't nor really have shown what I collect. But if on the most part is good I will buy it. It is good to see other collectors have the same outlook. These agenda people are more comical more I read it. Sort of like a really bad "Home Alone".
Monday
- Buy an AeroClassics and shake your Willy's hand while looking at the AeroClassics, all day long.
Tuesday
- Buy a Gemini and shake your Willy's hand while looking at the Gemini, all day long.
Wednesday
- Buy a Sovereign and shake your Willy's hand while looking at the Sovereign, all day long.
Thursday
- Buy an Phoenix and shake your Willy's hand while looking at the Phoenix, all day long.
Friday
- Buy an Dragon Wing and shake your Willy's hand while looking at the Dragon Wing, all day long.
Saturday
- Buy an Big Bird and shake your Willy's hand while looking at the Big Bird, all day long.
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- Go to www.diecastaircraftforum.com and read that Todd says you have the wrong kind of agenda. While he wrote that post he was deleting some on his 400SH wankforum, cause he is listed in the Guiness Book of Records, under most agendas in this entire hobby.
Why does some of this sound hypocritical to me! Alright everyone loved it when SMA did the DC-9 of Alleghany / USAir. Now it is the opposite. Wierd world!
While I cannot speak for the other collectors, I will point out the fact that the current issues of the subjects entail Boeing 721's. Now for me personally, I don't think that the Aeroclassics 721 mould is all that great...although SMA did borrow that mould for several of their own subjects, and I happen to have one SMA release on that mould (the SMA Air West triple pack) along with the Aeroclassics Fly Eastern. In both of these instances, I overlooked the overall mould quality because I liked the subject matter enough.
I have heard of other talk about the Aeroclassics 721 mould not being all that great and the need for an improvement in this area in 400. In your post, you cite the SMA DC-9's as subject matter...Different moulds which are recognized as being pretty darn good among collectors.
There you have it..no alleged agenda...just plane talk. And by the way, I looked on over at 400SH because I am curious as to what these models look like...but I guess they are on the Aeroclassics forum. Since I don't belong over there...kindly at least post them someplace where one can view them without being a member...a picture is worth a 1000 words.
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While I cannot speak for the other collectors, I will point out the fact that the current issues of the subjects entail Boeing 721's. Now for me personally, I don't think that the Aeroclassics 721 mould is all that great...although SMA did borrow that mould for several of their own subjects, and I happen to have one SMA release on that mould (the SMA Air West triple pack) along with the Aeroclassics Fly Eastern. In both of these instances, I overlooked the overall mould quality because I liked the subject matter enough.
I have heard of other talk about the Aeroclassics 721 mould not being all that great and the need for an improvement in this area in 400. In your post, you cite the SMA DC-9's as subject matter...Different moulds which are recognized as being pretty darn good among collectors.
There you have it..no alleged agenda...just plane talk. And by the way, I looked on over at 400SH because I am curious as to what these models look like...but I guess they are on the Aeroclassics forum. Since I don't belong over there...kindly at least post them someplace where one can view them without being a member...a picture is worth a 1000 words.
Here are the same photos at Eztoyz. As with the one who designed the LANICA last time the same person did these.
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While I cannot speak for the other collectors, I will point out the fact that the current issues of the subjects entail Boeing 721's. Now for me personally, I don't think that the Aeroclassics 721 mould is all that great...although SMA did borrow that mould for several of their own subjects, and I happen to have one SMA release on that mould (the SMA Air West triple pack) along with the Aeroclassics Fly Eastern. In both of these instances, I overlooked the overall mould quality because I liked the subject matter enough.
I have heard of other talk about the Aeroclassics 721 mould not being all that great and the need for an improvement in this area in 400. In your post, you cite the SMA DC-9's as subject matter...Different moulds which are recognized as being pretty darn good among collectors.
There you have it..no alleged agenda...just plane talk. And by the way, I looked on over at 400SH because I am curious as to what these models look like...but I guess they are on the Aeroclassics forum. Since I don't belong over there...kindly at least post them someplace where one can view them without being a member...a picture is worth a 1000 words.
I took the photos and could have posted them here but my upload quote was maxed months ago. I can upload nothing these days. This months AeroClassics have been posted and copyrighted by the 400SH Forum. If you can't view them there then you can view them on the EZToys webstore site.
I took the photos and could have posted them here but my upload quote was maxed months ago. I can upload nothing these days. This months AeroClassics have been posted and copyrighted by the 400SH Forum. If you can't view them there then you can view them on the EZToys webstore site.
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You can deleate old files out of your quota. Or if you don't want to deleate old photos you can use the Wings900 gallery and link back photos to here. Not such a hard thing to do.
You can deleate old files out of your quota. Or if you don't want to deleate old photos you can use the Wings900 gallery and link back photos to here. Not such a hard thing to do.
I looked for that option a few months ago and could not find it so I gave up. Why would I link photos from the Wings900 gallery? I would rather upload photos that I have taken, not someone elses.
I looked for that option a few months ago and could not find it so I gave up. Why would I link photos from the Wings900 gallery? I would rather upload photos that I have taken, not someone elses.
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You can upload your own photos free of charge in the Wings900 Gallery, so you can use that as storage and then link back photos instead of storing photos on each individual thread.
These are great releases. I know that many collectors agree because they are basically sold out. In case you haven't noticed AC has been reducing the number of models released and the quantity of individual releases because the market has become so flooded. Of course, many of the same collectors who have complained about the market being flooded will now complain that AC models are difficult to obtain. This is a difficult group to please. By the way, those who have complained about the dearth of DC-8s (including me) will soon have one less thing to compain about.
I agree with you, Santos, looking forward to the Aeroleanas 727 also Aer Lingus 707 and maybe some others.
You go, Andrew, keep bringing us the classics and those from Latin America, long an ignored (unjustly) part of commercial aviation history. I am old enough to have flown on many of the wonderful props you have offered so far, and look forward to new releases yet to come. One of my fondest memories was of a flight from KSDF to KEWR on an Eastern L 1049G "Super G Golden Falcon" (then new). Every time I glance at my model, I am filled with warm memories... Thanks, Andrew!
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