BA Sample models ???

ja-ck 1 · 09-28-2005, 09:18 AM

I have 7 BA 737-200 models in the world tails of poland, chelsea rose, delftblue, waves & cranes, ndebele martha, colum and one with an olympic team symbol.

Can anyone shed some light as to weather the models are standard production runs or if they are samples. Thanks for your help in advance.

ba777-236 · 09-28-2005, 11:39 AM

Well they aren't regular releases, that's for sure!

They are either samples, or custom models, which were made by a custom maker.. There were a number of BA customs around several years ago, though I sadly missed out on them .

diecast1964 · 09-28-2005, 03:30 PM

Chris/CPGM just had a few of these B732s offered in his liquidation sale. They were sold for $35. I have a complete World Tail fleet, but before Chris could give me any more info or pics on these models, they were sold. No clue where they come from, release quantities, quality,..

Jan

hugo · 09-28-2005, 04:34 PM

These were custom models - produced a few years ago in small numbers and very seldom offered - I am not sure who made them - but I envy you the Colum, Olympic and Ndebele in particular as I have the other four already, though the finish on one is somewhat lacking - they are transfers not tampo printing - if you ever want to sell, I have bought from you before -

Hugo

Hapag-Lloyd · 09-29-2005, 06:53 AM

A while ago, I bought a GJ 732 "Blue Poole" off eBay, and that one´s tampon printed.

ja-ck 1 · 09-29-2005, 08:04 AM

Thanks for all your help !

I have found out the models are done by gemini jets, but only a few were released.

hugo · 09-29-2005, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ja-ck 1

Thanks for all your help !

I have found out the models are done by gemini jets, but only a few were released.

I am not sure that is correct - have you confirmation from Gemini about this - the ones I have and others I have seen are certainly decalled and were not issued by Gemini - though the models may have been gemini hulls customised. Please confirm where you got this information - as far as I am aware Gemini have made four B737 - Bauhaus and Botswana, Blue Poole and Egypt - the last two having major undercarriage problems. If you in fact have gemini samples you are a very lucky fellow - but I remin unconvinced - evidence please

ja-ck 1 · 09-29-2005, 03:22 PM

Perhaps someone from gemini can shed some light on this. I remember a while back there were some gemini BA world tail 737-200's available through the airplane museum or tri-star world. There was a thread posted on DAC sometime ago but I'm having trouble finding it.

hugo · 09-29-2005, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ja-ck 1

Perhaps someone from gemini can shed some light on this. I remember a while back there were some gemini BA world tail 737-200's available through the airplane museum or tri-star world. There was a thread posted on DAC sometime ago but I'm having trouble finding it.

That's the story I heard as well - wish they'd made a few more - I now have three more aircraft to look for -

btw the Aeroclassics BOAC connie is wonderful

99GR81 · 09-30-2005, 09:58 AM

Chris Sands used to make these customs. I have quite a few of them myself. Chris was a corporate pilot who had a retail site and did customs. He did quite a few BAs including 757, 737, and 777 moulds.

He was selling them for $30-$40 depending. He has been out of the hobby for over two years.

Steve

ja-ck 1 · 10-03-2005, 09:50 AM

Thanks for all your help guys.

I now have the models to hand, and by looking at them very closely, they are custom models probably done by chris sands. All models are very impressive and nicely done and could almost pass for samples. They all come in white gemini jets boxes with each of the different tails stuck on each box.

Steven De Lisser · 10-03-2005, 10:05 AM

I can confirm that what you are saying is accurate. I saw a lot of his work yesterday at the YYZ Show (737s, 757s, 767s, 747s, A320s). He obviously has access to a very good printer and most spend an extraordinary amount of time ensuring no seam shows on the decal (to the untrained eye it looks like tampo printing).

Steven De Lisser

ZX1100F1 · 10-03-2005, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 99GR81

Chris Sands used to make these customs. I have quite a few of them myself. Chris was a corporate pilot who had a retail site and did customs.

I wish that I had his time to do spend decaling models.

Steven De Lisser · 10-03-2005, 01:38 PM

Until BA went after him (what I was told).

Steven De Lisser

Boeing 747 · 10-03-2005, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven De Lisser

Until BA went after him (what I was told).

Steven De Lisser

That was the same story I heard from whoever it was selling them yesterday too, I ended up buying a BA 767 "Chelsea Rose", and 757 "Sweden" from him. $85CAD total for both

Doug

hugo · 10-03-2005, 02:54 PM

Is he still selling BA customs and if so how can one get in touch with him - any email address?

Hugo

99GR81 · 10-03-2005, 09:59 PM

It sounds to me like someone else is now doing BA customs. As far as I know, Chris got out of the business because his corporate piloting duties got much busier. If you are seeing new BA customs, then methinks someone else is providing them. If so, I would like to know who, because I would like to place a large order.

Steve

Steven De Lisser · 10-03-2005, 10:12 PM

I think you may be wrong Steve.

The guy selling the models wasnt Chris - he was someone who owned an awful lot of the models Chris made and had decided to sell them. I believe he was selling them at a loss which wouldnt surprise me. I had a Gemini BA 777 Union Jack on my table all day and no one bit - price, $15 Canadian. The market is saturated.

Steven De Lisser

24r · 10-03-2005, 10:14 PM

These may have been from Chris as the seller stated he paid for them in USD from and the originator was being told by BA to stop making them.

Mark

99GR81 · 10-04-2005, 11:14 AM

Hmmm...I would love to find the seller.

S

Bigbird400 · 10-04-2005, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ja-ck 1

I have 7 BA 737-200 models in the world tails of poland, chelsea rose, delftblue, waves & cranes, ndebele martha, colum and one with an olympic team symbol.

Can anyone shed some light as to weather the models are standard production runs or if they are samples. Thanks for your help in advance.

I have a few custom BA Tails as well but these were from a company called New England Models but they went many years ago. Where they got them from I will never know. My best two are a B737-200 "South African" Tail and to top the best, A B757 in the "India" Tail. Quality is superb!

09-28-2005, 09:18 AM	#1
ja-ck 1 Junior Collector Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: WAREHAM Age: 23 Posts: 34	BA Sample models ??? I have 7 BA 737-200 models in the world tails of poland, chelsea rose, delftblue, waves & cranes, ndebele martha, colum and one with an olympic team symbol. Can anyone shed some light as to weather the models are standard production runs or if they are samples. Thanks for your help in advance.

09-28-2005, 11:39 AM	#2
ba777-236 400SH Co-Owner Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: About a 40 minute drive from Toronto, Canada Posts: 5,548	Well they aren't regular releases, that's for sure! They are either samples, or custom models, which were made by a custom maker.. There were a number of BA customs around several years ago, though I sadly missed out on them . __________________ Faheem Ahmed 400 Scale Hangar Maintained Websites

09-29-2005, 06:53 AM	#5
Hapag-Lloyd Insane Collector Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 2,288	A while ago, I bought a GJ 732 "Blue Poole" off eBay, and that one´s tampon printed. __________________ THIS SPACE 4 RENT!!!

09-30-2005, 09:58 AM	#10
99GR81 Airplane Junkie Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: New York, NY - The Home of The Brave...FDNY and NYPD Age: 40 Posts: 311	Chris Sands used to make these customs. I have quite a few of them myself. Chris was a corporate pilot who had a retail site and did customs. He did quite a few BAs including 757, 737, and 777 moulds. He was selling them for $30-$40 depending. He has been out of the hobby for over two years. Steve __________________ "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take." --Wayne Gretzky True Heroes - The Bravest and Finest - FDNY and NYPD

10-03-2005, 09:59 PM	#17
99GR81 Airplane Junkie Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: New York, NY - The Home of The Brave...FDNY and NYPD Age: 40 Posts: 311	It sounds to me like someone else is now doing BA customs. As far as I know, Chris got out of the business because his corporate piloting duties got much busier. If you are seeing new BA customs, then methinks someone else is providing them. If so, I would like to know who, because I would like to place a large order. Steve __________________ "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take." --Wayne Gretzky True Heroes - The Bravest and Finest - FDNY and NYPD

09-28-2005, 03:30 PM	#3
diecast1964 Senior Collector Join Date: Dec 2002 Age: 43 Posts: 218	Chris/CPGM just had a few of these B732s offered in his liquidation sale. They were sold for $35. I have a complete World Tail fleet, but before Chris could give me any more info or pics on these models, they were sold. No clue where they come from, release quantities, quality,.. Jan

09-28-2005, 04:34 PM	#4
hugo Master Collector Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Channel Islands Posts: 910	These were custom models - produced a few years ago in small numbers and very seldom offered - I am not sure who made them - but I envy you the Colum, Olympic and Ndebele in particular as I have the other four already, though the finish on one is somewhat lacking - they are transfers not tampo printing - if you ever want to sell, I have bought from you before - Hugo

09-29-2005, 08:04 AM	#6
ja-ck 1 Junior Collector Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: WAREHAM Age: 23 Posts: 34	Thanks for all your help ! I have found out the models are done by gemini jets, but only a few were released.

09-29-2005, 03:22 PM	#8
ja-ck 1 Junior Collector Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: WAREHAM Age: 23 Posts: 34	Perhaps someone from gemini can shed some light on this. I remember a while back there were some gemini BA world tail 737-200's available through the airplane museum or tri-star world. There was a thread posted on DAC sometime ago but I'm having trouble finding it.

10-03-2005, 09:50 AM	#11
ja-ck 1 Junior Collector Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: WAREHAM Age: 23 Posts: 34	Thanks for all your help guys. I now have the models to hand, and by looking at them very closely, they are custom models probably done by chris sands. All models are very impressive and nicely done and could almost pass for samples. They all come in white gemini jets boxes with each of the different tails stuck on each box.

10-03-2005, 10:05 AM	#12
Steven De Lisser Master Collector Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 771	I can confirm that what you are saying is accurate. I saw a lot of his work yesterday at the YYZ Show (737s, 757s, 767s, 747s, A320s). He obviously has access to a very good printer and most spend an extraordinary amount of time ensuring no seam shows on the decal (to the untrained eye it looks like tampo printing). Steven De Lisser

10-03-2005, 01:38 PM	#14
Steven De Lisser Master Collector Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 771	Until BA went after him (what I was told). Steven De Lisser

10-03-2005, 02:54 PM	#16
hugo Master Collector Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Channel Islands Posts: 910	Is he still selling BA customs and if so how can one get in touch with him - any email address? Hugo

10-03-2005, 10:12 PM	#18
Steven De Lisser Master Collector Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 771	I think you may be wrong Steve. The guy selling the models wasnt Chris - he was someone who owned an awful lot of the models Chris made and had decided to sell them. I believe he was selling them at a loss which wouldnt surprise me. I had a Gemini BA 777 Union Jack on my table all day and no one bit - price, $15 Canadian. The market is saturated. Steven De Lisser

10-03-2005, 10:14 PM	#19
24r Master Collector Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Mississauga, Ontario,Canada Age: 47 Posts: 766	These may have been from Chris as the seller stated he paid for them in USD from and the originator was being told by BA to stop making them. Mark __________________ Shop Aviation Delight. It all Starts Here >>> Aviation Delight

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10-04-2005, 11:14 AM	#20
99GR81 Airplane Junkie Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: New York, NY - The Home of The Brave...FDNY and NYPD Age: 40 Posts: 311	Hmmm...I would love to find the seller. S __________________ "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take." --Wayne Gretzky True Heroes - The Bravest and Finest - FDNY and NYPD