DW Varig MD-11 in a white box???

British Airways · 06-28-2005, 04:55 AM

While browsing through ebay I found a new DW Varig Brazil for quite a reasonable price. What makes me a little skeptic is the fact, that the seller sells this model, which is supposed to be new in an all-white box, instead of the usual DW box. Does anyone konw something about it or even got the model with a with box. Product number is DRW55326. Could it be that this one is the corporate release for Varig itself??? Looking forward to your answers. Any help is kindly appreciated.

sammyk · 06-28-2005, 05:50 AM

Are you talking about Toyhill? I picked up a JAL 777 from him and it was in a white box. Seems to be ok...the database here lists it but not with a regular (or complete) model number. For 10 bucks it fine by me.

British Airways · 06-28-2005, 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammyk

Are you talking about Toyhill? I picked up a JAL 777 from him and it was in a white box. Seems to be ok...the database here lists it but not with a regular (or complete) model number. For 10 bucks it fine by me.

Yes, it's Toyhill. Judging form the pic the model looks good and the price is very good, but why a white box instead of the usual one? Anyway, thanks for your answer.

kl729 · 06-28-2005, 09:07 AM

They could be sample models or sneaked items from the factory. I got a few on ebay from someone in China.

DC10-30_andreas · 06-28-2005, 10:12 AM

might be a gemini one. there was a edition from justplanes, a video with the gemini model. i bought this one in 99 and got the sole model again at dussedort airport. but it was (luckily) no dragon.

Gunship01 · 06-28-2005, 02:25 PM

Maybe it's the manufacturer known as "White Box".
We already have a Black and a Blue Box....
Isn't there a Green box company out there?

Santos · 06-28-2005, 10:51 PM

Hey British Airways,

Can you please inform me the link? I didn´t find it at e-bay.

Thanks in advance.

Otavio

sammyk · 06-28-2005, 11:31 PM

Otavio, look for the seller named toyhill_com.

I think this link might work: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQ...ZtoyhillQ5fcom

I think he's posted here before. Don't remember his username.

British Airways · 06-29-2005, 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Santos

Hey British Airways,

Can you please inform me the link? I didn´t find it at e-bay.

Thanks in advance.

Otavio

Hi Otavio,

here's the link to the ebay shop http://stores.ebay.com/Toyhill-com. What do you think??? I'm all over this model, it's great. But please, leave at least one for me

.

hkgdave · 06-29-2005, 05:02 AM

Some thoughts on the original question in this post; why the model comes in a white box and not the normal Dragon Wings packaging.....
I took a look at Toyhill's offerings and quite a few of his DW listings (I didn't bother with other brands) came with white boxes, not just the VARIG MD-11 that British Airways has his eye on.
HongKong is a sensational place to get these kind of models. I suppose it's because it's close to the factories. Maybe, if you knew your way around and spoke the language, Shenzhen, over the border where I believe the factories are, would be even better. There are dozens and possibly hundreds of places to buy diecast models in HK. Most are in not so easy to reach locations and very few specialise exclusively in airliners. There's one great little shop in Wanchai (close enough to the bars) that is primarily a paint store and sells Gemini and Herpa model planes as a sideline. Go figure!
Somewhere in all of this, some stock must get damaged, some outlets may go out of business, some may want to shift their older stock. Space in Hong Kong is at a premium because of the lack of it and because of the rents charged for it. Possibly Mr Toyhills has contacts, sources and local knowledge and gathers up some of this fallout and puts it on eBay for our benefit. His listings do seem to be older models. Possibly the original boxes have deteriorated in the horrible humidity in HK, after being stored in less than ideal conditions.
I wish I could get some white boxes for some of the models I've got without a box. I got a few samples that are just in plastic cradles and one or two other oddballs in the wrong boxes!

Santos · 06-29-2005, 07:55 PM

Hi British Airways,

The VARIG MD-11 is not a sample, it is a DW past release. Its reg. is # PP-VRG and I already have it in my collection. That´s a great model and I highly recomment it.

I do not know why Toyhill is offering it in a white box. Now I remember when I purchased it I received the model without box only with its inner plastic protection. And I also got it from a guy in HK.

Here you can see a link to this model: http://400scalehangar.net/database/v...el.php?id=1709

Hope it helps buddy.

Otavio

alpha608 · 06-30-2005, 08:14 PM

interesting model....

British Airways · 07-01-2005, 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Santos

Hi British Airways,

The VARIG MD-11 is not a sample, it is a DW past release. Its reg. is # PP-VRG and I already have it in my collection. That´s a great model and I highly recomment it.

I do not know why Toyhill is offering it in a white box. Now I remember when I purchased it I received the model without box only with its inner plastic protection. And I also got it from a guy in HK.

Here you can see a link to this model: http://400scalehangar.net/database/v...el.php?id=1709

Hope it helps buddy.

Otavio

The MD-11 in Varig's colors simply looks stunning. I'm not sure, whether to get this model from ebay, but I'll definitely have to get this one. Btw, there were sowe Varig Corporate releases from DW. I've heard they were available through Varig's frequent flyer programm. Is that correct?

Michael

Santos · 07-01-2005, 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by British Airways

The MD-11 in Varig's colors simply looks stunning. I'm not sure, whether to get this model from ebay, but I'll definitely have to get this one. Btw, there were sowe Varig Corporate releases from DW. I've heard they were available through Varig's frequent flyer programm. Is that correct?

Michael

Yes Michael. there is 3 VARIG corporate releases and they are very rare. All of them were released by DW in 2002 ( I am not 100% sure ). These corporate releases were offered to VARIG Rio-São Paulo Air bridge passengers to to VARIG Smiles frequent flyer program. At that time everytime you got the VARIG Air bridge between Rio and S.Paulo one model would be yours. For free! That´s a shame that at that time I didn´t collect aircraft models yet.

The models are a 762, MD-11 and a 733.

I got the MD-11 and the 762 and I suppose they will arrive here in the next week. As soon as they arrive here I will post pics of them.

Unfornatuly VARIG hasn´t it anymore, even for sale.

British Airways · 07-01-2005, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Santos

Yes Michael. there is 3 VARIG corporate releases and they are very rare. All of them were released by DW in 2002 ( I am not 100% sure ). These corporate releases were offered to VARIG Rio-São Paulo Air bridge passengers to to VARIG Smiles frequent flyer program. At that time everytime you got the VARIG Air bridge between Rio and S.Paulo one model would be yours. For free! That´s a shame that at that time I didn´t collect aircraft models yet.

The models are a 762, MD-11 and a 733.

I got the MD-11 and the 762 and I suppose they will arrive here in the next week. As soon as they arrive here I will post pics of them.

Unfornatuly VARIG hasn´t it anymore, even for sale.

That's bad news. My father is currently in Brazil and I asked him to look out for those Varig releases, as he flew with Varig from Frankfurt to Rio. Anyway, I'm looking forward to your pics. Great that you got those corporate releases.

Santos · 07-01-2005, 06:01 PM

Michael,

I have a great friend that is a VARIG MD-11 first officer and he is looking for these models to me, specially the 733. If he got the MD-11 or the 762 that I already have I will offer it to you. OK?

07-01-2005, 06:09 PM

There was a 733 on eBay a month or two ago that didn't sell for 49 or so.

Santos · 07-01-2005, 06:32 PM

That seller asked much more for the entire set. I offered $ 50.00 and he didn´t accept.

British Airways · 07-02-2005, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Santos

Michael,

I have a great friend that is a VARIG MD-11 first officer and he is looking for these models to me, specially the 733. If he got the MD-11 or the 762 that I already have I will offer it to you. OK?

Thanks a lot, that would be great.
Michael

06-28-2005, 04:55 AM	#1
British Airways DAC Team Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Hamburg Posts: 2,880	DW Varig MD-11 in a white box??? While browsing through ebay I found a new DW Varig Brazil for quite a reasonable price. What makes me a little skeptic is the fact, that the seller sells this model, which is supposed to be new in an all-white box, instead of the usual DW box. Does anyone konw something about it or even got the model with a with box. Product number is DRW55326. Could it be that this one is the corporate release for Varig itself??? Looking forward to your answers. Any help is kindly appreciated. __________________ DiecastAircraftPhotos Models For Sale Michael Hoeltmann

06-28-2005, 02:25 PM	#6
Gunship01 Lufthansa Skyshark Join Date: May 2000 Location: San Diego Age: 45 Posts: 1,400	Maybe it's the manufacturer known as "White Box". We already have a Black and a Blue Box.... Isn't there a Green box company out there? __________________ Now where's that 747-400 club? More Lufthansa and Virgin Atlantic 744s!! By all that is holy.... MORE JET BLUE AND US AIRWAYS(NC)!!

06-28-2005, 10:51 PM	#7
Santos South American collector Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Brazil Age: 36 Posts: 2,755	Hey British Airways, Can you please inform me the link? I didn´t find it at e-bay. Thanks in advance. Otavio __________________ Wish list in 1:400 scale: 1) BETA DC-8-70F (dedicated to Celso please) 2) PANAIR DO BRASIL DC-8 reg.# PP-PDS 3) VARIGLOG MD-11F & B727-100 / 200F 4) VARIG Caravelle 5) TRANSBRASIL 727-100 6) RIO-SUL 737-500 old colors Thank you Aeroclassics for the VARIG Coronados!

06-29-2005, 07:55 PM	#11
Santos South American collector Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Brazil Age: 36 Posts: 2,755	Hi British Airways, The VARIG MD-11 is not a sample, it is a DW past release. Its reg. is # PP-VRG and I already have it in my collection. That´s a great model and I highly recomment it. I do not know why Toyhill is offering it in a white box. Now I remember when I purchased it I received the model without box only with its inner plastic protection. And I also got it from a guy in HK. Here you can see a link to this model: http://400scalehangar.net/database/v...el.php?id=1709 Hope it helps buddy. Otavio __________________ Wish list in 1:400 scale: 1) BETA DC-8-70F (dedicated to Celso please) 2) PANAIR DO BRASIL DC-8 reg.# PP-PDS 3) VARIGLOG MD-11F & B727-100 / 200F 4) VARIG Caravelle 5) TRANSBRASIL 727-100 6) RIO-SUL 737-500 old colors Thank you Aeroclassics for the VARIG Coronados!

06-30-2005, 08:14 PM	#12
alpha608 Insane Collector Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,135	interesting model.... __________________ "One by one the penguins steal my sanity"

06-28-2005, 05:50 AM	#2
sammyk Insane Collector Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Austin, TX Age: 34 Posts: 1,316	Are you talking about Toyhill? I picked up a JAL 777 from him and it was in a white box. Seems to be ok...the database here lists it but not with a regular (or complete) model number. For 10 bucks it fine by me.

06-28-2005, 09:07 AM	#4
kl729 Insane Collector Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Melbourne VIC Australia Posts: 1,254	They could be sample models or sneaked items from the factory. I got a few on ebay from someone in China.

06-28-2005, 10:12 AM	#5
DC10-30_andreas Senior Collector Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: herne, germany Age: 43 Posts: 249	might be a gemini one. there was a edition from justplanes, a video with the gemini model. i bought this one in 99 and got the sole model again at dussedort airport. but it was (luckily) no dragon.

06-28-2005, 11:31 PM	#8
sammyk Insane Collector Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Austin, TX Age: 34 Posts: 1,316	Otavio, look for the seller named toyhill_com. I think this link might work: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQ...ZtoyhillQ5fcom I think he's posted here before. Don't remember his username.

06-29-2005, 05:02 AM	#10
hkgdave Back in the labour pool Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sultanate of Oman Age: 58 Posts: 249	Some thoughts on the original question in this post; why the model comes in a white box and not the normal Dragon Wings packaging..... I took a look at Toyhill's offerings and quite a few of his DW listings (I didn't bother with other brands) came with white boxes, not just the VARIG MD-11 that British Airways has his eye on. HongKong is a sensational place to get these kind of models. I suppose it's because it's close to the factories. Maybe, if you knew your way around and spoke the language, Shenzhen, over the border where I believe the factories are, would be even better. There are dozens and possibly hundreds of places to buy diecast models in HK. Most are in not so easy to reach locations and very few specialise exclusively in airliners. There's one great little shop in Wanchai (close enough to the bars) that is primarily a paint store and sells Gemini and Herpa model planes as a sideline. Go figure! Somewhere in all of this, some stock must get damaged, some outlets may go out of business, some may want to shift their older stock. Space in Hong Kong is at a premium because of the lack of it and because of the rents charged for it. Possibly Mr Toyhills has contacts, sources and local knowledge and gathers up some of this fallout and puts it on eBay for our benefit. His listings do seem to be older models. Possibly the original boxes have deteriorated in the horrible humidity in HK, after being stored in less than ideal conditions. I wish I could get some white boxes for some of the models I've got without a box. I got a few samples that are just in plastic cradles and one or two other oddballs in the wrong boxes!

07-01-2005, 06:01 PM	#16
Santos South American collector Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Brazil Age: 36 Posts: 2,755	Michael, I have a great friend that is a VARIG MD-11 first officer and he is looking for these models to me, specially the 733. If he got the MD-11 or the 762 that I already have I will offer it to you. OK? __________________ Wish list in 1:400 scale: 1) BETA DC-8-70F (dedicated to Celso please) 2) PANAIR DO BRASIL DC-8 reg.# PP-PDS 3) VARIGLOG MD-11F & B727-100 / 200F 4) VARIG Caravelle 5) TRANSBRASIL 727-100 6) RIO-SUL 737-500 old colors Thank you Aeroclassics for the VARIG Coronados!

07-01-2005, 06:09 PM	#17
JohnnyB Guest Posts: n/a	There was a 733 on eBay a month or two ago that didn't sell for 49 or so.

07-01-2005, 06:32 PM	#18
Santos South American collector Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Brazil Age: 36 Posts: 2,755	That seller asked much more for the entire set. I offered $ 50.00 and he didn´t accept. __________________ Wish list in 1:400 scale: 1) BETA DC-8-70F (dedicated to Celso please) 2) PANAIR DO BRASIL DC-8 reg.# PP-PDS 3) VARIGLOG MD-11F & B727-100 / 200F 4) VARIG Caravelle 5) TRANSBRASIL 727-100 6) RIO-SUL 737-500 old colors Thank you Aeroclassics for the VARIG Coronados!

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