American peeple buying Toy are all suckers!

JOHN JOHNSON · 06-10-2005, 11:38 PM

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Ya'll think Toyota are so superior and here comes, This is the what yall are getting!

My best advice...... Buy a Chevrolet and be a patriot to your country that you would benefit unlike what Toyota would offer.

A Tupolev · 06-11-2005, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by JOHN JOHNSON

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8170340/

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Ya'll think Toyota are so superior and here comes, This is the what yall are getting!

My best advice...... Buy a Chevrolet and be a patriot to your country that you would benefit unlike what Toyota would offer.

Most Toyotas are built in the USA. So lets shut those Toyota factories down so we have more Americans on unemployment.

Now that's Patriotic!

Gunship01 · 06-11-2005, 12:06 AM

Sorry, the RAV4 is a great car. The Explorer wasn't doing me much good at only 19-22 mpg. We won't talk about the service.

Not to let all think I have completely forgone US products, the Harley-Davidson in the garage is a true work of art!

TWALOVER · 06-11-2005, 12:07 PM

American cars suck. Plain and simple. The only people that buy them are suckers. And those in charge at Ford, GM and Chystler know it.

DavidMich · 06-11-2005, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by A Tupolev

Most Toyotas are built in the USA.

Wrong! They, along with BMW, Mercedes/Benz, and Honda, are (ready for this?) assembled here in the US. They still get made overseas, they just don't put em' together. And US auto makers do it too. For example, Ford F-150, 95% made, and assembled in the USA, Chrysler Crossfire, only 5% made in USA.

DavidMich · 06-11-2005, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TWALOVER

American cars suck. Plain and simple. The only people that buy them are suckers. And those in charge at Ford, GM and Chystler know it.

Mine doesn't, and If me buying it makes me a sucker, than you can go fuck yourself, because it's 10x more reliable than the POS toyotas the other 2 members of my family own.

JOHN JOHNSON · 06-11-2005, 02:33 PM

Ask yourself that question. Where do your hard earn money goes to?

Another question: Toyota announced hikes, what does that message really meant? Too many questions araising.

End of question: Are we investing to support U.S. workers to live on a minimum wages while people at Toyota in Japan are enjoying? or Are we going to see from quality-issues to money-issues soon? (Really, I would like to know what the exact purpose are Toyota actually plan to invest from those hikes? Such to compensate materials etc does not convenice me at all.)

Time will tell.

chrypopr · 06-11-2005, 04:25 PM

UAW will not agreed into closing down jap car plants in the US. Most Japanese car has partnership with US car makers. e.g. Ford with Mazda and Volvo, Pontiac and Chevy with Toyota. All US car makers have stakes in foreign car makers including European.
To be honest, the worst car was the Yogo. There you have it, don't matter who makes the car, as long as it's a good car. If German's or Japanese car companies are doing good, so it's the global economy, Macro and Micro. Econ 101.........

Korean's Hyundai Tiburon is the best.....

A Tupolev · 06-12-2005, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DavidMich

Wrong! They, along with BMW, Mercedes/Benz, and Honda, are (ready for this?) assembled here in the US. They still get made overseas, they just don't put em' together. And US auto makers do it too. For example, Ford F-150, 95% made, and assembled in the USA, Chrysler Crossfire, only 5% made in USA.

I don't know why I'm getting into this debate with someone who is obvously a socialist, but sometimes debating with liberal idiots is fun.

The information you are posting here you must be pulling out of your rear. 76% of the parts used to "produce" Toyotas are manufactured within 400 miles of its three US plants by American workers. Here is just one of the many articles that back up this information:

http://recenter.tamu.edu/tgrande/vol10-4/1635.html

Toyota has also announced plans for investment in more American factories including two new engine plants. Here a portion of another article:

The two proposed plants represent more than $1 billion in investment by Toyota-$700 million in Indiana and $400 million in West Virginia. About 1,300 jobs are expected at the truck plant and another 300 are expected at the engine plant.

Toyota President Hiroshi Okuda, who was on hand for ceremonies at all three locations, says that when the two newest plants are fully up to speed Toyota will be building 1.2 million vehicles and 800,000 engines annually in North America.

Here is the link to the whole article:

http://waw.wardsauto.com/ar/auto_toyota_announces_new/

Toyota is investing billions of dollars into the US and employing tens of thousands of Americans. Do a google search and you will find lots of data.

I'm proud to say I'm a conservative capitalist beliver in free enterprise and free trade. If Toyota can produce a better product that consumers want and can manage their factories more efficiently, more power to them. And even better if they are employing Americans and pumping billions into our economy. It seems that you socialist would like to restrict this free enterprise to protect poorly managed companies like GM.

Chief Mud-From-Bum · 06-12-2005, 12:10 AM

What in the hell is a Yogo?

Tracon Doug · 06-12-2005, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by chrypopr

Korean's Hyundai Tiburon is the best.....

Oh please.....

justin · 06-12-2005, 08:51 AM

Yo JJ, if you hate foreign car companies and will never buy one then fair enough, that's your right, but if you really think Japanese cars are junk and people who buy them are suckers I have to say I think you're a bit wide of the mark on this one

I've spent a lot of time driving the Toyota Land Cruiser (of various incarnations) and Nissan Patrol where there are no roads and where vehicles are really tested and both were superb, totally reliable and capable of getting through almost anything, if either of those can't get through then you need a helicopter

Justin

JOHN JOHNSON · 06-12-2005, 11:57 AM

Justin, No I do not hate Toys. But HONDA do sucks as hell. Worst than Toys if you look real hard. What sad is that American people do not realize who they are helping? U.S. or Japan? I do not also hate Japan too! People are awesome! Unfortunately their cars do not fit me.

Their seats is too hard for my fat *** to have a complete relief. It numbs after the second I sit! I rather have a softy comfy couch that are included such as Town Car, Caprice, Customized vans, etc......

Back to money-issues as Toyota clearly stated their concerns. I just cracked myself up and knowing what to except of what may will happen soon! :

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Suppose if bad thing happen to U.S. ecomony and I would not feel guilty because yall can look what I have on driveway.

Otherwise I would crack much harder if Toys or HONDA throw pies on customers' face.

No wonder why our parents and grandparents, including, President Ronald Reagan, are/were smart enough to buy U.S. made. Now, our generations are buying imports and still asleep that job is not affecting them UNTIL it hits them. Sad.

Now should we discuss, How young people can afford such as $200,000+ mortgage with income of such as "$10" an hour!

or Californian paying $500,000+ mortgage with income such as "$20" an hour!?!?

Get the drift what I am trying to mean? That point is my major concern for our future here in this country, or am I just the only one who is too crazy to have such concern for my 300,000,000 babies in here?

Kozmania · 06-12-2005, 12:47 PM

TOKYO - Toyota Motor Corp. is preparing to raise prices of its new cars in the United States by an average 2 percent to 3 percent in October out of consideration to its struggling U.S. rivals, the Asahi daily said on Friday.

Funny... I would rather pay 2-3% more for a Toyota than to buy an American made car and know that I'd be in the shop 100% more of the time.

Let's put it in terms of diecast. If Gemini Jets raised their prices 2-3% out of consideration to Dragon, would you stop buying Gemini?

A VERY HAPPY Toyota owner.

N2272V · 06-12-2005, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TWALOVER

American cars suck. Plain and simple. The only people that buy them are suckers. And those in charge at Ford, GM and Chystler know it.

Another mental midget posting from the dumbass ranks.

Carry on!

Piston 52 Heavy · 06-12-2005, 02:55 PM

Living in a suburb of Detroit, I won't say how I feel about rice burners. My father retired from Ford, I have a cousin that works for General Motors and a neighbor that retired from Chrysler. I've had two Ford Ranger 4X4s and never had a problem with them. I'm not too sure about these people that say Japanese made cars are better. All car companies, Japanese and American made, have had recalls and their share of problems. Personally, I will never buy a Japanese made car.

psalover · 06-12-2005, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidMich

Wrong! They, along with BMW, Mercedes/Benz, and Honda, are (ready for this?) assembled here in the US. They still get made overseas, they just don't put em' together. And US auto makers do it too. For example, Ford F-150, 95% made, and assembled in the USA, Chrysler Crossfire, only 5% made in USA.

David,I would really consider reading up on your car stuff,You look like a real dumb A.S.S. when you say stuff you have no clue about.

For all of you who really want to know.Honda,and Toyota's Are manufacturerd here in the U.S. The Steel comes from U.S. Steel plants,The seats are made in the U.S. 95% of A Honda or Toyota are actually built right here in the U.S.The only parts of these cars that are built in Japan are the Motors,Transmissions,and some electronics.Infact a huge part of toyota's electronics are made from Delco.The same Delco that makes parts for your beloved GM's.
Chrysler on the other hand are making full sized trucks,including the manufacturing of SOME parts in....Where?????? MEXICO.
Bottom line.Say goodbye to GM,there going under,or at least will need a government bailout in the next 5 years like Chrysler did in the early 80's.
As for Honda and Toyota.They are going strong,putting money back into the environment.Honda is the leader in having the "Greenest" Facilities in the U.S. Thay also make a car that will last.I worked for both companies as a sales consultant,and had to learn the diffrence,and why everybody should own a Honda.Trust me it wasn't hard.My 1994 Honda Accord has over 230,000 miles,and still runs like a top.(knock on wood

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So please save your Fingures,and type about what you do know about little toy airplanes,you to Johnny.

JustPlaneCrazy · 06-12-2005, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by psalover

David,You look like a real dumb A.S.S.

Can't argue with you here....

Hapag-Lloyd · 06-12-2005, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by N2272V

Another mental midget posting from the dumbass ranks.

Carry on!

Heeeey!!! Jimbo´s back!

Just food for thought: how many US auto parts are made outside the US - like Mexico, or Puerto Rico, or Asia (navigational systems or misc, electronics)?

A big whoopedy-Carry On!

DavidMich · 06-12-2005, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by psalover

David,I would really consider reading up on your car stuff,You look like a real dumb A.S.S. when you say stuff you have no clue about.

For all of you who really want to know.Honda,and Toyota's Are manufacturerd here in the U.S. The Steel comes from U.S. Steel plants,The seats are made in the U.S. 95% of A Honda or Toyota are actually built right here in the U.S.The only parts of these cars that are built in Japan are the Motors,Transmissions,and some electronics.Infact a huge part of toyota's electronics are made from Delco.The same Delco that makes parts for your beloved GM's.
Chrysler on the other hand are making full sized trucks,including the manufacturing of SOME parts in....Where?????? MEXICO.
Bottom line.Say goodbye to GM,there going under,or at least will need a government bailout in the next 5 years like Chrysler did in the early 80's.
As for Honda and Toyota.They are going strong,putting money back into the environment.Honda is the leader in having the "Greenest" Facilities in the U.S. Thay also make a car that will last.I worked for both companies as a sales consultant,and had to learn the diffrence,and why everybody should own a Honda.Trust me it wasn't hard.My 1994 Honda Accord has over 230,000 miles,and still runs like a top.(knock on wood

)
So please save your Fingures,and type about what you do know about little toy airplanes,you to Johnny.

Blah Blah, yada yada yada!

psalover · 06-12-2005, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidMich

Blah Blah, yada yada yada!

Oh,thats real smart.I guess Todd was right about you.

richie154 · 06-12-2005, 06:54 PM

My family all drives American-made vechiles, namely Jeeps. I have to say that when it comes to 4x4s, no way in hell do I feel safe in a Toyota or Honda wannabe 4x4. Gimmie a classic Jeep Cherokee with it's 4.0 straight 6 any day!

Now, I drive a Plymouth Breeze, and right now it has 126000+ miles on it. It's a good car but it's been somewhat MX intensive. I had a transmission failure about 9 months ago and the car was laid up for about 2-3 weeks or so, costing at least $2000.

psalover · 06-12-2005, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by richie154

My family all drives American-made vechiles, namely Jeeps. I have to say that when it comes to 4x4s, no way in hell do I feel safe in a Toyota or Honda wannabe 4x4. Gimmie a classic Jeep Cherokee with it's 4.0 straight 6 any day!

Now, I drive a Plymouth Breeze, and right now it has 126000+ miles on it. It's a good car but it's been somewhat MX intensive. I had a transmission failure about 9 months ago and the car was laid up for about 2-3 weeks or so, costing at least $2000.

Richie,I'm Glad that you have had great look with your American Made cars,but facts are facts,Consumer Reports ( a magazine from the consumer for the Consumer)Reports the the Japaneese auto's have better reliability the the Top 3 American made auto'

06-10-2005, 11:38 PM	#1
JOHN JOHNSON Mysterious Collector Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,196	American peeple buying Toy are all suckers! http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8170340/ :: !!! Ya'll think Toyota are so superior and here comes, This is the what yall are getting! My best advice...... Buy a Chevrolet and be a patriot to your country that you would benefit unlike what Toyota would offer. __________________ Who should I consider? Dumbocrat Clinton or Ruptublican Johnny Mc Cain? Jimmy Mc Donald Help me! Last edited by JOHN JOHNSON; 06-10-2005 at 11:39 PM.

06-11-2005, 12:06 AM	#3
Gunship01 Lufthansa Skyshark Join Date: May 2000 Location: San Diego Age: 45 Posts: 1,399	Sorry, the RAV4 is a great car. The Explorer wasn't doing me much good at only 19-22 mpg. We won't talk about the service. Not to let all think I have completely forgone US products, the Harley-Davidson in the garage is a true work of art! __________________ Now where's that 747-400 club? More Lufthansa and Virgin Atlantic 744s!! By all that is holy.... MORE JET BLUE AND US AIRWAYS(NC)!!

06-11-2005, 02:33 PM	#7
JOHN JOHNSON Mysterious Collector Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,196	Toyota loyalists, Ask yourself that question. Where do your hard earn money goes to? Another question: Toyota announced hikes, what does that message really meant? Too many questions araising. End of question: Are we investing to support U.S. workers to live on a minimum wages while people at Toyota in Japan are enjoying? or Are we going to see from quality-issues to money-issues soon? (Really, I would like to know what the exact purpose are Toyota actually plan to invest from those hikes? Such to compensate materials etc does not convenice me at all.) Time will tell. __________________ Who should I consider? Dumbocrat Clinton or Ruptublican Johnny Mc Cain? Jimmy Mc Donald Help me!

06-11-2005, 04:25 PM	#8
chrypopr Bootleg CX collectors Join Date: May 2003 Age: 32 Posts: 93	UAW will not agreed into closing down jap car plants in the US. Most Japanese car has partnership with US car makers. e.g. Ford with Mazda and Volvo, Pontiac and Chevy with Toyota. All US car makers have stakes in foreign car makers including European. To be honest, the worst car was the Yogo. There you have it, don't matter who makes the car, as long as it's a good car. If German's or Japanese car companies are doing good, so it's the global economy, Macro and Micro. Econ 101......... Korean's Hyundai Tiburon is the best..... __________________ "some comes before others"

06-12-2005, 11:57 AM	#13
JOHN JOHNSON Mysterious Collector Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,196	No, Not hate Toys! Justin, No I do not hate Toys. But HONDA do sucks as hell. Worst than Toys if you look real hard. What sad is that American people do not realize who they are helping? U.S. or Japan? I do not also hate Japan too! People are awesome! Unfortunately their cars do not fit me. Their seats is too hard for my fat *** to have a complete relief. It numbs after the second I sit! I rather have a softy comfy couch that are included such as Town Car, Caprice, Customized vans, etc...... Back to money-issues as Toyota clearly stated their concerns. I just cracked myself up and knowing what to except of what may will happen soon! :: Suppose if bad thing happen to U.S. ecomony and I would not feel guilty because yall can look what I have on driveway. Otherwise I would crack much harder if Toys or HONDA throw pies on customers' face. No wonder why our parents and grandparents, including, President Ronald Reagan, are/were smart enough to buy U.S. made. Now, our generations are buying imports and still asleep that job is not affecting them UNTIL it hits them. Sad. Now should we discuss, How young people can afford such as $200,000+ mortgage with income of such as "$10" an hour! or Californian paying $500,000+ mortgage with income such as "$20" an hour!?!? Get the drift what I am trying to mean? That point is my major concern for our future here in this country, or am I just the only one who is too crazy to have such concern for my 300,000,000 babies in here? __________________ Who should I consider? Dumbocrat Clinton or Ruptublican Johnny Mc Cain? Jimmy Mc Donald Help me!

06-11-2005, 12:07 PM	#4
TWALOVER space cadet Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Berkeley, CA Posts: 720	American cars suck. Plain and simple. The only people that buy them are suckers. And those in charge at Ford, GM and Chystler know it.

06-12-2005, 12:10 AM	#10
Chief Mud-From-Bum Seriously Demented Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Neverland Ranch Posts: 107	What in the hell is a Yogo?

06-12-2005, 08:51 AM	#12
justin Insane Collector Join Date: Feb 2000 Posts: 2,005	Yo JJ, if you hate foreign car companies and will never buy one then fair enough, that's your right, but if you really think Japanese cars are junk and people who buy them are suckers I have to say I think you're a bit wide of the mark on this one I've spent a lot of time driving the Toyota Land Cruiser (of various incarnations) and Nissan Patrol where there are no roads and where vehicles are really tested and both were superb, totally reliable and capable of getting through almost anything, if either of those can't get through then you need a helicopter Justin

06-12-2005, 12:47 PM	#14
Kozmania Retro "West Coaster" Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Chicago Age: 38 Posts: 398	TOKYO - Toyota Motor Corp. is preparing to raise prices of its new cars in the United States by an average 2 percent to 3 percent in October out of consideration to its struggling U.S. rivals, the Asahi daily said on Friday. Funny... I would rather pay 2-3% more for a Toyota than to buy an American made car and know that I'd be in the shop 100% more of the time. Let's put it in terms of diecast. If Gemini Jets raised their prices 2-3% out of consideration to Dragon, would you stop buying Gemini? A VERY HAPPY Toyota owner. __________________ Switching to departure - Good day... Kozmania Aircraft at the "Casa de Koz" http://www.wings900.com/modeldatabas...ic.php?id=2871

06-12-2005, 02:55 PM	#16
Piston 52 Heavy Master Collector Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Michigan Posts: 755	Living in a suburb of Detroit, I won't say how I feel about rice burners. My father retired from Ford, I have a cousin that works for General Motors and a neighbor that retired from Chrysler. I've had two Ford Ranger 4X4s and never had a problem with them. I'm not too sure about these people that say Japanese made cars are better. All car companies, Japanese and American made, have had recalls and their share of problems. Personally, I will never buy a Japanese made car. __________________ Ted Kennedy's driving has killed more people than my hand gun!

06-12-2005, 06:54 PM	#22
richie154 Retired Hookah Master Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Valley of Heart's Delight Age: 23 Posts: 3,711	My family all drives American-made vechiles, namely Jeeps. I have to say that when it comes to 4x4s, no way in hell do I feel safe in a Toyota or Honda wannabe 4x4. Gimmie a classic Jeep Cherokee with it's 4.0 straight 6 any day! Now, I drive a Plymouth Breeze, and right now it has 126000+ miles on it. It's a good car but it's been somewhat MX intensive. I had a transmission failure about 9 months ago and the car was laid up for about 2-3 weeks or so, costing at least $2000. __________________ The Devil can cite Scripture for his purpose. An evil soul producing holy witness is like a villian with a smiling cheek, a goodly apple rotten at the heart. Oh, what a goodly outside falsehood hath! Private Pilot: 10/20/2005 Private Multi Engine: 05/09/2008 The more things change, the more Mesa still sucks.