The new Gemini Select Air Florida DC-10 beuatiful but wrong!

jjorgemiami · 04-22-2005, 11:50 PM

The new Gemini Select Air Florida DC-10 is beautiful, however it is wrong.

The Air Florida DC-10s that carried the Air Florida or close to it scheme, were actually leased from TransAmerica and the green, were that TransAmerica aqua green not the green green of Air Florida. Others were World Airways and Icelandair schemes with QH titles. Gemini could actually do the World/Air Florida DC-10 quite easily, since it has already sone the World DC-10.

See this pictures below of the modeled aircradt N103TV and sister ship N102TV.

David Hingtgen · 04-23-2005, 12:21 AM

Yeah, this was brought up long before the TransAmerica DC-10 was even released. The real DC-10's were little more than 100% TransAmerica teal and blue with a bit more blue added to the cockpit roof. No need to repaint the whole plane in a slightly different scheme with different shades. It's coincidence/luck that Air Florida's scheme was similar, and many people presume they were actually repainted. Also made it easy to send back to the lessor, since they only need to remove that blue paint up front and re-title. The odds of two different airlines having "swooping at the tail" green/blue schemes at the same time...

Makes you wonder---did Air Florida pick TransAmerica to lease from to save on painting costs (since they didn't need to repaint) or was it sheer coincidence?

Kind of ironic, since I presume this error was brought about by GJ using authentic Air Florida colors---which in this case would be wrong, they needed to use the colors they used on their previous TransAmerica 747 release.

JOHN JOHNSON · 04-23-2005, 12:33 AM

By looking at "T" logo as it belongs Transamerica Airline. (If you have 747 on hand or look at pics.) Also by looking at "F" as Florida....

It do looks almost very similar! I wonder whether "Air Florida" livery or logo was designed by the same company that designed Transamerica, United (I think) and other airliners?

Maybe CraigH can help?

What a coincidence.

JOHN JOHNSON · 04-23-2005, 12:37 AM

Due to two different picture shade as one looks like outdate or low quality picture comparing to the other one? or could it be shade affect to the picture? (ie: sunshine toward camera?)

It looks so G-R-E-A-T! Grab one while you can!

You won't regret!

jjorgemiami · 04-24-2005, 12:00 AM

No John, it's not a lighting effect. I saw them in person, back then.

You see the teal/aqua green on the Transamerica logo on you avatar?

That is the green that was on the Air Florida DC-10 that were leased from Transaamerica.

They just painted the blue line on the top part of the fuselage and up half the tail and added the QH logo and titles. But kept the original teal green from the TV scheme. Gemini used the Air Florida green, that they had on the B737s and B727s. So unfortunately they got it wrong. Even though the model is beautiful, it is not an accurate depiction of the planes as they really were.

It's too bad manufacturers do not ask those that know, when venturing to build something they aren't familiar with!

JOHN JOHNSON · 04-24-2005, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jjorgemiami

No John, it's not a lighting effect. I saw them in person, back then.

You see the teal/aqua green on the Transamerica logo on you avatar?

That is the green that was on the Air Florida DC-10 that were leased from Transaamerica.

They just painted the blue line on the top part of the fuselage and up half the tail and added the QH logo and titles. But kept the original teal green from the TV scheme. Gemini used the Air Florida green, that they had on the B737s and B727s. So unfortunately they got it wrong. Even though the model is beautiful, it is not an accurate depiction of the planes as they really were.

It's too bad manufacturers do not ask those that know, when venturing to build something they aren't familiar with!

I am NOT aware of the 727 release. Who made? When?

jjorgemiami · 04-24-2005, 12:19 AM

Look here and compare.

jjorgemiami · 04-24-2005, 12:20 AM

No there hasn't been an Air FLorida B727 release yet. I was refering to the real plane.

jjorgemiami · 04-24-2005, 12:29 AM

See here, this is the green it should have been.

JOHN JOHNSON · 04-24-2005, 02:01 AM

Thank for clarification.......

Oh well....... At least we have an Air Florida DC-10 on hand. Better than nothing. Don't you agree? Other than than, I still urge collector to grab one while they can as it is too georgeous.

(Assuming, My guess...... Maybe GJ decided to do in a pure Air Florida's livery for some (sake) reasons to please collector with hot color? or Maybe being fooled by picture just like you posted first thread like it fooled me in the first place? or Maybe GJ knew that but went ahead with pure AF color to please an avid AF collector to avoid possible disappointment if someone complain "Wrong color" (Transamerica's shade) and should be in AF's shade-issues...... I am sure that with your great assistance would enable GJ team to realize such problem and would probably do some deep homework before they start sharpening their crayon..... Thank for your excellent eye-detective work!) Really, I am very please with the one I have!

Thank for clarification.

David Hingtgen · 04-24-2005, 08:35 PM

This was pointed out months ago, maybe years ago. Whenever either Air Florida or TransAmerica DC-10's were discussed, it was pointed out that "Air Florida" DC-10's actually were slightly modified TransAmerica ones, and thus used TransAmerica teal/blue, not Air Florida colors.

I *seriously* doubt GJ knowingly used the wrong color. They just didn't research well enough. You'd think that since every photo shows that the DC-10's really didn't match the 727's or 737's at all, that might have been a clue that there was something unusual about the DC-10's paint...

jjorgemiami · 04-25-2005, 10:06 PM

Isn't there someone from ADI that belongs and contributes to this forum? I wish they would elaborate how something like this happens. Is it lack of knowledge or is it, lack of care and research? Don't get me wrong I love the model it is beautiful, but would have loved it more if it had accurate colors.

P.S. I wish the real one would have worn the true colors, as they are much sharper.

04-22-2005, 11:50 PM	#1
jjorgemiami Complete Wacko! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: MIAMI Age: 47 Posts: 5,666	The new Gemini Select Air Florida DC-10 beuatiful but wrong! The new Gemini Select Air Florida DC-10 is beautiful, however it is wrong. The Air Florida DC-10s that carried the Air Florida or close to it scheme, were actually leased from TransAmerica and the green, were that TransAmerica aqua green not the green green of Air Florida. Others were World Airways and Icelandair schemes with QH titles. Gemini could actually do the World/Air Florida DC-10 quite easily, since it has already sone the World DC-10. See this pictures below of the modeled aircradt N103TV and sister ship N102TV. __________________ Fly United Airlines we are R I S I N G ! Last edited by jjorgemiami; 10-06-2005 at 12:54 AM.

04-23-2005, 12:21 AM	#2
David Hingtgen Complete Wacko! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Iowa Posts: 3,987	Yeah, this was brought up long before the TransAmerica DC-10 was even released. The real DC-10's were little more than 100% TransAmerica teal and blue with a bit more blue added to the cockpit roof. No need to repaint the whole plane in a slightly different scheme with different shades. It's coincidence/luck that Air Florida's scheme was similar, and many people presume they were actually repainted. Also made it easy to send back to the lessor, since they only need to remove that blue paint up front and re-title. The odds of two different airlines having "swooping at the tail" green/blue schemes at the same time... Makes you wonder---did Air Florida pick TransAmerica to lease from to save on painting costs (since they didn't need to repaint) or was it sheer coincidence? Kind of ironic, since I presume this error was brought about by GJ using authentic Air Florida colors---which in this case would be wrong, they needed to use the colors they used on their previous TransAmerica 747 release. __________________ *We need more TWA twin-stripes!* Last edited by David Hingtgen; 04-23-2005 at 12:26 AM.

04-23-2005, 12:33 AM	#3
JOHN JOHNSON Mysterious Collector Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,196	Another interesting subject....... By looking at "T" logo as it belongs Transamerica Airline. (If you have 747 on hand or look at pics.) Also by looking at "F" as Florida.... It do looks almost very similar! I wonder whether "Air Florida" livery or logo was designed by the same company that designed Transamerica, United (I think) and other airliners? Maybe CraigH can help? What a coincidence. __________________ Who should I consider? Dumbocrat Clinton or Ruptublican Johnny Mc Cain? Jimmy Mc Donald Help me!

04-23-2005, 12:37 AM	#4
JOHN JOHNSON Mysterious Collector Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,196	Hey, jjorgemiami Due to two different picture shade as one looks like outdate or low quality picture comparing to the other one? or could it be shade affect to the picture? (ie: sunshine toward camera?) It looks so G-R-E-A-T! Grab one while you can! You won't regret! __________________ Who should I consider? Dumbocrat Clinton or Ruptublican Johnny Mc Cain? Jimmy Mc Donald Help me!

04-24-2005, 12:00 AM	#5
jjorgemiami Complete Wacko! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: MIAMI Age: 47 Posts: 5,666	No John, it's not a lighting effect. I saw them in person, back then. You see the teal/aqua green on the Transamerica logo on you avatar? That is the green that was on the Air Florida DC-10 that were leased from Transaamerica. They just painted the blue line on the top part of the fuselage and up half the tail and added the QH logo and titles. But kept the original teal green from the TV scheme. Gemini used the Air Florida green, that they had on the B737s and B727s. So unfortunately they got it wrong. Even though the model is beautiful, it is not an accurate depiction of the planes as they really were. It's too bad manufacturers do not ask those that know, when venturing to build something they aren't familiar with! __________________ Fly United Airlines we are R I S I N G !

04-24-2005, 12:19 AM	#7
jjorgemiami Complete Wacko! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: MIAMI Age: 47 Posts: 5,666	Look here and compare. __________________ Fly United Airlines we are R I S I N G ! Last edited by jjorgemiami; 10-06-2005 at 12:54 AM.

04-24-2005, 12:20 AM	#8
jjorgemiami Complete Wacko! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: MIAMI Age: 47 Posts: 5,666	No there hasn't been an Air FLorida B727 release yet. I was refering to the real plane. __________________ Fly United Airlines we are R I S I N G !

04-24-2005, 12:29 AM	#9
jjorgemiami Complete Wacko! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: MIAMI Age: 47 Posts: 5,666	See here, this is the green it should have been. __________________ Fly United Airlines we are R I S I N G ! Last edited by jjorgemiami; 10-06-2005 at 12:54 AM.

04-24-2005, 02:01 AM	#10
JOHN JOHNSON Mysterious Collector Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,196	Ah, I got that! Thank for clarification....... Oh well....... At least we have an Air Florida DC-10 on hand. Better than nothing. Don't you agree? Other than than, I still urge collector to grab one while they can as it is too georgeous. (Assuming, My guess...... Maybe GJ decided to do in a pure Air Florida's livery for some (sake) reasons to please collector with hot color? or Maybe being fooled by picture just like you posted first thread like it fooled me in the first place? or Maybe GJ knew that but went ahead with pure AF color to please an avid AF collector to avoid possible disappointment if someone complain "Wrong color" (Transamerica's shade) and should be in AF's shade-issues...... I am sure that with your great assistance would enable GJ team to realize such problem and would probably do some deep homework before they start sharpening their crayon..... Thank for your excellent eye-detective work!) Really, I am very please with the one I have! Thank for clarification. __________________ Who should I consider? Dumbocrat Clinton or Ruptublican Johnny Mc Cain? Jimmy Mc Donald Help me!

04-24-2005, 08:35 PM	#11
David Hingtgen Complete Wacko! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Iowa Posts: 3,987	This was pointed out months ago, maybe years ago. Whenever either Air Florida or TransAmerica DC-10's were discussed, it was pointed out that "Air Florida" DC-10's actually were slightly modified TransAmerica ones, and thus used TransAmerica teal/blue, not Air Florida colors. I seriously doubt GJ knowingly used the wrong color. They just didn't research well enough. You'd think that since every photo shows that the DC-10's really didn't match the 727's or 737's at all, that might have been a clue that there was something unusual about the DC-10's paint... __________________ *We need more TWA twin-stripes!*

04-25-2005, 10:06 PM	#12
jjorgemiami Complete Wacko! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: MIAMI Age: 47 Posts: 5,666	Isn't there someone from ADI that belongs and contributes to this forum? I wish they would elaborate how something like this happens. Is it lack of knowledge or is it, lack of care and research? Don't get me wrong I love the model it is beautiful, but would have loved it more if it had accurate colors. P.S. I wish the real one would have worn the true colors, as they are much sharper. __________________ Fly United Airlines we are R I S I N G !

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