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Old 07-15-2003, 01:27 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I realize lately people have been taken bias to sides of the major civil aircraft companies, "Airbus" or "Boeing". The replies about the two companies were WAY too vague and in ill-depth. So for my thread, please feel free to write about 4-5 paragraphs on the matter of which company is the best. Maybe I’ll get the juices flowen’ by stating this: Do you like the 737, ooor the A321 better? Which are faster? Which are stupid airplanes?

Please don’t be too vague…
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In terms of looks I will take the 737. I havent flown a 737 in a while and the latest version was a -300. Delta, it was smooth and felt roomier than an old AmericaWest -200 I just flew to Vegas. On the way back from Vegas it was an A319 and was quite impressed with the smoothness and roominess. It felt like a bigger plane to me and alot more modern.
So, I really dont know. I dont want to admit it, but the A319 is better. The last and only Airbus I flew was a Pan Am A300 that hadnt been cleaned in days. The plane was smooth, but not as smooth as say a DC10. So???? Who knows!
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Old 07-15-2003, 02:01 AM   #3 (permalink)
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In terms of looks I will take the 737. I havent flown a 737 in a while and the latest version was a -300. Delta, it was smooth and felt roomier than an old AmericaWest -200 I just flew to Vegas. On the way back from Vegas it was an A319 and was quite impressed with the smoothness and roominess. It felt like a bigger plane to me and alot more modern.
So, I really dont know. I dont want to admit it, but the A319 is better. The last and only Airbus I flew was a Pan Am A300 that hadnt been cleaned in days. The plane was smooth, but not as smooth as say a DC10. So???? Who knows!

Hmm, VERY interesting...

This is what I thought about the competition a while back with the 737-900, and memories...

Competition between The Boeing Co. and archrival Airbus Industrie was expected to shift into overdrive as the companies announce multimillion-dollar jet orders at the Farnborough International Air Show in England.

Boeing got a jump on the competition Sunday with the rollout of its first 737-900 at its factory in suburban Renton, Wash. -- a ceremony televised live by satellite at the Dorchester Hotel in London, where Boeing's top brass joined customers, suppliers and guests on the eve of the air show outside the city.

"What an exciting way to start out the air show," commercial airplane boss Alan Mulally said as three-time Iditarod race champion Doug Swingley of Montana and his dogs escorted the new jet from the factory as thousands of workers cheered.

The plane -- the newest and longest of the four "next generation" models of the best-selling 737 plane -- will be delivered to Seattle-based Alaska Airlines in April after it undergoes tests.

"We are here today because Boeing, like any industry-leading company, did what is so vitally important -- they listened to their customer," John Kelly, chairman of Alaska, said as he watched the rollout in Renton.

Alaska was the first to order the 737-900 and will receive five of the jets next year -- part of an effort to phase out all its MD-80 jets and operate an all-737 fleet.

Kelly said Alaska expects to save $18 million a year on its Seattle-Anchorage flights when it eventually replaces its older model 737-400s with the new jets.

He said the airline may be able to trim some flights on its Seattle-Anchorage run because the new plane, with a seating capacity of 177, holds almost 40 passengers more.

Other launch customers for the 737-900 include Continental, KLM and Korean Airlines.

At least two Boeing customers are expected to announce orders at the air show Monday, perhaps including orders for the superlong-range 777X, launched earlier this year.

Two major leasing companies and several Asian carriers have been negotiating with Boeing for the 777X and other models in deals that would top $10 billion at list prices.

Airbus, meanwhile, is expected to announce the first firm order -- reportedly from Emirates Airline -- for its A3XX, the massive 555-seater that could be launched by year's end if the consortium gets enough customers.

Emirates reportedly wants 10 of the double-decker jumbos, which will have a list price of about $230 million.

That number would put Airbus one-fifth of the way to the 50 firm orders it has said it needs to formally decide to build the world's biggest jetliner.

Boeing's take on the market for superjumbo jets is far less optimistic that Airbus'.

Boeing believes the market will require about 350 superjumbo jets over the next 20 years.

Airbus foresees demand for closer to 1,000 jets.

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Old 07-15-2003, 02:14 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I realize lately people have been taken bias to sides of the major civil aircraft companies, "Airbus" or "Boeing". The replies about the two companies were WAY too vague and in ill-depth. So for my thread, please feel free to write about 4-5 paragraphs on the matter of which company is the best. Maybe I’ll get the juices flowen’ by stating this: Do you like the 737, ooor the A321 better? Which are faster? Which are stupid airplanes?

Please don’t be too vague…
Why make it so complicated

Here goes my story:

Few years ago I flew into London from SBA on a BA A319 direct flight. Usually they never use this type of plane but it was the summer season and british have no reason to go to LAX to get cheap sourvenirs.
During the flight there was open bar, all the beer you could drink, chocolate milk, red wine, apple juice, scotch, sake and prune juice (from concentrated) For the hungry the selection was lobster, chimichanga, caviar on saltines (w/o salt) and pizza.
In another occasion I flew from SBA into LAX on a 732. During the short flight they gave me a small bag of pretzels a warm cup with pepsy. The flight attendants were so old that they were using neftaline as a breath refreshner.
The plane was roomie, despite of that there were two latinos on the in one of the overhead hand luggage compartment (they, the latinos saw this as an "upgrade" since they came into the USA inside somebody's car trunk anyway )

Safety First

the only time glue is used at the assembly line at Boeing is during luch time by the workers but never on a plane!!!

My ex-girfriend's father worked as a wasted disposal for this airliner on this type of Boeing and she used to give me money to bet in the horse races, in the top of that she was a great kisser.

I go for Boeing big time!!!


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I dread 737s , I never like 737 ever since i had a couple of bad rides on UA's 737-300 . Comparing with my MD-82 and A319/A320 ride , I'm very much prefer these 2 planes then 737 . If you ask me to choose between Boeing or Airbus , I will say i will pick both . The only good Boeing planes I like are the 717 , 727 . 747 and the 777 . Airbus ? A320/A330 and A340NG . ( I dread the A380) and nor forgetting MD planes , i love the MD80/90 planes , wonderful plane to fly on ....
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Trevor, for christ sake, that was so copied.

What a cheating-falooey.
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I'll take any & all civil aircraft, except the ATR's & Belouga - however, being pressed to take sides here, will go with the family pictured below (pic taken during a recent YYC visit):
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Old 07-15-2003, 10:22 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Having flown on numerous occasions on NW 319/320s and also CO 73G/738's, I must say I prefer the NG Boeings. From my perspective, the 737 NGs give the impression of being more refined- fit and finish is better on the interior, they feel more solid, and are quieter in my opinion. Plus, cruise at FL 410 is an option- not possible in the 319/320 to the best of my knowledge.

Also, love the flight data display on CO's NGs.....
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Old 07-15-2003, 09:43 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I like the Douglas DC-3 because it is incredible from every angle: strength and reliability; fairly easy to fly and to land (or so I have read); passenger comfort at the time; and, most importantly for the operators, profitability. Lessons that engineers learned in streamlining beginning in the early 30s went into this design, but the ultimate impetus was TWA's President, Jack Frye, who sought a modern all-metal craft in his fleet to replace the wooden-framed Fokker Trimotors that were subject to decay. Once American Airlines ordered the enlarged "DST," a sleeper-plane development of the resulting DC-2, and seating was increased to 21 for the daytime version, the DC-3 was "born." Its maiden flight occurred in December 1935.

Douglas produced over ten thousand DC-3s of all types and several designations, mostly during the World War II period when it became a versatile and famous transport - sometimes used as makeshift bomber and glider tug. Plants in Russia and arch-enemy, at the time, Japan produced variants under license. As updated designs, such as the even prettier-looking Connie, displaced the reliable "Threes" from front-line service they were eagerly sought by smaller airlines - Allegheny, Frontier, Hawaiian, North Central, Ozark, Piedmont, Southern, to name just a few - with which they gave even more wonderful if not less glamorous service. About a thousand were still airworthy in the 1960s. This plane is widely acclaimed as a positive part of aeronautical history.

The success of the DC-3 made Douglas the premier producer of airliners for the entire world, at a plant in Santa Monica, CA, until Boeing provided stiff competition in the jet market in the 1960s. As one looks at transport planes of today, with their wide bodies, fly-by-wire, composite materials and high bypass turbofan engines, one can still easily see the influence of the basic DC-3's streamlined shape in every single one of them.
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