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Time to share some photos of the collection I'll make a start with documenting my BA Negus fleet here...I just had a go at replicating the lineup of Tridents that used to be seen at Heathrow T1 - it's a bit tricky taking pics with the iphone of these small subjects. I need to get a macro lense for my proper Nikon then I can get some high quality, close !shots. My collection is all boxed away at the moment because of space constraints - but I'll start unboxing them all and getting some 'proper' photos up soon.





I tried to give a 'retro' hue to this one:





When the classic LHR Control Tower arrives I'll get it assembled and use that as a backdrop. Very tricky with iphone to get all the little details clearly at the moment though!



Here is the rest of the BA fleet...I still have a few I need to add before I consider this area complete

Aeroclassics 'British' B737-200 G-BKYC 'River Wye'. Still need version with 'British Airways' titles



Gemini Jets 'British' B737-200 'River Severn' (I do prefer the AC version though. More fineness in the mould; separately attached wings & not so chunky looking. Red Tail emblem is also very accurately rendered on the AC version too. Although, Gemini do have the officially licensed 'British' titles)




Aeroclassics BAC-1-11, 'British' titles. Very nice. Need 'British Airways' titles version and other reg 'British' one as well




Aeroclassics Vickers Super VC-10. I have G-ASGI & G-ASGM. Still need G-ASGH, G-ASGP, G-ASGJ & G-ASGR. Will avoid G-ARVM because that was a Standard which is incorrectly represented on a Super...However. Beautifully captured in my opinion; lightness and elegance is shown in the mould; it was a tough airframe but looked so graceful. A wonderful aircraft and one of my favourite British built jetliners.





Aeroclassics B707-200 G-ATZD. Need 'British Airways', 'British Airways Cargo' & 'British Cargo' to complete 707 lineup



BlueBox L-1011 TriStar G-BBAE. A definitive version still needs to be made in my opinion. In some ways very toy-like. Tail emblem accurately proportioned but wrong shade of red used (too dark). If they'd used the same shade of red as on their Air Canada release, that would have been a closer match. 'British' and 'British Airways' titles not accurate. I have an Aviation400 Saudia TriStar which I think is better. Still grateful for a Red Tail L-1011 though:



BlueBox TriStar L-1011-200 G-BHBO



Gemini Jets Vickers Super VC-10 G-ASGP. Much heavier looking than that of the AC version. Ugly joint in tail fin attachment. Tail emblem not accurately depicted (blue portion too small)



Gemini Jets HS Trident 2E 'British Airways' G-AVFE. I plan to have a total of 10 Tridents (2s, 3s) for the Terminal 1 Lineup and Maintenance Area scene.



Gemini Jets HS Trident 2E 'British' G-AVFG. This covers the 1981-1983 final years period of this type.



Gemini Jets HS Trident 3B 'British Airways' G-AWZA



Gemini Jets HS Trident 3B 'British' G-AWZS



Gemini Jets BAC-Aerospatiale Concorde G-BOAA 'British Airways'. Aeroclassics version needed, plus 'British' titles. Grace and simplicity perfected. A classic and much-missed resident at LHR. I'll never forget the sound!

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Big Bird 'British' B747-236 G-BDXH 'City Of Edinburgh'. My all-time favourite 747 mould. Very close on the 'British' font but not the officially licensed typeset as seen on Gemini. Otherwise perfect!









Big Bird 'British Airways' B747-236 G-BDXC 'City Of Manchester'. Lovely depiction of the original 1977 delivery colours of the 236 series. Great how the 'silver belly' has also been detailed; an important distinction with this colour scheme on the 747:





Big Bird 'British Cargo' 'British Trader' G-KILO. To capture the short period of her use by BA during 1980-1983





And finally, Big Bird B747-136 'British Airways' G-AWNE. Hybrid colours with former BOAC cheatline and polished belly. Named 'Sir Walter Raleigh'. Added to capture the earliest period of my LHR era represented - 1975.







Also...I received my LHR Control Tower card kit today. I'll start work on this soon! Thanks for looking

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Great stuff, Alex!! A kind of crazy day here, so I can't comment at too much length, but I just wanted to say that's a great collection and I look forward to more photos soon!

I'll post some of my own Negus models once I get my camera working again. The flash is making a scary popping noise and not working, so I need to contact the manufacturer!

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What a wonderful BA line-up. I have a few Negus in my small BA fleet. I am not a fleet builder, but it just happened that way.
My favourite jet is the VC-10, and I have a Negus one. So much better than the airfix one I made back when I were a lad.
I see you have the tower - I'd like to know how you got on with putting that together.
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Sweet collection which echoes my own. One question though, I haven't seen a BB 'British' 747 with the black radome before. Did you customise ?
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Great stuff, Alex!! A kind of crazy day here, so I can't comment at too much length, but I just wanted to say that's a great collection and I look forward to more photos soon!

I'll post some of my own Negus models once I get my camera working again. The flash is making a scary popping noise and not working, so I need to contact the manufacturer!

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Thanks a lot!! No worries and I'll be adding others soon Hope you get the camera fixed ok, and yes please add your Negus collection, the more the merrier!

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What a wonderful BA line-up. I have a few Negus in my small BA fleet. I am not a fleet builder, but it just happened that way.
My favourite jet is the VC-10, and I have a Negus one. So much better than the airfix one I made back when I were a lad.
I see you have the tower - I'd like to know how you got on with putting that together.
Thanks AndyJC, the Negus livery is really eye-catching, great to have some in the collection if even you're not fleet building. Got to love the VC-10! I had a few airfix kits myself but were never as good as these models. Yes I'm going to start on the tower slowly - it looks very tricky in places with lots of tiny, repeat cuts to be made...lots of patience and a very steady hand required here
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Sweet collection which echoes my own. One question though, I haven't seen a BB 'British' 747 with the black radome before. Did you customise ?
Thanks Big Al. Yes I customised one of those - because there were some 236s with black radomes too (one is shown on the back of the box...I thought it was just on the ex-BOAC 136s before). I used some spare black decal sheet I had lying around, and cut it to shape. It was very fiddly to do! But doing it this way means it's not permanent. I wouldn't risk anything with paint.
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Nice custom ! And yes there's a few things needing to be done yet or done properly as far as BA Negus goes in 1:400. Certainly better renditions of the Tristars, the 500 series too. The BAC 1-11-500 could be done by JC Wings, Aeroclassics could redo the Trident 2 and someone, perhaps Herpa could do an original Rolls Royce RB-211 535 C type engined 757. And then of course there's the helicopter division... ;-)
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Very nice!
You should try and get hold of a Herpa Concorde if you can, they did a Negus 'British' titled machine not too long ago. The Herpa mould is absolutely gorgeous, needle sharp and clean. You could play darts with it! Makes the Gemini mould look a bit like a Jet Provost in comparison.

The VC/SVC-10 was always a favourite of mine too. I kind of wish they'd lasted into the Landor era as I think that livery would have looked superb on the big Vickers.

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Nice custom ! And yes there's a few things needing to be done yet or done properly as far as BA Negus goes in 1:400. Certainly better renditions of the Tristars, the 500 series too. The BAC 1-11-500 could be done by JC Wings, Aeroclassics could redo the Trident 2 and someone, perhaps Herpa could do an original Rolls Royce RB-211 535 C type engined 757. And then of course there's the helicopter division... ;-)
Thanks Big Al. Definitely, agreed on all points, Tristars could be so much better and it is doable; we've not had a 1:400 Tristar 500 in Negus yet either, Herpa did one in 1:500 (which I have) and I was very frustrated because their 1:400 mould is excellent. Still lots to do! Aeroclassics would do a very good Trident 2. The Gemini ones have a wonky tail fin! I forgot the helicopter division - lots of scope there.
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Very nice!
You should try and get hold of a Herpa Concorde if you can, they did a Negus 'British' titled machine not too long ago. The Herpa mould is absolutely gorgeous, needle sharp and clean. You could play darts with it! Makes the Gemini mould look a bit like a Jet Provost in comparison.

The VC/SVC-10 was always a favourite of mine too. I kind of wish they'd lasted into the Landor era as I think that livery would have looked superb on the big Vickers.

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Thanks Ty-114 I really like the quality of the Herpa models, so I'll look that up! Sounds awesome, thanks for the heads up
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Nice collection building up.
Sold my Herpa concorde and replaced with the Gemini - as it looked out of place with the rest being geminis.

Don't forget the earlier Aeroclassics Boeing 707-436 In British Airtours and British Airways. They pop up occasionaly at about £20-£25

Just a thought that Herpa do a 1/200 Chinook. Possible do a custom or they could produce a BA version.
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Your collection is very interesting.

I also love the LHR control tower, before working on it I would suggest to make a copy of all the elements with your printer …
… and rescaling them to the 1/200 would be a nice idea for those who like me, collect models in this scale.

I have not been to LHR for many years, I heard that the complete building was demolished ...

Thanks for sharing.

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Nice collection building up.
Sold my Herpa concorde and replaced with the Gemini - as it looked out of place with the rest being geminis.

Don't forget the earlier Aeroclassics Boeing 707-436 In British Airtours and British Airways. They pop up occasionaly at about £20-£25

Just a thought that Herpa do a 1/200 Chinook. Possible do a custom or they could produce a BA version.
Hi Aviaction, thanks a lot. It's taken a while to get this far. Interesting, sounds like the Herpa one won't compliment the Gemini version I already have very well then? Either one or the other...

Yes I really need the 'British Airways' 707-436, that's for next month's shopping list. I haven't gone after the British Airtours ones because they operated from Gatwick and my diorama is Heathrow!

The 1/200 is too big for me - I collect 1/400 only - but a BA Chinook would be a great model
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Your collection is very interesting.

I also love the LHR control tower, before working on it I would suggest to make a copy of all the elements with your printer …
… and rescaling them to the 1/200 would be a nice idea for those who like me, collect models in this scale.

I have not been to LHR for many years, I heard that the complete building was demolished ...

Thanks for sharing.

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Hello Jean Pierre

Thank you Yes there is a copyright so I wouldn't do that but the idea of having a backup is a very good one, which is why I'm going to order another copy of the tower in case I make a mistake There are some very tiny details so there is a high chance of making cutting errors if not careful!

LHR has changed completely now, you wouldn't recognise it. It was a real shame when the tower was demolished, it had a very distinctive appearance and looked very smart.
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Note that Aviaction didn't actually specify his opinion of the Herpa Concorde prior to getting rid of it and going all Gemini, and I sense his post is putting you off the Herpa mould. Perhaps he could chime in and elaborate a bit on what he actually thought of the moulds, having them side by side to compare?
IMHO the Gemini (also JC & Phoenix) mould is fine if displayed by itself or among others of its kind. They are quite recognisable as what they are meant to be. (Certainly far, far better than the old Dragon Wings offering, which admittedly isn't saying much!)
However the Herpa mould is a rather different animal, being considerably finer in detail and proportion and more delicate in construction. I would dare say it is a more accurate representation of the actual aircraft in this scale. It is indeed quite visibly different when placed next to the Gemini product.
I went the opposite way and went all Herpa Concordes. (Such as they are, I only have three though - Air France, Negus 'British' & Landor, not exactly a fleet which you can't easily do with Herpa as their only other released livery is the final BA Chatham scheme.) I avoided the recent JC BOAC fantasy bird (which I otherwise would have bought) for more or less the same reason, they don't really mix well and I'd rather go for the, again in my opinion only, more accurate mould.
All that said, I do recall there was some discussion about the printing on the Herpa Negus 'British' product when it was released. Questions were raised on the accuracy of the tail markings and titles. You obviously have the expertise to check this out and make your own decision on the print job. In any case, I stuck with the Herpa product.
I just wish they'd do more.
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The printing on the Herpa 'Negus' Concorde was a huge let down, I think I described the 'British' legend on here at the time as looking like it hand been hand drawn with a blue biro ? That and the flimsier elements of the construction made a decent overall mould into something of a liability. The nose gear on mine snapped, mid-point after about two days of ownership. Not the easiest of repairs either, it now resides at the back of my display cabinet like a crippled athlete on the subs bench.

I also recall making the schoolboy error of enquiring with Herpa as to the possibility of a replacement nose gear for my treasured Concorde ? I'm not sure what the German for "no chance" is, but that was what they said. At least with the Gemini Concorde there's a rigidity and a robustness about the mould. Even if you're not exactly going to win the speedboat on Bullseye with it... ;-)
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Interesting. I got my first one about eight or nine years back. All three have survived to this day with no damage whatsoever despite the odd dusting... (With an old camera lens puffer & brush.) Mine live in a cabinet and are not handled much. Definitely not taken out and maneuvered on airport dioramas for photography, so I'll concede some points on potential fragility. However forty odd years as plastic kitbasher leaves me with a preference for scale accuracy, even at the expense of delicacy. YMMV.
All I'll say on the print of the 'British' titles on mine is that they are clean and crisp (definitely not hand drawn!) however I suspect they may be a bit too big and the font is on the tall and thin side.
If you've had more luck with Gemini after market care than Herpa then I'd be surprised. The only company I've ever had any luck with for spares and so forth is Aeroclassics. Most manufacturers in this hobby could certainly learn a thing or two from some of the better plastic kit manufacturers regarding after sales support!

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Yes! the Herpa concorde is way better than the gemini (which looks akin to something out of a cereal packet) But when lined up on display with the geminis it looked out of place. I cant see Herpa doing all schemes that Gemini have done (or Dragon)

Pic from when I had the Herpa


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Note that Aviaction didn't actually specify his opinion of the Herpa Concorde prior to getting rid of it and going all Gemini, and I sense his post is putting you off the Herpa mould. Perhaps he could chime in and elaborate a bit on what he actually thought of the moulds, having them side by side to compare?
IMHO the Gemini (also JC & Phoenix) mould is fine if displayed by itself or among others of its kind. They are quite recognisable as what they are meant to be. (Certainly far, far better than the old Dragon Wings offering, which admittedly isn't saying much!)
However the Herpa mould is a rather different animal, being considerably finer in detail and proportion and more delicate in construction. I would dare say it is a more accurate representation of the actual aircraft in this scale. It is indeed quite visibly different when placed next to the Gemini product.


I went the opposite way and went all Herpa Concordes. (Such as they are, I only have three though - Air France, Negus 'British' & Landor, not exactly a fleet which you can't easily do with Herpa as their only other released livery is the final BA Chatham scheme.) I avoided the recent JC BOAC fantasy bird (which I otherwise would have bought) for more or less the same reason, they don't really mix well and I'd rather go for the, again in my opinion only, more accurate mould.
All that said, I do recall there was some discussion about the printing on the Herpa Negus 'British' product when it was released. Questions were raised on the accuracy of the tail markings and titles. You obviously have the expertise to check this out and make your own decision on the print job. In any case, I stuck with the Herpa product.
I just wish they'd do more.
Hi Ty-114, thanks for your thoughtful input. I have 2 Herpa models in my collection; a 1:400 LTU Tristar and a 1:500 Negus BA Tristar. Both are excellent models (I bought the 1:500 one because it was a Negus, but really wished it was in 1:400 scale). The red is a little too bright on the Negus Tristar but like the Concorde model, the packaging has officially licensed 'British airways' branding. Like you, I wish Herpa would do much more with 1:400 scale, the quality is excellent (with the Tristars anyway) as is their packaging, the foam inserts really protect the model and do not rub paint or detailing off - which has occured with AC and BB models - I have to keep a sheet of soft plastic under the tails of all my 747s in their blister packaging to stop paint rubbing/small bits of cabin door tampo print coming off.

What I'm concerned about is consistency - because I'm fleet building - but I do accept that differences are inevitable between manufacturer's interpretations. In a perfect world they could all interpret the same, official colour scheme and have licenses to use the correct typeface. I actually prefer the look of the Herpa Concorde as well, it is a much finely scaled looking model, but I'm not convinced by the 'British' titles...not sure what to do yet!
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The printing on the Herpa 'Negus' Concorde was a huge let down, I think I described the 'British' legend on here at the time as looking like it hand been hand drawn with a blue biro ? That and the flimsier elements of the construction made a decent overall mould into something of a liability. The nose gear on mine snapped, mid-point after about two days of ownership. Not the easiest of repairs either, it now resides at the back of my display cabinet like a crippled athlete on the subs bench.

I also recall making the schoolboy error of enquiring with Herpa as to the possibility of a replacement nose gear for my treasured Concorde ? I'm not sure what the German for "no chance" is, but that was what they said. At least with the Gemini Concorde there's a rigidity and a robustness about the mould. Even if you're not exactly going to win the speedboat on Bullseye with it... ;-)
This is an interesting contrast of opinion! It's hard to tell from the pictures but looking at the photos Aviaction posted again, I must say that the 'British' tiles look very good on the Gemini. The delicate nose gear is also concerning and your experience of it sounds highly annoying. Shame you were on the receiving end of poor customer service to boot! With such contrasting opinions, I'm more confused than ever
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Yes! the Herpa concorde is way better than the gemini (which looks akin to something out of a cereal packet) But when lined up on display with the geminis it looked out of place. I cant see Herpa doing all schemes that Gemini have done (or Dragon)

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I do like the Herpa one too, but I'm looking at the 'British' titles more closely again and I think Gemini wins on that one...I'm 50-50 at the moment between the two.
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Don't get too bent out of shape about it, there is no wrong answer here. (Sometimes when I'm being cynical about this hobby, I think there is no right answer. )
If you are fleet building, the Gemini product may indeed fit better for you particularly if you have your own concerns about the accuracy of the titles on the models. I stuck with Herpa as I already had their Landor and French offerings which are absolutely gorgeous and simply wanted individual livery examples. So I suspect Aviaction's strategy would fit your needs better.
Worst comes to worst, toss a coin and see if you have second thoughts about the result! Or simply grab whichever one you can find first or cheapest.
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Aeroclassics Vickers Super VC-10. I have G-ASGI & G-ASGM. Still need G-ASGH, G-ASGP, G-ASGJ & G-ASGR. Will avoid G-ARVM because that was a Standard which is incorrectly represented on a Super..
Not so my friend! G-ARVM was not made by Aeroclassics on their Super VC10 mould but by Gemini correctly as a Standard in Negus colours.

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Nice custom ! And yes there's a few things needing to be done yet or done properly as far as BA Negus goes in 1:400, Aeroclassics could redo the Trident 2 ;-)
Well whaddya know, two Negus liveried Trident 2 releases in the January Aeroclassics announcement ! All that remains is for Andrew to confirm they have all ten wheels and that they won't go missing for months on a return cruise round the South China Seas via Heysham !
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As a tip on the Control Tower, do a high resolution scan before you make it.
Then you can print out a bit if it gets mucked up.
Also it can then be scaled up to 1/200 (but you didn't read that bit!-copyright etc)
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Don't get too bent out of shape about it, there is no wrong answer here. (Sometimes when I'm being cynical about this hobby, I think there is no right answer. )
If you are fleet building, the Gemini product may indeed fit better for you particularly if you have your own concerns about the accuracy of the titles on the models. I stuck with Herpa as I already had their Landor and French offerings which are absolutely gorgeous and simply wanted individual livery examples. So I suspect Aviaction's strategy would fit your needs better.
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Don't worry I won't! Thanks and I agree - it's all down to personal taste in the end. I'll keep a look out and see what happens - it'll be interesting to compare them so I may get both versions eventually. Your Herpa line-up looks really good btw
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Not so my friend! G-ARVM was not made by Aeroclassics on their Super VC10 mould but by Gemini correctly as a Standard in Negus colours.

I have built that LHR tower kit and it features on my LHR model. Photos of the real thing before and after demolishing feature in my new book shown on the left in my Avatar.
Hi Adrian. Yes I know the Gemini Standard VC-10 - I have one on my wishlist for next month! However there is indeed another version that I found on the DiMA database, which is by Aeroclassics, of G-ARVM, but it's very rare because only 62 units were produced. But it is made on the Super mould, which therefore makes it an inaccurate representation:

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I have just seen your LHR airport model and it is absolutely fantastic - lots of inspiration there I love the tiny BEA Routemaster coaches and RTs - may I ask where you found those? I hope to be able to model the airport myself one day. I'm looking forward to starting the tower kit, I love a challenging project and it is a great idea to strengthen the kit using plasticard. The brick rendering is great too. I will be getting a copy of your book - it's sad to see the old tower go though, I've seen photos (on Flickr I think) that someone took capturing it's demolition.
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As a tip on the Control Tower, do a high resolution scan before you make it.
Then you can print out a bit if it gets mucked up.
Also it can then be scaled up to 1/200 (but you didn't read that bit!-copyright etc)
Hi Aviaction - I had similar advice earlier, I was concerned about the copyright, and I was just going to pick up another kit as backup. But I'll see how I get on!
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Well whaddya know, two Negus liveried Trident 2 releases in the January Aeroclassics announcement ! All that remains is for Andrew to confirm they have all ten wheels and that they won't go missing for months on a return cruise round the South China Seas via Heysham !
I've just had a look at these now and I'm definitely going to get them, there are certain inaccuracies but the wings & stabs are a much better representation than on the Gemini versions, as you've pointed out on that thread, and if they have all ten wheels that's another big plus!
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Re: G-AVRM from Aeroclassics. The model was made on a first generation AC mould. That mould was a Standard VC10 but whilst it was something of a prized possession at the time it was highly inaccurate compared to the later versions of the VC10 from AC and GJ. It was decaled rather than printed, held together by a screw and came in a plain white box.

I've got a couple of Gen 1 Aeroclassics, not VC10s, and they are a quaint memory of this hobby in its infancy. What they are not is essential pieces to complete a collection.
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Hi Adrian. Yes I know the Gemini Standard VC-10 - I have one on my wishlist for next month! However there is indeed another version that I found on the DiMA database, which is by Aeroclassics, of G-ARVM, but it's very rare because only 62 units were produced. But it is made on the Super mould, which therefore makes it an inaccurate representation:

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I have just seen your LHR airport model and it is absolutely fantastic - lots of inspiration there I love the tiny BEA Routemaster coaches and RTs - may I ask where you found those? I hope to be able to model the airport myself one day. I'm looking forward to starting the tower kit, I love a challenging project and it is a great idea to strengthen the kit using plasticard. The brick rendering is great too. I will be getting a copy of your book - it's sad to see the old tower go though, I've seen photos (on Flickr I think) that someone took capturing it's demolition.
As Neil has pointed out, the model of VC10 G-ARVM was a decalled version on Aeroclassics Generation 1 mould and really not worth considering. Regarding the two Aeroclassics BA Tridents just announced, I would have snapped them up IF the font titles were the correct thickness and IF the wings were painted light grey and not some silver/coroguard colour!!

Re the Routemaster buses on my LHR model, I bought them from a local supplier in Wiltshire here:

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At only £1.44 per bus model, they are a bargain, so I bought several as well as some cars also. They are white metal and you have to paint them. I fashioned the luggage trailers for the Routemaster buses from plasticard.
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Going back to your pictures Alex, put your two Negus 737's side by side and see if you think the blue underbelly portion on the AC version comes up too high ? I think it does, especially compared to their 'British Airways' version released the same month. The silver topped experimental livery one is the same too. That particular model also suffered from having a chrome finish instead of a muted silver look. And if you manage to track down all of the AC Super VC-10's look out for the first one of the batch, G-ASGP which came with the wing spoiler detail printed the wrong way round and silver painted leading edges. Quite different from the others in the set.
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Re: G-AVRM from Aeroclassics. The model was made on a first generation AC mould. That mould was a Standard VC10 but whilst it was something of a prized possession at the time it was highly inaccurate compared to the later versions of the VC10 from AC and GJ. It was decaled rather than printed, held together by a screw and came in a plain white box.

I've got a couple of Gen 1 Aeroclassics, not VC10s, and they are a quaint memory of this hobby in its infancy. What they are not is essential pieces to complete a collection.
Thanks for the info on that - I thought it looked different in the picture, so that has cleared that up!
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As Neil has pointed out, the model of VC10 G-ARVM was a decalled version on Aeroclassics Generation 1 mould and really not worth considering. Regarding the two Aeroclassics BA Tridents just announced, I would have snapped them up IF the font titles were the correct thickness and IF the wings were painted light grey and not some silver/coroguard colour!!

Re the Routemaster buses on my LHR model, I bought them from a local supplier in Wiltshire here:

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At only £1.44 per bus model, they are a bargain, so I bought several as well as some cars also. They are white metal and you have to paint them. I fashioned the luggage trailers for the Routemaster buses from plasticard.
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Yes, at looking at the pictures of that early AC VC-10 I can see that it is not up to par with the later offerings. Those detailing errors with the latest AC releases frustrate me too, I don't have any AC Tridents in my collection yet either, I'm 50-50 about getting these at the moment. They wouldn't match the Gemini fleet very well.

Thanks for the link - I'll get a few of those, they're great! Excellent scratch build job on those trailers, a very good representation.
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Going back to your pictures Alex, put your two Negus 737's side by side and see if you think the blue underbelly portion on the AC version comes up too high ? I think it does, especially compared to their 'British Airways' version released the same month. The silver topped experimental livery one is the same too. That particular model also suffered from having a chrome finish instead of a muted silver look. And if you manage to track down all of the AC Super VC-10's look out for the first one of the batch, G-ASGP which came with the wing spoiler detail printed the wrong way round and silver painted leading edges. Quite different from the others in the set.
Big Al, yes you're right, the blue underbelly is too high. The 'British' titles are not accurate either, but the construction is better with the wing assembly, no seams, and the tail emblem is spot-on; those are my redeeming features on this one. There isn't a definative Negus model out there yet. Many come close, e.g the BB 747- but just need official title fonts to be perfect.

I'll look out for those detail differences on G-ASGP! I didn't realise that there were so many versions released (I thought there were 4, but found 6)
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