Can you post some photos? I'm still planning on buying the above-mentioned 707s, but that silver paint is truly ugly and will make me think twice in the future. Apparently GJ has started using this crap on their models too, e.g. the National 727
Especially the wings and horizontal stabilizers are affected ("rough" glitter). The silver color of the bellies comes with a smoother look.
Sorry, won't be able to post pictures today.
If these are all "That 70's Color" then it's a shame. Still, I have heard that the disco look is on the outs... perhaps the next series of release's paint will be from a later decade... the 90's at least!
...Oh, wait... 90's=Angst... This could be WORSE!
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OK here are a few pictures of the AeroClassic Air India B707. It is not in bare metal it is painted silver. The discoball effect as you guys refer to it is not noticable in person. You will see it on the close up of the wing but this shows up more in the picture than in real life, has to do with lighting a lot as well. Hope these help. But see in person before you rush to judgement.
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when I saw first such a close up foto of RyanAir/Jaguar I also got a shock and had a bad feeling....two days later I was able to check this model at my retailer and I was very satisfied.
You have to look very very close to see this glitter efect (same as India and Varig 707)
If you have those models on display you will find no difference between those painted and the polished ones.
Of cause when you ONLY look with magnifiers, you will see the difference.
BTW I also had the same feeling with the Tucanos. on the close up shots the models looked very overdetailed but when having them in hand the printing look fine.
Of cause a lot of colours and mould problems, but Tucanos printing is nice, I think.
I for one am glad to see my Air India's B707. Never mind about the glitter or anything of that sort. I think its a great model and I look forward to more new releases from Aeroclassics.
The metallic paint could be better but I love these schemes to overlook that fact!
The plane and the Airlines represented in their era paint schemes are still great and the metal paints like these are just a minor effect on these models. If accuracy falls elsewhere on the model this to me is a minor problem.
No worries.
I'm not placing my eyeball 2 inches or less from any 1/400 model.
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That silver paint is a bit glittery, but it looks worse on the photo's than it does in real life. However if you put one of these models next to a silver painted Gemini, the Gemini model looks alot better.
Originally posted by Impman That silver paint is a bit glittery, but it looks worse on the photo's than it does in real life. However if you put one of these models next to a silver painted Gemini, the Gemini model looks alot better.
Sorry for being rude guys, but either you don't want to see it or you are having problems with your eyes. The glitter effect is very well noticeable and you don't need a magnifier to see the glitter. However, it is true that under bright light the glittering is more intense than under "soft" lighting conditions. On the other hand, Aeroclassics did use silver color which is perfect under ANY lighting conditions. Just compare the two pictures. Both have been taken under same conditions with identical camera settings. Are you saying that you PREFER the silver as used with the Varig? If yes, why?
There must be a glut of cheap-a$$ silver glitter paint on the market these days as Gemini has gotten into the act too. Check out the engines on their BCAL DC-10 and National 727.
Absolutely NASTY!!!!! Noticed this glitter in the first pics of the TWA 707. The fact that these subjects have been made using a nice mould is first-rate, however. Hope the supply of cheap silver nail polish runs out soon (lol)
Well just looked at my new Air India .... looks fine under normal light and magnification to me .... looked at a DW while I was at it and it is glittery too (not as much). I think if things like the seam on GJs or the screw on gen 1.5 ac's bother you a lot, this might too. I will say that the pictures here overstate the glitter .... can it be improved ... sure (I like the western paint better) .... but it is a damn fine model in a livery that no one else has the balls to produce.
For that the models from Aeroclassics are not the cheapest ones I would decide that it's not acceptable. But I even guess for most of the collectors it's a political decision. If Tucano would have released them everybody would have written another kind of statement!
Further nobody's got a problem with the tail seams of GeminiJets...
I am still sorting out the models which are not in the perfect way I would like to have it.
Originally posted by Taca Tuca Dude Now imagine TUCANO would have done something like this...oh my god, you all would have no mercy!!!!!!!!!!!!
You obviously have not read MY threads before ..... never talked about Tucano's quality .... only talked about their boring liveries and their lack of ethics, their arrogance and the fact they stole a mould.
Speaking of arrogance it is interesting to note that GJ's and AC listen and correct issues that thier customers have expressed to them .. for instance no tail seam on the GJ II and the vast improvments made on the new Gen2 AC's ... I would bet that this paint gets changed ....
TUCANO and company on the other hand will just tell us that we are idiots and our monitors suck... so therefore all the flaws in thier moulds will stay ....
So in my eyes TUCANO still sucks and will continue to suck until they prove otherwise by their actions.
Originally posted by Flyer For that the models from Aeroclassics are not the cheapest ones I would decide that it's not acceptable. But I even guess for most of the collectors it's a political decision. If Tucano would have released them everybody would have written another kind of statement!
Further nobody's got a problem with the tail seams of GeminiJets...
I am still sorting out the models which are not in the perfect way I would like to have it.
Have you read the threads on this board??? Did you go back and look at past threads?? ... many people have been hammering GJ's on the tail seams ... why do you think GJ's changed it on thier Gen II moulds?????? ... do your research before spouting off ...
Originally posted by bigredvmi You obviously have not read MY threads before ..... never talked about Tucano's quality .... only talked about their boring liveries and their lack of ethics, their arrogance and the fact they stole a mould.
Speaking of arrogance it is interesting to note that GJ's and AC listen and correct issues that thier customers have expressed to them .. for instance no tail seam on the GJ II and the vast improvments made on the new Gen2 AC's ... I would bet that this paint gets changed ....
TUCANO and company on the other hand will just tell us that we are idiots and our monitors suck... so therefore all the flaws in thier moulds will stay ....
So in my eyes TUCANO still sucks and will continue to suck until they prove otherwise by their actions.
...Didn't I post that's it's only a political decision?
Originally posted by Flyer ...Didn't I post that's it's only a political decision?
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I would agree that NOT to buy Tucano may be a political decision
.... a decision to buy Aeroclassics vs. the other manufactures on the other hand, certainly is not a political decision ...
There is still DW, GJ, Jet-X and AC too chose from. With over 20 new jets from these mfgrs. a month and not enough money to buy them all it goes beyond a "political" decision. It becomes a matter of what type of collector you are: Do you collect plane types or liveries, is it quality and accuracey or liveries, is it plastic wings or metal ... and on and on and on ....
I would agree that NOT to buy Tucano may be a political decision
.... a decision to buy Aeroclassics vs. the other manufactures on the other hand, certainly is not a political decision ...
There is still DW, GJ, Jet-X and AC too chose from. With over 20 new jets from these mfgrs. a month and not enough money to buy them all it goes beyond a "political" decision. It becomes a matter of what type of collector you are: Do you collect plane types or liveries, is it quality and accuracey or liveries, is it plastic wings or metal ... and on and on and on ....
You're right, Bigred!
There is neither Tucano nor Aeroclassics in my collection. My favourites are still Dragon Wings because in most of the cases their quality matches their prices.
There's a few Tucanos and even a few ACs I'd like to have but they're too expensive....
With growing age my demand for best quality is growing, too! ;-)
Will say that I'm paying more and more attention to the details of a model.
If Gemini would fix the "tail seam problem" at all their models Dragon Wings would have a very dangerous rival!
So, the much smoother look of the belly is a mishap then? I find it inacceptable to have any cheap colors on my beloved Aeroclassics. Next time all-disco, please!!!
Mr Klein should make the prototype 707-320: it was totally bare, like the first MD-11, with titles only. ALL glitter. Really make some people complain.
Originally posted by Airliners! Heck Neils, I wouldn't get any closer than 2 feet from any model - especially one I have just built!
Wot? No dental mirror under the wheel wells?? `That hydraulic line isn't exposed on the -ER version!!'
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Originally posted by aklein707 If you'd put the maghnifying glasses away and enjoy the models for what they are, you may not notice the chemical composition of the paint.
Agreed - besides, they look awesome in real life!!
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