Due to popular requests, GeminiJets has reached an agreement with jetBlue to produce A320 models in their three different tail configurations.
Because of distribution restrictions, these models will only be available through jetBlue. However, the airline has assured us that they will be available to anyone who wishes to order them.
These models can now be ordered from www.jetblutique.com.
Please remember, these models CANNOT be ordered from ADI, and will NOT be available for regular distribution.
You can find these statements from GJ Homepage. It is pretty amazing to me that it takes this long for GJ to realize that they are better off doing a corporate models along with their regular release.
By the way, the statement "However, the airline has assured us that they will be available to anyone who wishes to order them"
is very political and I do not think it is true. What is the percentage of people around the world have CREDIT CARD(that is what the method of payment at JetBlue). So if you do not have credit card these models is not available for you.
While I am not against GJ doing a corporate, it is not necessary to make a statement like that. Just said it is a corporate models.
jetBlue is perfectly happy to have you call their order center up on the phone, order the models, and mail them a Money Order. You don't need a Credit Card to order.
You can find these statements from GJ Homepage. It is pretty amazing to me that it takes this long for GJ to realize that they are better off doing a corporate models along with their regular release.
It sounds like it was not GJ's choice to make it a corporate model, but Jet Blue's request. In other words, Jet Blue might have said "you can make models of our airplanes only if we have the exclusive distribution rights for them". So, I wouldn't say GJ has finally found out they are better off doing corporate models.
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It sounds like it was not GJ's choice to make it a corporate model, but Jet Blue's request. In other words, Jet Blue might have said "you can make models of our airplanes only if we have the exclusive distribution rights for them". So, I wouldn't say GJ has finally found out they are better off doing corporate models.
I agree with that! Jet Blue was a customer to Gemini and as to Jet Blue's wishes Gemini fallowed through. I am glad a statement was published at Gemini Jets website stating to collectors as to what was going on. American's CR Smith Museum did the same thing I have no problem with that! On both times Gemini has come fourth as to what has happened with Corporate Models and it was clearly stated on there website.
It is not GJ doing corporate models that I am object to here, but the statement on GJ homepage.
I interprete the statement as saying "Hey, we actually do not want to do corporate model, but since JetBlue has assured us that everyone who wish to have the model can order it through JetBlue, we will do it!".I just do not think it is necessary to make an excuse like that. Just say it is a corporate model and only available at JetBlue. Period. Just do it and admitt to us collectors that there will be more and more corporate models that will not be sold on regular channels.
People like us are mature enough to understand that GJ need to do more Corporate model in the future despite the old campaign that GJ models always be sold through normal distribution channel and blah...blah...blah..... Believe me that Corporate Models are the one that make Herpa BIG.
The bottom line is that Corporate models will not be available to everyone! A phone call order to the states from here? Well, when the ordering process done I will pay USD 50 for phone call, USD 25 for the model and another USD 20 for the shipping plus additional money order fee and postage, etc. How much will that JetBlue cost me? Close to USD 100. So phone order is not an option for me.
Originally posted by Garuda It is not GJ doing corporate models that I am object to here, but the statement on GJ homepage.
I interprete the statement as saying "Hey, we actually do not want to do corporate model, but since JetBlue has assured us that everyone who wish to have the model can order it through JetBlue, we will do it!".I just do not think it is necessary to make an excuse like that. Just say it is a corporate model and only available at JetBlue. Period. Just do it and admitt to us collectors that there will be more and more corporate models that will not be sold on regular channels.
People like us are mature enough to understand that GJ need to do more Corporate model in the future despite the old campaign that GJ models always be sold through normal distribution channel and blah...blah...blah..... Believe me that Corporate Models are the one that make Herpa BIG.
The bottom line is that Corporate models will not be available to everyone! A phone call order to the states from here? Well, when the ordering process done I will pay USD 50 for phone call, USD 25 for the model and another USD 20 for the shipping plus additional money order fee and postage, etc. How much will that JetBlue cost me? Close to USD 100. So phone order is not an option for me.
Garuda, I don't know what you're getting at here buddy. GJ simply wrote an explanation that the models would be sold through the airline, and you seem to blowing this out of proportion. It really sounds like you are angry at the fact that it is a corporate model, and not just because of the statement. I don't have a problem with buying corporate models from Asia, despite the high costs and lack of customer service (for the most part) - because I understand that in order for certain models to be licensed, this is what needs to happen. And I don't know what JetBlutique you're looking at, but my models cost $21.95USD, not $25, and if you're spending $50USD for a phone call, you might want to investigate other long distance options.
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Order all three tails, then it will only cost about $144 for all three planes (a bargain at half the price or whatever).
Hold on there big feller, $50 US for a phone call, what!?????
You need to be using 1-800-COLLECT!
On the other hand, you are right. Gemini should reword their website statement to read:
"Because of distribution restrictions, these models will only be available through jetBlue. However, the airline has assured us that they will be available to anyone (with a credit card and half a brain) who wishes to order them."
I would much rather see a plane produced as a corporate release (that we can get) then not produced at all!
If you don't want to call then email. Internet access is certainly cheaper and sometimes faster than calling. Didn't know that many people on this forum were without credit cards. Here in the US the credit card companies are crawling all over themselves trying to get credit cards to even teenagers. Usually most countries have major banks issuing credit cards. If yours does not you might consider it a blessing in disguise as many people are in more debt than they handle thanks to easy access and the misguided promise that you can have it all...now!
Woo..Hoo Dave is here. It would be my honor that Dave stop by and spent some time answering my thread.
First of all, you guys misunderstand my thread. I am very happy that GJ doing more and more corporate models lately.
Yes, I have and can order using credit card, but a lot of not so fortunate collectors don't.
The one I am object to is that GJ is still trying to say From Collectors TO Collectors kind of thing by saying their Corporate models will be available to everyone. Stop it. Corporate model is not available for everyone EQUALLY. GJ cannot survive depending on collectors only and they realize it. They will be doing more and more in the future.
Do they have to say "Since the airline has assured us that the models will be available to everyone who wish to order it" EVRYTIME they announce a corporate model? Jesssshh.....It is ridiculous.
Originally posted by Garuda Woo..Hoo Dave is here. It would be my honor that Dave stop by and spent some time answering my thread.
First of all, you guys misunderstand my thread. I am very happy that GJ doing more and more corporate models lately.
Yes, I have and can order using credit card, but a lot of not so fortunate collectors don't.
The one I am object to is that GJ is still trying to say From Collectors TO Collectors kind of thing by saying their Corporate models will be available to everyone. Stop it. Corporate model is not available for everyone EQUALLY. GJ cannot survive depending on collectors only and they realize it. They will be doing more and more in the future.
Do they have to say "Since the airline has assured us that the models will be available to everyone who wish to order it" EVRYTIME they announce a corporate model? Jesssshh.....It is ridiculous.
Garuda,
It says "anyone who wishes to order them". No one's forcing you to buy it dude.
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Originally posted by AUS2001
...It says "anyone who wishes to order them". No one's forcing you to buy it...
Well, doesn't that just wax my carrot! I did not wish to order them and the damned things showed up on my doorstep anyway... Now what am I supposed to do with them? This sucks.
Originally posted by tdh8192 Well, doesn't that just wax my carrot! I did not wish to order them and the damned things showed up on my doorstep anyway... Now what am I supposed to do with them? This sucks.
Well...with Tom waxing his carrot, and FlyFrontier honking his hooter...I think we all need this upcoming 3-day weekend!
But I can still say what I like and what I dislike here. Right? AUS dude!
Keep cool, Garuda. Some people simply are not able to talk in a professional and moderate way. You can always smell these rats being around, disappearing for a certain period of time and, then again, returning to this place, always being open for a primitive statement. Don't worry. Your opinion is as good as anyone's opnion - and by far better than these idiots' way of response.
As for your problems with JetBlue: Give them a call (or drop them a line) and they will surely find a good solution for you if you do not have a credit card.
Keep cool, Garuda. Some people simply are not able to talk in a professional and moderate way. You can always smell these rats being around, disappearing for a certain period of time and, then again, returning to this place, always being open for a primitive statement. Don't worry. Your opinion is as good as anyone's opnion - and by far better than these idiots' way of response.
As for your problems with JetBlue: Give them a call (or drop them a line) and they will surely find a good solution for you if you do not have a credit card.
Aren't you the self rightous one there Leitender!
Go back and reread Garudas post(s) and you will find that a credit card is not his problem.
I may be "primative" but I know how to read.
And you call us "idiot"?
Originally posted by tdh8192 Well, doesn't that just wax my carrot! I did not wish to order them and the damned things showed up on my doorstep anyway... Now what am I supposed to do with them? This sucks.
Hahahahahahaha!!!! That's hilarious. I am looking forward to MCO!!!!
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Keep cool, Garuda. Some people simply are not able to talk in a professional and moderate way. You can always smell these rats being around, disappearing for a certain period of time and, then again, returning to this place, always being open for a primitive statement. Don't worry. Your opinion is as good as anyone's opnion - and by far better than these idiots' way of response.
As for your problems with JetBlue: Give them a call (or drop them a line) and they will surely find a good solution for you if you do not have a credit card.
Yeah you talk about people not being professional and moderate and then you call us rats and idiots. HMMMMM...makes you wonder...
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Yeah you talk about people not being professional and moderate and then you call us rats and idiots. HMMMMM...makes you wonder...
Well, AUS2001, if you really expect people to talk moderately to you although you called someone else "dude", then I must say that your are quite high-handed, aren't you?!
Well, AUS2001, if you really expect people to talk moderately to you although you called someone else "dude", then I must say that your are quite high-handed, aren't you?!
Your inability to understand a quip is quite stunning. Another synonym I could have used would be "guy". Or I could have just stooped to your level and called him an "idiot".
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There are places all over the world that is not as fortunate as you guys in the state and internet access is not possible................
I have met with a lot of 40+ years old (early generation than us) collectors that is totally blind in term of computer, not to mention internet and email.......................
There are places where a Credit Card simply inexist.................
While a traditional normal distribution still can reach this guys, a corporate and exclusive releases like JetBlue, CX, Airshop, SkyJets400, Airbus, Jal Disney and so on simply out of reach. Even if they want the models.
So JetBlue must be lying when they said they can assure GJ that the jetBlue models is available for anyone who want them.... or .... GJ must have come up with the statement just to please you guys who were very proud of GJ who only released models to public in the past, while at the same time the statement really offend people who were not able to get it.
Just says that it is a corporate models and only available at blah...blah...blah. End of story. Nobody is complaining. As I said before, Corporate models is the one that keep Herpa, Dragon, GJ stay in this kind of business..... so don't be shy GJ! Do the corporate models more and forget about from collectors to collectors kind of thing......
Again, it is not about me, but collectors in general.
"I do not like GJ saying as if thier corporate model is still available for everyone"
And your response was:
"It says "anyone who wishes to order them". No one's forcing you to buy it dude."
Can you see any relevance. You just cannot accept people to criticize GJ, don't you?
What?!?!?!?!?!!!! I can't believe I waste my time responding to crap like this. I can't accept people criticizing GJ? HELLO?! I've criticized GJ in the past....for the colors on the HP A319 for example! So what are you talking about?!
Let's make this as painless as possible. You said you have no problem with these being corporate releases, but GJ shouldn't have said "However, the airline has assured us that they will be available to anyone who wishes to order them." Answer this: Were you able to order the JetBlue models? YES! You could have ordered them right?! So this statement they made is true. Are they banning orders from GarudaLand? Not the last time I checked. So what is the problem?....oh oh...I know....you have to pay more S/H charges and a freakin phone call to the US costs you $50 US! Damn.
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Well, I think this JetBlue case is not the first one in which GJ made us "oversea" collectors painful. For example, you have to mail order the AF 777 from somewhere in France. I'm quite happy that I have no interest in Jet Blue so that I don't have to worry about if I have a credit card or Internet access or dialing long distance to place my order.
Garuda,
This is real life. People from no matter DW or GJ, are business persons. They can smell the money better than you and me. If JetBlue approached GJ and said, "Hey! Asher, Do you want to make big money?", I don't think GJ would reject it, eh? If GJ rejected it, DW would get the project and things couldn't be better.
That is why I said just don't say it is available for anyone.
By the way the page that explain the JetBlue models has been deleted. Now, GJ only list the pictures. Feeling so much better and I will put some smile in here . Case Close.
Originally posted by Garuda Aus2001, can you distinguish between ME and ANYONE?
Sure I can. Anyone can get the model. You just can't accept the price of getting the model, but you CAN GET THE MODEL. I don't know where you got the idea of "not everyone has credit cards" because they also take money orders. Maybe if you ask JetBlue, you might be able to trade in a few sacks of rice for the model set. The fact of the matter is that if JetBlue says models can only be produced if they are sold exclusively through the company, then is GJ going to say, "alright forget about it....we won't produce these and leave all the collectors that requested them hanging - because some people might only be able to pay in rice, and your store only takes MO and CCs."? You are obviously allowed to buy the models, either from JB or on the secondary market, but the price of obtaining said items is clearly the issue that is irking you.
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Garuda,
Is that you? Only afford to pay some rice for a model? I personally can only pay some wheat or fat from my butt, maybe just you pay them rice....
I think what Garuda might be saying is that some pygmy in the depths of the Congo who is without an internet connection, computer illiterate, and with a bad credit rating will not be able to get these models and , gentleman, he is absolutley correct. So cut him some slack already! Does the U.N. know about this?
Originally posted by Dan I think what Garuda might be saying is that some pygmy in the depths of the Congo who is without an internet connection, computer illiterate, and with a bad credit rating will not be able to get these models and , gentleman, he is absolutley correct. So cut him some slack already! Does the U.N. know about this?
Hey, some pygmy who is without an internet connection, computer illiterate, and with a bad credit rating in the depths of the Congo might also *wish to buy* a few of those old 747s Continental is selling on their website, but can he?
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Originally posted by Dan I think what Garuda might be saying is that some pygmy in the depths of the Congo who is without an internet connection, computer illiterate, and with a bad credit rating will not be able to get these models and , gentleman, he is absolutley correct. So cut him some slack already! Does the U.N. know about this?
Well, actually, Garuda did say that he does not like GJ to say their 'corporate models are available for everyone' if the methods of payment etc. are limited to a very few options.
Therefore, your ironic interpretation ("... I *think* what Garuda might be saying is... ") is a ***** worth, right?! Sorry.
Hey, some pygmy who is without an internet connection, computer illiterate, and with a bad credit rating in the depths of the Congo might also *wish to buy* a few of those old 747s Continental is selling on their website, but can he?
He can if National Geographic is in his neck of the woods.
Oh ya, they know what I am talking about. They just do not like it and decided to deflect the topic to something else. Very soon Aus2001 will say " My Dad can beat you Dad..." kind of thing. Well at least this thread will bring me to 100+post very soon.
Originally posted by Garuda Oh ya, they know what I am talking about. They just do not like it and decided to deflect the topic to something else. Very soon Aus2001 will say " My Dad can beat you Dad..." kind of thing. Well at least this thread will bring me to 100+post very soon.
MY MOM CAN BEAT YOUR DAD!
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You know what I mean. your mom AND my dad??? I am not sure who beat who.
Here is another one:
I like Plastic Wings better than Metal Wings? What do you say? Boy, you are so easy.
Yeah, if your dad was half as annoying as you are, I wouldn't be surprised if he would hit a woman. You obviously don't read enough posts around here to go on ASSuming that I'm a big GJ fan and I hate DW because of their plastic parts. If you knew anything about me, you'd know that my collection is split down the line between GJs and DWs, and I love DW's 717, MD80, and 747 moulds.
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