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Old 10-29-2012, 02:35 PM   #1
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My collection of 1/400 post WWII Lufthansa models consists of 27 planes. Photographing with a new Olympus macro lens received today, and I plan to add images until I'm finished, or Washington, D.C. goes dark from a power outage caused by sweet Sandy which is running wild on the East Coast. And once we're without power, it'll be down for days or weeks. Anyway here's the first installment with others to follow this afternoon, weather permitting... Keep 'em flying, Doug

OK, got 'em all uploaded. Bunch of white whales, but I like 'em, and how 'bout that Condor 757-300 - you can't not like that.... No Lufthansa special liveries here, don't favor 'em, but that's just me.
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Great collection Doug, specially the A300, as well as the Fokker 50.
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Wow, nice collection. I especially like the way you have photographed them, just a few at a time from each era.
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Great collection and great photos you have there Doug. Hope you and other forum members on your eastern seaboard don't get too much disruption from 'Sandy'
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Great collection Doug. For your historical collection, there are still some Aeroclassics LH Boeing 707s and 720s and a Gemini blue tail 737-200 to add. I am looklng for that SMA white-tail 737-100 you have there which is a real rare bird.
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Thanks for all the kind responses. Mathieu - your diecast airliner photos are creative - I can learn from your techniques. 'Lufthansaboy' - Washington D.C. missed the worst side of Sandy - we were lucky. Adrian - I picked 707 D-ABOV for it's chrome belly and as representative of the AeroClassics extensive collection of LH 707s and 720s. Also, chrome is sharp and an eye-catcher, but I've never seen actually seen a plane with bare metal that shiny, altho I believe LH used to polish and lacquer their metal bellies, and they looked good. I do agree that I could use that GJ 737-200 you suggested.

Statistically: $782.50 total spent on Lufthansa models (omitting the Condor 753) for an average price of $29 per model (shipping would bump that up considerably - should shipping/handling be included as part of price? - probably not, but it's a major component of the cost). Manufacturer breakdown: AeroClassics (14); Dragon Wings (6); Phoenix Models (3); Soverign (1); Gemini Jets (1); Herpa (1); and JC Wings (1). An enjoyable hobby, and it keeps me out of the bars... Later, Doug

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Nice -100 series 737
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Super Lufdthansa fans!! but seems missing a new color 732 and 737~haha
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I do agree that I could use that GJ 737-200 you suggested.

Statistically: $782.50 total spent on Lufthansa models (omitting the Condor 753) for an average price of $29 per model (shipping would bump that up considerably - should shipping/handling be included as part of price? - probably not, but it's a major component of the cost). Manufacturer breakdown: AeroClassics (14); Dragon Wings (6); Phoenix Models (3); Soverign (1); Gemini Jets (1); Herpa (1); and JC Wings (1). An enjoyable hobby, and it keeps me out of the bars... Later, Doug
Great early collection as well as the later cheatline models. I agree with others in eventually rounding out your collection with the 732 and 722. At least from the perspective of collecting, shipping/handling would fall under fixed direct operating costs. Your only variable in escaping part of these costs is to purchase more than one aircraft from the same retailer.
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fazeman: "Great early collection as well as the later cheatline models. I agree with others in eventually rounding out your collection with the 732..."
Steve, I'm working the issue, Doug
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Hi Sir, Who made the Lufthansa Cargo and Lufthansa 742 "Old colors" ?

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Steve, I'm working the issue, Doug
Doug, I have three of each and will sell a 727 & 737 together for $38.00 + $8.00 shipping = $46.00 total. Let me know.
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Milovesushi: "Hi Sir, Who made the Lufthansa Cargo and Lufthansa 742 "Old colors".

Good Morning, Toronto - both are Dragon Wings. These models come in two versions: painted silver bellies or chrome, and these are the chrome ones. DW 747s remain my favorites. Thanks, Doug
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Fazeman: "Doug, I have three of each and will sell a 727 & 737 together..."

Hi, Steve - stuck back there in one of my Lufthansa images is an AeroClassics blue cheatline/chrome belly 722, so I'm alright there, and I appreciate your very reasonable offer for the 722 and 732, but a couple of days ago, I ordered the Gemini 732 from Toronto, along with the delivery American Airlines 707 by AeroClassics. I had the latter once, as part of a 21 plane American Airlines fleet that I sold wholesale. The AA 707 is so iconic that I had to have it again, so I bought it a second time - yeah, I'm a slave to this hobby. Keep 'em flying, Doug
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Hi, Steve - stuck back there in one of my Lufthansa images is an AeroClassics blue cheatline/chrome belly 722, so I'm alright there, and I appreciate your very reasonable offer for the 722 and 732, but a couple of days ago, I ordered the Gemini 732 from Toronto, along with the delivery American Airlines 707 by AeroClassics. I had the latter once, as part of a 21 plane American Airlines fleet that I sold wholesale. The AA 707 is so iconic that I had to have it again, so I bought it a second time - yeah, I'm a slave to this hobby. Keep 'em flying, Doug
Both are GJs that I thought would go well with your DC-10s but I didn't contact you early enough to give you that '80s paint scheme option. My bad considering you live in Maryland. The GJ 732 is a cute model and I'm glad you found one. Aeroclassics corners the 707 market and because this aircraft began the massive swing to the jet age and looks so damn good, yeah, I would definitely keep them in my inventory.

Speaking of Maryland, I recently helped my brother move from Germantown back to Virginia Beach. Couldn't get over having to pay 5 cents for a bag at any store. Montgomery County loves their money.
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Very interesting album, beautiful model plane, excellent photography technology. Great!
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Steve: "Couldn't get over having to pay 5 cents for a bag at any store. Montgomery County loves their money." I have a love/hate relationship with MoCo - not a bad place to live, but the traffic congestion is getting untenable - being the retired dude that I am, I try not to drive before 10am or after 2pm - that might the biggest retirement benefit of all. The 5 cents for bags is a green thing - c'mon, get with the program.

Donghangfong: Thank you for your kind comments. I enjoy photographing my models almost as much as collection them, and I often see details in close-up images that the naked eye misses. This is a great hobby. Keep 'em flying, Doug Seeley
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If I were the Captain, right about now I'd be informing the pax that I was having a bad day and that they should assume the crash position - how does one delete a mistaken response? Not trying to build up my post count, just tripping over my own feet... Doug

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The 5 cents for bags is a green thing - c'mon, get with the program. Keep 'em flying, Doug Seeley
I'd get with the program because I hate plastic bags. But I'd feel awkward walking into a store with my own bag believing someone would think I'm a robber.
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Milovesushi: "Hi Sir, Who made the Lufthansa Cargo and Lufthansa 742 "Old colors".

Good Morning, Toronto - both are Dragon Wings. These models come in two versions: painted silver bellies or chrome, and these are the chrome ones. DW 747s remain my favorites. Thanks, Doug
What can you say about the Aeroclassics version of it? I just ordered them the 6 pcs set of Old Lufthansa. . I wonder how they look like . .
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milovesushi: What can you say about the Aeroclassics version of it? I just ordered them the 6 pcs set of Old Lufthansa. . I wonder how they look like."

I have just done data base searches for Aeroclassics Lufthansa 747s, here on DA.C, and on Aeroclassics own site, and I find no examples listed. I imagine you'll be happy with your 747 fleet that you are about to receive - let us know how the models look when you receive them. Thanks, Doug
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Its aeroclassics im sorry.. try to check D-ABYA..
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milovesushi: "Its aeroclassics im sorry.. try to check D-ABYA.."

Right you are - just because a model is not listed in a database does not mean it doesn't exist...

OK - here are my reasons for why I prefer Dragon Wings 747s (see attached images):
1.) The wing to fuselage fairing seems more accurate than any of the other moulds; and
2.) Dragon Wings uses plastic for everything except the fuselage - some don't like the plastic, but for fine detail in 1/400, it seems best to me.
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Yeahhh dragon wings is good manufacturer of 747 no doubt about it,
Ill post some image once it arrives..

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The Gemini Jets Lufthansa 737-200 has arrived from Toronto.

OK, Lufthansa was the launch customer for the 737-100 series, placing an order for 21 aircraft in February, 1965. LH eventually took delivery of 22 total -100s. D-AEBA was the first delivered (April 68) and please note the 'experimental' notation behind the rear door (that's why I love photographing these models - I had not seen that feature on the model until I looked at the image).

The 737-200 series incorporated a number of improvements, and was 1.8m or 6 ft. longer than the -100 series. Lufthansa took delivery of 43 examples of the -200, including D-ABFX, a -230, delivered in May of 1981.

Pictured are Sovereign SOVDLH004 D-AEBA, the first delivery -130, and Gemini Jets GJDLH195 D-ABFX, a -230. Both models are good (but both have painted silver bellies, not polished metal or chrome) - each seems better than the other in certain features - judge for yourself. Keep 'em flying, Doug
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Nice collection Doug!
My favorites of your fleet come from Dragon Wings. The chrome belly and GE engines/correct pylons look really sharp. I had the pleasure of a trip aboard one back in the nineties. Also the DC-10 and MD-11 round out the latter McD fleet.
You've got a dynamic focus with some to find airframes~ Lufthansa is one of the nicer Eurowhite schemes out there. Very cool.

Oh btw congratulation on your new camera. The images look razor sharp. Keep em' posting!
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D-AEBA was the first delivered (April 68)...
I would like to throw a stone in the pond without getting anyone wet.

I wonder if the above livery for the -100 series existed other than on the Boeing assembly line or during the test flights. The only pictures I have ever seen of the LH 737-100 in white tail D-ABEA were taken in those circumstances, and I suspect that it was never used in revenue service.

My thoughts are based on this evidence:
  • Even if it was the first 737 airframe ever manufactured, it was not the first delivered. In fact, D-ABEA was delivered to LH in April 1968 when D-ABEB/C/D/F/G/K/L already were with the airline. D-ABEB & D-ABEC had actually been accepted at the very end of 1967.
  • I have never seen any other LH 737-100 with the white tail other than D-ABEA. Hence, all other 737-100 should have been delivered in the blue tail scheme, and it would make sense that D-ABEA made its debut into service only when repainted in the newer colors.
I like both piggies very much, but probably the older LH scheme should be regarded as the 737 pre-delivery scheme.
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Tony: "...probably the older LH scheme should be regarded as the 737 pre-delivery scheme."

Your research is better than mine - I went back and checked the production history from Boeing 737-100 and 200 by Michael Sharpe & Robbie Shaw, and you are correct with your delivery dates. Also a search of airliners.net reveals only the blue tailed version. All good, Doug
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