Aeroclassics for Nov released

arinmuk · 10-03-2012, 08:23 PM

Aer Lingus F-27 EI-AKA
Air Berlin A320 Orbest Portugal hybrid livery EC-KDD
Air Cairo A320 SU-BPU
Air UK F-27 G-BDDH
China Airlines A320 3B-RGY
Cyprus Airways A320 5B-DCG Aphrodite
Egypt Air A320 SU-GBD small title Taba
Egypt Air A320 SU-GCC large title
Iberworld A320 Blue tail livery EC-IAG
Iberworld A320 Orbest Portugal hybrid livery EC-KYZ
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines F-27 PH-SAD Blue nose livery Evert Van Duk
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines F-27 PH-SAR Black nose livery
Luxair F-27 LX-LGA Blue livery with white nose
Luxair F-27 LX-LGB white livery
Luxair F-27 LX-LGJ Blue livery with black nose
Martinair A320 EC-HZU
Mexicana A320 Retro livery N405MX
Mexicana DC-10-15 XA-MEW Popocatepetl
NLM Nederlandse Luchtvaart Maatschappy F-27 PH-KFA Jan Dellaert
Northwest Airlink F-27 N275MA
Royal Air Maroc Caravelle CN-CCX
Sabena A320 OO-SNE
Swiss A320 HB-JLS
Swissair CV-990 HB-ICC
Syrian Air A320 YK-AKF Amrit
Tunis Air Caravelle TS-TAR
UTA DC-10-30 F-BTDB
Wardair Canada DC-10-30 C-GFHX Stan McMillan

shandaken · 10-03-2012, 08:27 PM

Err..these are for October actually.

arinmuk · 10-03-2012, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by shandaken

Err..these are for October actually.

Fixed. thanks

aklein707 · 10-03-2012, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by arinmuk

Aer Lingus F-27 EI-AKA
Air Berlin A320 Orbest Portugal hybrid livery EC-KDD
Air Cairo A320 SU-BPU
Air UK F-27 G-BDDH
China Airlines A320 3B-RGY
Cyprus Airways A320 5B-DCG Aphrodite
Egypt Air A320 SU-GBD small title Taba
Egypt Air A320 SU-GCC large title
Iberworld A320 Blue tail livery EC-IAG
Iberworld A320 Orbest Portugal hybrid livery EC-KYZ
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines F-27 PH-SAD Blue nose livery Evert Van Duk
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines F-27 PH-SAR Black nose livery
Luxair F-27 LX-LGA Blue livery with white nose
Luxair F-27 LX-LGB white livery
Luxair F-27 LX-LGJ Blue livery with black nose
Martinair A320 EC-HZU
Mexicana A320 Retro livery N405MX
Mexicana DC-10-15 XA-MEW Popocatepetl
NLM Nederlandse Luchtvaart Maatschappy F-27 PH-KFA Jan Dellaert
Northwest Airlink F-27 N275MA
Royal Air Maroc Caravelle CN-CCX
Sabena A320 OO-SNE
Swiss A320 HB-JLS
Swissair CV-990 HB-ICC
Syrian Air A320 YK-AKF Amrit
Tunis Air Caravelle TS-TAR
UTA DC-10-30 F-BTDB
Wardair Canada DC-10-30 C-GFHX Stan McMillan

And who the f-ck proclaimed you as the AC spokesperson??

Abraham · 10-03-2012, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by aklein707

And who the f-ck proclaimed you as the AC spokesperson??

Haha nice!

By the way...would love to see an Aloha or Mahalo Air F-27. Pwwwweeetty pwwweease wit sugar in top?

arinmuk · 10-03-2012, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by aklein707

And who the f-ck proclaimed you as the AC spokesperson??

What do you mean ? This a forum and I can post from the email i received from one of stores

No reason for you to go bad mouthing anyone here and for any reason ,definitely do not become an A***Hole as I believed you were much above that.

Gunship01 · 10-03-2012, 09:10 PM

Thank the Lord they are mostly small birds. I can get caught up on the biggins' from last month.

Though I will say the Mexicana DC-10 does have some nice lines, great color. This from an anti-classics guy.

hilman · 10-03-2012, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by arinmuk

What do you mean ? This a forum and I can post from the email i received from one of stores

No reason for you to go bad mouthing anyone here and for any reason and definitely do not become an A***Hole as I believed you were much above that.

touche...

just look at mr. klein comment here

http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...tvx-again.html

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Originally Posted by aklein707

This is a public forum; why should you care who posts an opinion?

owenma · 10-04-2012, 12:18 AM

China Airlines for me..

MrMD11 · 10-04-2012, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by hilman

touche...

just look at mr. klein comment here

http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...tvx-again.html

Just to play devil's advocate for a second - would this list really be considered an opinion?

Big Al · 10-04-2012, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by aklein707

And who the f-ck proclaimed you as the AC spokesperson??

This is a web forum for the discussion of 1:400 die cast models. Every month somebody 'announces' the new releases of all or most of the manufacturers including Aeroclassics. Generally speaking those release announcments are NOT exclusively revealed here and are quoting or copy and pasting information already revealed elsewhere (normally a sales e-mail from an AC dealer).

To have a go at the original poster for passing on such information is somewhat childish I'd say. Andrew, if you choose to come on DAC just to lambast other posters and run down the competition then I'd suggest (for the benefit of those who use these forums for genuine model talk) you stick to posting on the other forum where people tend to hang on your every word more so.

Too many grown men acting like kids here !

Big Al · 10-04-2012, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by MrMD11

Just to play devil's advocate for a second - would this list really be considered an opinion?

No but in certain quarters it appears to be classified information. As said by the man himself, it's a public forum...who cares ? I presume it's just a matter of time before AC sales are limited to fully vetted and approved individuals, let alone dealers !

Adrian · 10-04-2012, 04:07 AM

That list will break my bank! I can't believe I am reading so many of my 'holy grails' in one month's releases! At last the Fokker F27 mould's potential is being realised after so many requests. Two gorgeous Caravelles there also. I know Andrew is mad that one of his dealers has leaked this out before they are officially announced, but wow what a fantastic list!!

Having said that, pics of all these are up on AirplaneReplicas site:
http://www.airplanereplicas.com/inde...iewCat&catId=1

Big Al · 10-04-2012, 04:30 AM

But to talk models again... What a great selection this month, I love the Aer Lingus and Air UK Fokkers, a green top Lingus release in 1:400 at last and hopefully the first of many more in that livery.

I used to see that blue Air UK livery at GLA a lot in the 80's one of my favourite all time liveries in fact. The DC-10 selection also is excellent, what chance a British Caledonian or BA Landor soon ? It would also be great to get a Tristar mould as good as the DC-10 (nudge, wink etc...)

iftikhi · 10-04-2012, 05:11 AM

Love to see PIA F-27.

Condor757 · 10-04-2012, 07:34 AM

Stay cool.

Garuda747400 · 10-04-2012, 07:45 AM

I thought I might have to file for bankruptcy when I saw the list but after checking the liverys, I chose nothing because the liverys were too early in time, I would have liked the new livery Cyprus Airways and last Air UK livery, but nice selection.

As for Andrew he can't control the internet but If you want to be in the loop Arin its best not to exploit it.

Kitty Hawk 1903 · 10-04-2012, 10:23 AM

Excellent set of releases this month. As for the early announcement,perhaps Aeroclassics can request that all dealers hold off on the mass Email to customers,until the approved spokesperson makes it public knowledge on the forums? I think the displeasure comment should have been made in private.

Big Al · 10-04-2012, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Kitty Hawk 1903

Excellent set of releases this month. As for the early announcement,perhaps Aeroclassics can request that all dealers hold off on the mass Email to customers,until the approved spokesperson makes it public knowledge on the forums? I think the displeasure comment should have been made in private.

Alternatively try talking to whichever dealer leaked the info over a week ago. The original poster has done nothing wrong here (IMHO).

aklein707 · 10-04-2012, 11:42 AM

It's the same dealers, who habitually abuse the privileged info, yet complain when they're kept out of the loop.
Still looking for the happy medium!!

shandaken · 10-04-2012, 02:34 PM

Look who needs a rubby rubby at Ghuangzhou's House of Bang Bang....

RStretton · 10-04-2012, 03:32 PM

These are some great releases and I'd love to get hold of the Mesaba F-27, Air UK F-27 and Tunisian Caravelle. Shame AC models are so hard to get in NZ and Waffle doesn't stock them (his shipping rates are sensible). AirplaneReplicas rates look shocking ($40 for 2 models!! when Waffle can do about 6 for $28).

Does anyone know of an AC stockist with sensible postage rates?

aklein707 · 10-04-2012, 04:11 PM

I think all those who stock AC are only charging what their post office dictates.

Surely you don't expect a dealer to buy an AC model from their distributor, for say $25, offer it to you for $35 ($10 profit), then sent it to you for $15 when the post office will charge him/her $26.

Why don't you try CAM Australia? They're close by! There are numerous Asian based dealers too, and several on US West coast, such as Jet Collector, Just Plane Fun, & Eztoys!!

RStretton · 10-04-2012, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by aklein707

I think all those who stock AC are only charging what their post office dictates.

Surely you don't expect a dealer to buy an AC model from their distributor, for say $25, offer it to you for $35 ($10 profit), then sent it to you for $15 when the post office will charge him/her $26.

No I expect them to have websites that automatically tell me how much postage is without me having to guess or hope that they are fair when they charge me $100 for 5 models and promise to give me a refund if postage is less! Maybe I'm just spoilt by Waffle's great site?

Thanks for the suggestions though, I may try CAM and did e-mail airplanereplicas who to be fair have been quick and helpful and do actually charge sensible postage albeit through the charge your card and then pay you back afterwards route.

We all know that many ac stockists on ebay charge silly pricing for postage.

RStretton · 10-04-2012, 04:30 PM

CAM don't even list which AC models they have on their website which doesn't fill me with much hope! Still I have e-mailed them to see what they have.

Kitty Hawk 1903 · 10-04-2012, 04:34 PM

Why don't you try CAM Australia? They're close by!

It's only 2150 Kilometers to Sydney from Auckland,an afternoon maybe in the row boat.

Seriously though,it is a great deal closer than North America. I can certainly back Andrew with the postage rates. I know for a fact,that AirplaneReplicas has never charged me a single penny more than it cost Zareh to ship.

RStretton · 10-04-2012, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Kitty Hawk 1903

Why don't you try CAM Australia? They're close by!

It's only 2150 Kilometers to Sydney from Auckland,an afternoon maybe in the row boat.

Seriously though,it is a great deal closer than North America. I can certainly back Andrew with the postage rates. I know for a fact,that AirplaneReplicas has never charged me a single penny more than it cost Zareh to ship.

Thanks. I was able to get the NW and UK F-27s from eztoyz (thanks arinmuk) where both models are only $32 and postage for both to NZ was $14.

AirplaneReplicas have a good range though and Zareh was very helpful so I may well shop with them for other models.

Kitty Hawk 1903 · 10-04-2012, 05:49 PM

Excellent,as long as you found the models you want. We have been to Eztoyz on our San Diego trip. He has a few models on display.

I believe my bill came in at around $400.00. To get away with that,it did cost me a nice dinner for my wife that evening.

arinmuk · 10-04-2012, 06:40 PM

If it makes any difference, last month zareh refunded 5 USD which was the extra amount on the shipping that paid. I cannot ever think of one occasion where Zareh has charged 10 cents more on postage than the actual value.

Thomas32125 · 10-04-2012, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by arinmuk

Swiss A320 HB-JLS

I was really looking forward to this, but it has quite some flaws, which i'll need to correct..

Let me explain which features i am missing on HB-JLS, because i flew on LS' sister LR recently and looked closely at the new livery:

Model picture: AirplaneReplicas.Com - The Source For 1/400 Models - Swiss International A320 - (Powered by CubeCart)

1st picture shows: Wrong cockpit windows: LX has silver window frames, the sensors below the 'W' are silver, not circled with red..
2nd picture shows: No exit markings on the emergency exits, no red T markings below the reg and nose
3rd picture shows: No name, by the way JLS is named: Niederhasli which is printed even bigger on the nose (look at the jp pics)
4th picture shows: winglets are white, not grey - no yellow flap track fairing tips..

To me the cockpit windows are the biggest flaw, plus the grey wintip fences, which could have been done correctly after looking at one picture of the real thing.. Paying 35USD or more for an A320 should result in a flawless model.. The fact, that AC's LH D-AIRX had completely wrong colored wings stopped me from buying it, but i'll go for this LX and convert it to JLR this time as i don't think it's a sample picture..

Prop-Jet Electra · 10-04-2012, 07:21 PM

Good to see all the F-27s - that's a great little mould.

AnonCollector · 10-04-2012, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by aklein707

It's the same dealers, who habitually abuse the privileged info, yet complain when they're kept out of the loop.
Still looking for the happy medium!!

The happy medium probably doesn't include lashing out at a blameless person.

aklein707 · 10-04-2012, 10:40 PM

Nobody is blameless; that's the way of the world!

I know under Obummer, he has taught us all to blame anyone else, like Bush, but clearly that just doesn't hold water any more.

LACA773 · 10-05-2012, 04:44 AM

I appreciate the comprehensive list AC comes out with every month. I feel they do the Airbus nb fleet the best. I hope they will eventually come out with the 737NG and E70/75, E90/95 since so many of us have been waiting a long time for someone to come out with these in the 400 scale.

I will be ordering the SWISS A320 for now. I hope AC will also come out with the A319 and A321s, in the current, revised block letter livery and the Swiss International scheme.

AnonCollector · 10-05-2012, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by aklein707

Nobody is blameless; that's the way of the world!

I know under Obummer, he has taught us all to blame anyone else, like Bush, but clearly that just doesn't hold water any more.

An incoherent response, distracting attention from the fact that you're the one who committed the foul here by lashing out needlessly at somebody. There's some irony in there somewhere.

Thailand Wings · 10-05-2012, 07:03 AM

PIA f-27 for me too...

Mystère · 10-05-2012, 01:34 PM

Great releases this month. Caravelles, UTA DC-10, some F-27s and maybe the Syrian Air. My banker won't be happy !

KLM B747-400F · 10-06-2012, 03:32 AM

There are some nice modells in the list..

Starpole · 10-06-2012, 03:55 AM

My wallet is safe..at least for this month

B2707300SST · 10-06-2012, 06:43 AM

Glad to see a Caravelle get some action. I cant believe its been half a century + since the Caravelle flew, and all one can get is the same series III/VI Avon engined airplane!......in 400 or 200 scale. Crazy.

Mystère · 10-06-2012, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by B2707300SST

Glad to see a Caravelle get some action. I cant believe its been half a century + since the Caravelle flew, and all one can get is the same series III/VI Avon engined airplane!......in 400 or 200 scale. Crazy.

Can't agree more. Tons of T7s or A330s and still no Caravelle 10 or 12 !

Alaska Fan · 10-06-2012, 02:32 PM

The Lixair F.27 LX-LGA ... can't read what's printed ... but should be Prince Henrí

The Luxair F.27 LX-LGB ... should be named "Prince Jean" ... "Prince Guillaume" was used on a 732 and an F50 ... but never on this F27

same for LX-LGJ ... which shouldn't have any name on the nose as clearly seen here ... I think the model has the name "Princess Marie-Astrid" ... which is another 732 not an F27

error probably comes from reading google search results, which show abbreviated page content, without actually clicking on the links themselves

Aviaction · 10-07-2012, 04:06 AM

Would dearly love some of these but have now just about given up.
So few are produced, I cannot get 2 of the previuos BEA heralds at a retail price.
With current economy I cannot afford to pre order or buy all on release.
Surely I am not alone on this?

At least gemini 200 re release if models are popular.

Big Al · 10-07-2012, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Aviaction

Would dearly love some of these but have now just about given up.
So few are produced, I cannot get 2 of the previuos BEA heralds at a retail price.
With current economy I cannot afford to pre order or buy all on release.
Surely I am not alone on this?

At least gemini 200 re release if models are popular.

I fully sympathise, that's the nature of Aeroclassics unfortunately. Whenever they release a multiple batch of British Airways or Aer Lingus stuff, it's like the bell going off in a fire station. Had to resort to e-bay to get one of the recent BA 737's as the dealer screwed up my order.

aklein707 · 10-07-2012, 01:06 PM

That's the difference between a "collectible item", and a mass produced toy.

AeroClassics produces fine collectibles.

Aviaction · 10-07-2012, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by aklein707

That's the difference between a "collectible item", and a mass produced toy.

AeroClassics produces fine collectibles.

And I respect that

But collectibles are no use if you can't buy them in the first place.

RStretton · 10-07-2012, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by aklein707

That's the difference between a "collectible item", and a mass produced toy.

AeroClassics produces fine collectibles.

Just because something is produced in numbers it doesn't make it not collectable or a toy - it is the quality of its production that matters. Certainly the production runs on some AC models are seemingly stupidly small, but nowadays it seems AC doesn't want to say how many models are produced anyway. By your logic surely something can only be truly collectable if the number existing is known?

Model manufacturing seems a bizarre business where end customers are merely tolerated and not valued. It's almost as if some of the manufacturers want to go out of business by being rude to clients, ignoring their wishes (or at least not undertaking market research), producing tiny production runs and openly slagging their customers.

Since AC itself is not involved in the after-sales market I fail to see why the collectability of the models is an issue for them other than for massaging their vanity. Surely it would be in the interest of both the manufacturer and customers to produce enough models of popular releases like the BEA Heralds for everyone who wants one.

I might add that people who collect 1:400 models to make money on them at some future date are in my opinion foolish and wasting their time!

Mystère · 10-07-2012, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RStretton

Just because something is produced in numbers it doesn't make it not collectable or a toy - it is the quality of its production that matters. Certainly the production runs on some AC models are seemingly stupidly small, but nowadays it seems AC doesn't want to say how many models are produced anyway. By your logic surely something can only be truly collectable if the number existing is known?

Model manufacturing seems a bizarre business where end customers are merely tolerated and not valued. It's almost as if some of the manufacturers want to go out of business by being rude to clients, ignoring their wishes (or at least not undertaking market research), producing tiny production runs and openly slagging their customers.

Since AC itself is not involved in the after-sales market I fail to see why the collectability of the models is an issue for them other than for massaging their vanity. Surely it would be in the interest of both the manufacturer and customers to produce enough models of popular releases like the BEA Heralds for everyone who wants one.

I might add that people who collect 1:400 models to make money on them at some future date are in my opinion foolish and wasting their time!

Can't agree more, although I wouldn't generalise to the whole diecast aircraft industry. And don't forget that Mr K makes his money in Putinland, gives you an idea of what he thinks business and customer care are...

Thomas32125 · 10-07-2012, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RStretton

Just because something is produced in numbers it doesn't make it not collectable or a toy - it is the quality of its production that matters. Certainly the production runs on some AC models are seemingly stupidly small, but nowadays it seems AC doesn't want to say how many models are produced anyway. By your logic surely something can only be truly collectable if the number existing is known?

Model manufacturing seems a bizarre business where end customers are merely tolerated and not valued. It's almost as if some of the manufacturers want to go out of business by being rude to clients, ignoring their wishes (or at least not undertaking market research), producing tiny production runs and openly slagging their customers.

Since AC itself is not involved in the after-sales market I fail to see why the collectability of the models is an issue for them other than for massaging their vanity. Surely it would be in the interest of both the manufacturer and customers to produce enough models of popular releases like the BEA Heralds for everyone who wants one.

I might add that people who collect 1:400 models to make money on them at some future date are in my opinion foolish and wasting their time!

You have just won the "hit the nail on its head"-award!

aklein707 · 10-07-2012, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RStretton

Just because something is produced in numbers it doesn't make it not collectable or a toy - it is the quality of its production that matters. Certainly the production runs on some AC models are seemingly stupidly small, but nowadays it seems AC doesn't want to say how many models are produced anyway. By your logic surely something can only be truly collectable if the number existing is known?

Model manufacturing seems a bizarre business where end customers are merely tolerated and not valued. It's almost as if some of the manufacturers want to go out of business by being rude to clients, ignoring their wishes (or at least not undertaking market research), producing tiny production runs and openly slagging their customers.

Since AC itself is not involved in the after-sales market I fail to see why the collectability of the models is an issue for them other than for massaging their vanity. Surely it would be in the interest of both the manufacturer and customers to produce enough models of popular releases like the BEA Heralds for everyone who wants one.

I might add that people who collect 1:400 models to make money on them at some future date are in my opinion foolish and wasting their time!

Easy for you to say; you're not the one fronting the money!