Gemini 250's still on life support

VC10

For February another DC3 !!



"GeminiJets takes die cast metal collectibles to a new level!

With the introduction of our 1/250th scale line of airliners, collecting has never been more exciting."

...............eh right ?

Planecrazy

The AA DC-3 looks beautiful except:

The wrong engines and cowlings

The landing gear structs are WAY off.

I am usually not one to nitpick models but these are major flaws in one of aviation history's holy grails!

I will probably still buy at least one.

tripoli

With all they could do with this line, this is just not flipping my pancake.

So close yet they just can't get there with them.

Aviaction

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Garuda747400

i would be interested in gemini 250 range if they released a interesting aircraft, dc-3 is too old for me and md-8? too small and skinny , 737 also .
would be interested in 747,757,767,777 . cant see them anytime soon though.......

VC10

March/April nothing ! "Collecting has never been more exciting". Do they do a 1:250 scale priest to adminster the last rites ?

Aviaction

It doesn't even get better....
The re-sale values of these now has gone through the floor (read worthless). Typically $10-$20 (UK£5-10)
So I can't even sell mine for decent money, except maybe the Delta DC8, but $/£ exchange rate so poor, I'll keep that for now.
Stuffed good and proper....

tripoli

Yep, either they start zapping out some more models under the 250 line or bury it. If they want to make it a go, they have to go and start popping out the models so the line can grow. The few models they have put out have been actually pretty nice, it would be great to see soem more 737's like Southwest or other liveries. Start doing those MD's some more in liveries that did well in other scales.
Heck, start committing to the product or it will fade away as it seems to be doing now. Right now it looks like an half hearted attempt that has no real backing. Terrible way to start something up.

tripoli

no comments after a couple of days, seems like the tumble weeds are rolling by on this line.

Aviaction

tripoli

Cool! Always wondered what the Gemini Jets 250 scaled division building looked like!

tripoli

Wow, I really expected someone would say something, especially after this point.

But it looks like they have got nothin.

Frankly, I would have posted somehting to say "hey, this line is not dead" or "give it a chance", but the silence is killer.

Yep, this line truly appears to be dead, which is sad as it really was looking to be a nice line.

COEWR

Quote: Originally Posted by tripoli Wow, I really expected someone would say something, especially after this point. But it looks like they have got nothin. Frankly, I would have posted somehting to say "hey, this line is not dead" or "give it a chance", but the silence is killer. Yep, this line truly appears to be dead, which is sad as it really was looking to be a nice line.

Quite right. I really like the 1/250 scale stuff by Gemini. Unfortunately, since the moulds are so expensive it will take some time to get more variety out there. I would love to see some models that would round out the collection. Not everyone likes the vintage schemes. Let’s see some current liveries, and enough of a variety to use that 1/250 scale airport mat that is on the reverse side of their 1/400 mat. The planes they have produced are awesome. I love the 737s and DC-8s. But you can’t build an airport out of 3 or 4 different moulds. I really hope the line survives long enough to see some new exciting stuff. It’s really too bad its not looking that way.fficeffice" />>>

GARUDAROD

I hear rumors that the 250 line has some life in it after all.
Don't be surprised if a widebody should happen to roll out from
the hangars in due time.

VC10

March / April .......... Nothing !
May...................... Nothing !

"GeminiJets takes die cast metal collectibles to a new level!

With the introduction of our 1/250th scale line of airliners, collecting has never been more exciting."

Could somebody define "exciting" in this context ?

gottols

Quote: Originally Posted by VC10 March / April .......... Nothing ! May...................... Nothing ! "GeminiJets takes die cast metal collectibles to a new level! With the introduction of our 1/250th scale line of airliners, collecting has never been more exciting." Could somebody define "exciting" in this context ?

It sure is unbelievable. Even with those few moulds available, we could have a myriad of liveries...

tripoli

This is soo exciting of a line alrighty there.


Someone is screwing the pooch.

funbird

Yes I agree GJ250 is absolutely riveting!!!!!

MDWTWA

Since I am new to this part of the forum, I'll keep my comments brief.

IS there a belief that the 1/250 line is artificially inhibited in market size since it isn't common with anything else currently produced? There are a few manufacturers in 1/200 and that could keep that line popular. But with Gemini being the only one producing 1/250, and thus there being nothing else to pair these up with in a diorama, is Gemini fighting a losing battle?

Think about it. For those in other scales in addition to this one, how much of your fleets are split amont multiple manufacturers? Being an odd scale means they are the only game in town.

Just a thought. I know the Wings of Pride MD-80 would look great parked next to the Inflight TW B-727-200, but since the scales don't match...

VC10

Yes they may well be fighting a losing battle, who knows ? They invite you to keep checking back on their website for updates but unfortunetaly they don't seem to have many updates.

When the range was released they put the following information on their website, and indeed that information has resided there untouched for the last few years :

Quote: Why 1/250th scale? After extensive research, we found the 1/250th scale to be a good size to build a range upon. The 1/400th model would have been too difficult to integrate the moving parts within such a small airframe. Whereas, utilizing a scale larger than 1/250th scale (i.e. 1/200th) would have posed space limitation problems for many collectors as more selection becomes available. Additionally, increased weight and volume would have led to a higher price. What will be the first models you can expect and when? The first releases in the Gemini250 line are available, notably the Delta and United DC-8-61s. Future releases will include Eastern Air Lines and Trans Caribbean. How many releases are there going to be per month? Because it is a priority to make these models highly collectible, we will not "flood" the market with this product. We anticipate to only have one release per month, and increase availability as additional subjects are added to the range. Will there be other subjects available aside from the DC-8? Absolutely.... We have already completed the prototypes of additional aircraft types and the range will include both classic and modern day jetliners. Please monitor the GeminiJets web site for upcoming announcements and details on our new Gemini250 range!

That was presumably their philosophy at the time. No sensible manufacturer "floods a market" unless they want to depress the market price and that comment was rather strange. The DC3 is neither a modern nor classic "Jetliner", but presumably it was an available mould that gave the illusion of keeping the range alive ? Common sense would suggest that if the 250 scale products were a sales success and as a result a profit centre for the manufacturer they would have added to the range and better promoted it. The fact that they have said not a thing (on their website) since it was first launched suggests they are either abyssmally poor at using this media for communication, or the product is not proving to be viable. In all likelyhood both.

If the 250 range doesn't work for them, then that is not really their fault, after all they gave it a shot and hoped to turn a profit. Nevertheless it would be helpful to know if they intend to ever promote the range. Perhaps they feel it is better to just keep quiet, shift the remaining stock and let it fade away. That seems to be what they are doing, and if it isn't they are being very remiss in cultivating that impression.

MarinerOne

Here may possibly lie the answer to everyone's concerns.

Out of all of the GJ250s produced so far, only two models are SOLD OUT.

If there's little or NO demand for something, the best thing to do is to quit while you're still ahead - or at least before you sit on any more inventory.

GeminiJets Online - Model Database

Aviaction

Wow! someone posted....

Only see one sold out?

Delta Dc8 was limited production. I had two. One now owned by another Forum member.

I may have noted before but my suspicion was the Gemini DC3 was a Phoenix mould. So nothing new.

Gone 1/200. where it's at.

Big problem is no-one wants my 1/250th Swiss B747. So will just keep my collection of GJ250, and this, in the loft to rot.

MarinerOne

Quote: Originally Posted by Aviaction Wow! someone posted.... Only see one sold out? Delta Dc8 was limited production. I had two. One now owned by another Forum member. I may have noted before but my suspicion was the Gemini DC3 was a Phoenix mould. So nothing new. Gone 1/200. where it's at. Big problem is no-one wants my 1/250th Swiss B747. So will just keep my collection of GJ250, and this, in the loft to rot.

Let's face it ... it just didn't make any sense to create a new scale inbetween 1/400 and 1/200. You either collect one or both scales, like I do.

Why would you want another scale to further complicate matters?

As much as I compliment GJ for their fine efforts in producing such detailed models, the timing just isn't right. Kind of like the Edsel. Great car. Bad timing.

Now that I think about it, it's akin to the A380. Superb engineering (except for the wiring gurus). Bad concept. Small market potential. Ultimately will a poor business model.

Garuda747400

Quote: Originally Posted by MarinerOne Here may possibly lie the answer to everyone's concerns. Out of all of the GJ250s produced so far, only two models are SOLD OUT. If there's little or NO demand for somethi