Gemini 250 737s wings flat as a pancake + fuselage tapers

HenryTenby · 06-09-2005, 11:03 PM

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TWALOVER · 06-10-2005, 12:37 AM

The GJ 250 line have many flaws. I refuse to collect them.

Galapagapop · 06-10-2005, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TWALOVER

The GJ 250 line have many flaws. I refuse to collect them.

Thanks for contributing, come back again!

Anyways I see some of these flaws but find that the models overall are of good quality, especially the Md-80 and Dc-8-61 moulds. Keep in mind this line is still very young, and like early GJ's will have things that need to be hammered out but in the meantime enjoy a beautiful plane made of METAL and with great printing.

Cheers!

gottols · 06-10-2005, 01:29 PM

Those short bodied DC-8-5x are no less attractive than the stretched ones....

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Originally Posted by Galapagapop

Thanks for contributing, come back again!

Anyways I see some of these flaws but find that the models overall are of good quality, especially the Md-80 and Dc-8-61 moulds. Keep in mind this line is still very young, and like early GJ's will have things that need to be hammered out but in the meantime enjoy a beautiful plane made of METAL and with great printing.

Cheers!

HenryTenby · 06-10-2005, 10:00 PM

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Flying Ace · 06-11-2005, 11:33 AM

As I recall, the first generation Aeroclassics were not anything to brag about either...but they are often prized among collectors today and diffcult to obtain. Point being no one knows for certain what these early attempts in this new line from Gemini will be worth down the road aways...same with any manufacturer. And overall reproduction quality and collectability do not necessarily run parallel or hand in hand.

I don't think Robert Metchick, founder of Aero Mini ever envisioned his planes would command the large sums of money they do today.

From what I do know about Gemini and since I have seen in their models since 2000 they appear very skilled in producing quality models at relatively affordable prices. Is Gemini the best model out there? No...they do not produce high end models nor do they cater to that market, that market being in the neighborhood in excess of $150 per model, which I also participate in. But they do produce very good models at affordable prices.

I can sometimes identify with the frustration of the manufacturers with some of the nonsense heard from collectors, especially when development costs are not completely known or considered.

Take for example color development. There was a discussion on the 400 scale forum not too long ago about color matching on different scale models. This is very true. One of the higher end manufacturers that I am just starting to branch into 1:100 scale, uses spectrophotometric techniques and computer graphics to account for aircraft size and shape so that colors are exactly mimetic to the actual aircraft. All of this is labor intensive and takes time and and cost is passed onto the consumer. This same manufacturer has some of the most advanced techniques for producing moulds ever. But to have such a precise model you are going to pay well over $200 for that and it is going to be rather large in size.

So back to the Gemini250 line: what you are getting is a very well made model at an incredibly reasonable price. If innaccuracies do exist such as wing dihedrals, wing thickness, etc, these are so negligible that they don't attract form the overall appearance of the model. I know Gemini has a good customer care program that is maintained on there website, so if there is a QC issue with one of their models, you should contact them before openly posting your gripe on an open forum. They are a big company.

As far as the G250 line, overall speaking, they are an extremely good value (overall quality for the price...you can't beat it) and they are a good size to build a range on. Of the moulds thus far, I personally think their DC-8's are the best...and I am having trouble deciding which would be next between their 738 amd MD-80 efforts.

Of what I have been able to find so far, these models are apparently being produced in limited production, but I haven't been able to find out just how limited. I do wish Gemini would provide some more details on production quantities.

Galapagapop · 06-11-2005, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by gottols

Those short bodied DC-8-5x are no less attractive than the stretched ones....

How could I forget!? The Aeromexico and UAL look great! Especially the AM with its chrome body.

gottols · 06-11-2005, 02:29 PM

If I recall correct, someone mentioned a limited run of 750 earlier this year. Or maybe Zack can verify/supply the correct figure.........................

Beau222 · 06-11-2005, 04:22 PM

I have recently rcvd the DL 1/250 737 and I have one question...HOW do you pop the nose gear down. I see a large opening that is towards the tail end of the plug and the front seam is much tighter towards the nose. I do not want to break anything so I don't want to push pull in either wrong direction. can anyone please tell me how to properly open the nose gear
Thanks
Beau

aviatorisu · 06-11-2005, 04:51 PM

Beau - I use a staple to get the gear down...it is sometimes hard the first couple of times, but you get the hang of it.

Gottols & Flying Ace - To my knowledge, the numbers are lower than what the 1:400 models are. I know for a fact that the Delta N/C MD-88 is the second most limited so far, only behind the Delta DC-8-61 of which only like 250-500 were produced I believe. I can also tell you that the United DC-8-61 just sold out of our warehouse, and it was only released about 9 months ago. Exact numbers I do not have, but I hope that helps.

Everyone else - I love these models. I have given up collecting 1:400 since I've got the whole line and have seen what is coming. Very exciting stuff for a larger scale! Like any model, I'm sure they do have their inaccuracies, but I think they look great.

~Z~

gottols · 06-11-2005, 05:24 PM

You open it from the front seem down(wards) and backwards......................

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Originally Posted by Beau222

I have recently rcvd the DL 1/250 737 and I have one question...HOW do you pop the nose gear down. I see a large opening that is towards the tail end of the plug and the front seam is much tighter towards the nose. I do not want to break anything so I don't want to push pull in either wrong direction. can anyone please tell me how to properly open the nose gear
Thanks
Beau

funbird · 06-12-2005, 05:37 PM

The UA DC-8F is the only GJ250 I have so far. It's a nice model. At least GJ gets the font, livery colors correct(more or less) whereas IF200 still has problems in that department.

Beau222 · 06-12-2005, 07:05 PM

I got it....thanks for the help..it is a little scary to try without any instructions Thanks Beau

AIRWEST N9345 · 06-14-2005, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by HenryTenby

You're right ... this is a new product line and it is still early days. The printing is excellent... and I hope GeminiJets will bring the the quality up in future releases.

The 1/400 DC8 GeminiJets model has the correct wing diehedral. From the photos of the 1/250 DC8 models the wings look a bit flat, but I do not have the model so I cannot speak from seeing the model.

Hi Henry! Welcome to one of the more interesting aviation forums. Hopefully I'll see you either at the international convention next month, if not then here in Miami sometime this year.
Don McComb

jblu320-200 · 06-21-2005, 10:46 PM

I am thinking about buying a CO 737....anything wrong with it?

SouthwestAirlines103 · 07-01-2005, 03:21 PM

I'm thinking bout gettin gthe Delta 738, primarily because im flying on it in the next few days. How is this model?

Greg

Carlos Perea · 07-01-2005, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jblu320-200

I am thinking about buying a CO 737....anything wrong with it?

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Originally Posted by SouthwestAirlines103

I'm thinking bout gettin gthe Delta 738, primarily because im flying on it in the next few days. How is this model?

Greg

Note how in the thread starter it says "I just received my GeminiJets 250 Delta and Continental 737s in the mail today", which would indicate that this is a problem with both of these models.

SouthwestAirlines103 · 07-01-2005, 04:48 PM

No I ment the overall quality. Like would sombody recomend getting it.

Greg

jblu320-200 · 07-01-2005, 06:54 PM

Any pictures?

HNL-Chris · 07-09-2005, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by jblu320-200

Any pictures?

I have all but the DL MD-80 and 738, but will have them shortly. They're great and if you don't have the AA 737, get it as it is bound to sell out.

06-09-2005, 11:03 PM	#1
HenryTenby Junior Collector Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7	Gemini 250 737s wings flat as a pancake + fuselage tapers Removed per request from author Last edited by n1786b; 07-11-2005 at 04:45 PM. Reason: Removed per request from author

06-09-2005, 11:09 PM	#2
HenryTenby Junior Collector Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7	rear stabs also crooked Removed per request from author Last edited by n1786b; 07-11-2005 at 04:42 PM. Reason: Removed per request from author

06-10-2005, 10:00 PM	#6
HenryTenby Junior Collector Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7	point taken... Removed per request from author Last edited by n1786b; 07-11-2005 at 04:46 PM. Reason: Removed per request from author

06-11-2005, 11:33 AM	#7
Flying Ace Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,150	As I recall, the first generation Aeroclassics were not anything to brag about either...but they are often prized among collectors today and diffcult to obtain. Point being no one knows for certain what these early attempts in this new line from Gemini will be worth down the road aways...same with any manufacturer. And overall reproduction quality and collectability do not necessarily run parallel or hand in hand. I don't think Robert Metchick, founder of Aero Mini ever envisioned his planes would command the large sums of money they do today. From what I do know about Gemini and since I have seen in their models since 2000 they appear very skilled in producing quality models at relatively affordable prices. Is Gemini the best model out there? No...they do not produce high end models nor do they cater to that market, that market being in the neighborhood in excess of $150 per model, which I also participate in. But they do produce very good models at affordable prices. I can sometimes identify with the frustration of the manufacturers with some of the nonsense heard from collectors, especially when development costs are not completely known or considered. Take for example color development. There was a discussion on the 400 scale forum not too long ago about color matching on different scale models. This is very true. One of the higher end manufacturers that I am just starting to branch into 1:100 scale, uses spectrophotometric techniques and computer graphics to account for aircraft size and shape so that colors are exactly mimetic to the actual aircraft. All of this is labor intensive and takes time and and cost is passed onto the consumer. This same manufacturer has some of the most advanced techniques for producing moulds ever. But to have such a precise model you are going to pay well over $200 for that and it is going to be rather large in size. So back to the Gemini250 line: what you are getting is a very well made model at an incredibly reasonable price. If innaccuracies do exist such as wing dihedrals, wing thickness, etc, these are so negligible that they don't attract form the overall appearance of the model. I know Gemini has a good customer care program that is maintained on there website, so if there is a QC issue with one of their models, you should contact them before openly posting your gripe on an open forum. They are a big company. As far as the G250 line, overall speaking, they are an extremely good value (overall quality for the price...you can't beat it) and they are a good size to build a range on. Of the moulds thus far, I personally think their DC-8's are the best...and I am having trouble deciding which would be next between their 738 amd MD-80 efforts. Of what I have been able to find so far, these models are apparently being produced in limited production, but I haven't been able to find out just how limited. I do wish Gemini would provide some more details on production quantities. Last edited by Flying Ace; 06-11-2005 at 12:12 PM.

06-11-2005, 04:51 PM	#11
aviatorisu Cunning Linguist Join Date: Sep 2003 Age: 31 Posts: 1,268	Beau - I use a staple to get the gear down...it is sometimes hard the first couple of times, but you get the hang of it. Gottols & Flying Ace - To my knowledge, the numbers are lower than what the 1:400 models are. I know for a fact that the Delta N/C MD-88 is the second most limited so far, only behind the Delta DC-8-61 of which only like 250-500 were produced I believe. I can also tell you that the United DC-8-61 just sold out of our warehouse, and it was only released about 9 months ago. Exact numbers I do not have, but I hope that helps. Everyone else - I love these models. I have given up collecting 1:400 since I've got the whole line and have seen what is coming. Very exciting stuff for a larger scale! Like any model, I'm sure they do have their inaccuracies, but I think they look great. ~Z~ __________________ Aeroclassics = GreenBox = Pan Am Models = Andrew Klein

06-10-2005, 12:37 AM	#3
TWALOVER space cadet Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Berkeley, CA Posts: 720	The GJ 250 line have many flaws. I refuse to collect them.

06-11-2005, 02:29 PM	#9
gottols Master Collector Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Southwest of the Norwegian capitol Age: 50 Posts: 704	If I recall correct, someone mentioned a limited run of 750 earlier this year. Or maybe Zack can verify/supply the correct figure.........................

06-11-2005, 04:22 PM	#10
Beau222 Senior Collector Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Crestview, Florida U.S.A. Age: 42 Posts: 150	I have recently rcvd the DL 1/250 737 and I have one question...HOW do you pop the nose gear down. I see a large opening that is towards the tail end of the plug and the front seam is much tighter towards the nose. I do not want to break anything so I don't want to push pull in either wrong direction. can anyone please tell me how to properly open the nose gear Thanks Beau

06-12-2005, 05:37 PM	#13
funbird Master Collector Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: north florida Age: 41 Posts: 525	The UA DC-8F is the only GJ250 I have so far. It's a nice model. At least GJ gets the font, livery colors correct(more or less) whereas IF200 still has problems in that department.

06-12-2005, 07:05 PM	#14
Beau222 Senior Collector Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Crestview, Florida U.S.A. Age: 42 Posts: 150	I got it....thanks for the help..it is a little scary to try without any instructions Thanks Beau

06-21-2005, 10:46 PM	#16
jblu320-200 jetBlue Captain Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Jersey Age: 17 Posts: 240	I am thinking about buying a CO 737....anything wrong with it?

07-01-2005, 03:21 PM	#17
SouthwestAirlines103 Git-R-Done Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: HELL Age: 18 Posts: 845	I'm thinking bout gettin gthe Delta 738, primarily because im flying on it in the next few days. How is this model? Greg __________________ Greg Diecast Aircraft: SouthwestAirlines103 Wings900: want a airport 400scalehanger: SouthwestAirlines103 Airline Buzz: usairways103

07-01-2005, 04:48 PM	#19
SouthwestAirlines103 Git-R-Done Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: HELL Age: 18 Posts: 845	No I ment the overall quality. Like would sombody recomend getting it. Greg __________________ Greg Diecast Aircraft: SouthwestAirlines103 Wings900: want a airport 400scalehanger: SouthwestAirlines103 Airline Buzz: usairways103

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