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Old 05-11-2011, 09:08 AM   #51
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I would quite like the idea of Herpa doing the Comets (like their beautiful Viscounts) but then they were never operated by Lufthansa so I guess there's little chance of that, even though I think it would be a good seller in series 4-4B-4C form with all those different markings. It remains then for Aviation 200, First Choice or JC Wings to do the decent thing as they seem to be willing to tackle the more esoteric British subjects. The only problem I can foresee with the Mk 1 (apart from the limited schemes) is that it would really be a tail-sitter (still Dinky managed it.....); the Mk 4 would not have too much of a problem but would probably still need a plastic tail. Dream on.....
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I would quite like the idea of Herpa doing the Comets (like their beautiful Viscounts) but then they were never operated by Lufthansa so I guess there's little chance of that, even though I think it would be a good seller in series 4-4B-4C form with all those different markings. It remains then for Aviation 200, First Choice or JC Wings to do the decent thing as they seem to be willing to tackle the more esoteric British subjects. The only problem I can foresee with the Mk 1 (apart from the limited schemes) is that it would really be a tail-sitter (still Dinky managed it.....); the Mk 4 would not have too much of a problem but would probably still need a plastic tail. Dream on.....
In defense of Herpa, they have done 8 Viscounts to date in 1:200 and only 2 were German liveries, so I'm not sure if it would be a nationalistic livery thing that would prevent them from taking on the Comet 1 -- simply the lack of around 10-12 liveries in general. The Comet 1 only was sold to 6 (CPA, AF, BOAC, RCAF, UAT, and the RAF). Still, that would make a rather impressive and collectable entry, IMPO. Then on to the 4's, of which the sale of those could partially offset the tooling of the Comet 1's. I'm sure the bean counters could make that work. Yes, Herpa's polished finishes on their Viscounts would look SUPERB on a number of those early Comets. I simply adore the AF Viscount I have.

Agreed, Aviation 200, First Choice or JC Wings would be viable alternatives as well. (I never thought of those). Expect silver paint instead of polished finishes though. As far as Mk 1's being tail-sitters are concerned, I really don't see that as an issue in either the 1 or 4.

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Old 05-14-2011, 08:13 AM   #53
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Hello
looking for an AF Comet 1 1/200 metal ? Just have a look on the folowing link
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This is not really the place where we can get the models we use to buy from ARD or other well known retailers.

For the time being, in the 1/200 scale, there is no Comet on the market.

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I bought a metal one in uat colours three years ago for eur 200
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Excuse me the metal UAT comet i bought was at 1/100th scale not at 1/200
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Thank you all for your posts and pics

At this point, I managed to get my hands on the Corgi collection of Comets, decision I took for 3 personal reasons :

1) Corgi Comets have : stands, retractable landing gears(which the Skylines don't) and a unique retro value
2) The BOAC is a limited item and I was very proud to win it at an auction
3) Although they are not 1:200 to blend in with the rest of my collection, they are bigger and to be honest I truly had an unexpected nice feeling when I got my hands on the first Corgi Dan Air Comet, which did not happened with the previous Dan Air Comet from CAM(The one in my post) - I don't have a logical explanation for this, just felt that way..

So at the time I'm writing, I have received a Dan Air London Comet, and two more - one from BEA and the other from....B O A C - my estate of the art jewel model. I am very happy and pleased with them, and to be honest I can't decide if to purchase the Skyline ones...

What do you guys thing? I really would like to know your opinions - be as straight as you can - what would you choose to do, now that it seems the Skyline Comets will be are available again
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Old 05-23-2011, 03:04 AM   #58
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I'm afraid I'm not a great fan of the Corgi Comets, but I collect 1/200 in any case. I need to wait to see what the Skyline Comets look like but my guess is that they are retreads of the old white metal models (if not, someone please correct me) and are rather more expensive than we are used to for mainline production. My intention is to wait for someone like AK200 or FirstChoice to come up with some state-of-the-art models at the right price. Anyone who decides to come up with an Argosy must see the greater commercial potential of a Comet series, surely.
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The Corgi 144 airliner stuff leaves me cold. For the size if it, it lacks detail. The comet seem especially "plain". I don't think the 200 scale comet will meet our requirements on overall detail and feel either, especially for the price. I'm not saying that they are overpriced for a handbuilt low volume model. Just that they need a bit more attention to detail and final finish at that price. I would have liked a red square Trident but could not justify the price ticket. Needs to be £60 for me. That probably won't happen due to less interest from the global market for a Trident compared to say a 727.

Interesting point you make about Argosy v Comet though. Haven't heard much going on with AK200 lately.
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I guess we can project the past to the future and say that the output of 727s in various different colour schemes will continue until the end of time but I detect a kind of feeding frenzy amongst the manufacturers who are jumping over each other to tap into both existing markets and new ones, and retro is where it is happening. Who would have thought that we'd see DC6s, Electras and Viscounts from two or more different companies? For that reason, I think that some wise soul will do the Trident and Comet. but then, I probably live in a fantasy world!

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I guess we can project the past to the future and say that the output of 727s in various different colour schemes will continue until the end of time but I detect a kind of feeding frenzy amongst the manufacturers who are jumping over each other to tap into both existing markets and new ones, and retro is where it is happening. Who would have thought that we'd see DC6s, Electras and Viscounts from two or more different companies? For that reason, I think that some wise soul will do the Trident and Comet. but then, I probably live in a fantasy world!
When I look around the planet and see what's going on, the fantasy world is definitely the right place to live ! I bought a one way ticket
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[I]for a comet at 1/200 see also this web site , they used to make some
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[I]for a comet at 1/200 see also this web site , they used to make some
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Looks like the website is having a bit of trouble then.......
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FYI: I have the DH Models BOAC and BEA up on Ebay. Links in the Trade forum.
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Yes it is difficult to get on their web site today .
they used to sell Comet 4 so called " skylinemodems " or even " Sheraton models " 1/200 th scale
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CAM was a well known retailer in UK but they stopped business.
I used to go there some fifteen years ago but it is all finished.
If you go to London, pay a visit to ARD.

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Interesting point you make about Argosy v Comet though. Haven't heard much going on with AK200 lately.[/QUOTE]


well, according to malcolm at airspotters, ak200 has given up!!! not enough sales or turnover to make it worthwhile. probably why the european 747s wre re-branded jc!
fyi i love my corgi models. a bit unfair to compare models made 20-30 years ago with todays standards.
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fyi i love my corgi models. a bit unfair to compare models made 20-30 years ago with todays standards.[/QUOTE]

I wondered why those 747's were not AK.

Those Corgi Comets can't be 30 years old surely ? Maybe knocking on for 20. Western's 200 range is barely 16 years old. Didn't they both appear around the same time ?

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just checked database, apparently around 10 years old! thought they were older than that!
well after seeing the state of those euro 747s that airspotters received, no wonder he gave up! looks like they forgot to add the polish/laquer finish. they were dull, dreary, dusty and dreadful! i would not pay more than a tenner for them!
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just checked database, apparently around 10 years old! thought they were older than that!
well after seeing the state of those euro 747s that airspotters received, no wonder he gave up! looks like they forgot to add the polish/laquer finish. they were dull, dreary, dusty and dreadful! i would not pay more than a tenner for them!
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CAM was a well known retailer in UK but they stopped business.
I used to go there some fifteen years ago but it is all finished.
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I guess we can project the past to the future and say that the output of 727s in various different colour schemes will continue until the end of time but I detect a kind of feeding frenzy amongst the manufacturers who are jumping over each other to tap into both existing markets and new ones, and retro is where it is happening. Who would have thought that we'd see DC6s, Electras and Viscounts from two or more different companies? For that reason, I think that some wise soul will do the Trident and Comet. but then, I probably live in a fantasy world!
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That said, There is good money to be made pumping out hundreds of different variants of 727's in hundreds of different liveries. Anyone waiting for a Comet 1 is truly living in a fantasy world (Hi! Hello there.), but hope springs eternal. The Comet 4 is more realistic. As much as I cherish the few Corgi propliners I've collected over the last 10-11 years, their Comet 4 is one I've avoided like the plague. Yes . . . the BOAC one does look tempting, even more so the polished one, but the engine inlets are so crude it is a shame. Why did Corgi squander this opportunity to create something truly magnificent. As mentioned by others, the lack of detail overall is rather sad, really. DC6s, Electras and Viscounts don't surprise me, but the Trident I can only see happening by a specialist UK maker.
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As a viewer regarding general collector's gaps, I believe the main problem is that it's very hard to find all the models you like from a single brand and at a single desired scale - that is why, in my opinion, you have to blend in what you want with what you can find at the desired scale.

For example, I declined nostalgia retro models at 1:200 in favor of the 1:144 scale that Corgi made since I couldn't find my main favorite aircraft model (DH Comet 106) in my desired livery's (Dan Air but with the non-black nose & United Arab Airlines) - At this point I am pleased with the fact that my collection is made out of Corgi gold-era airliners (Comet, Stratocruiser, VC-10, Viscout, Britania, etc) models & Hogan specials(Caravelle, Concorde etc), Rise Soon - Gemini - Del Prado and other manufacturers for the rest of usual models(A3xx, B7xx, DC-X, etc) - and what I couldn't find at 1:144 or 1:200 - I bought at 1:500 - example : DH/HS 121 Trident - BEA & BA Landor

However, I do have some missing even at these scales like the Avro Tudor or Junkers G-38 which seem to be impossible to find in diecast metal
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