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Guys,
I need some help. Which one of the two A380 models are better? Sky Marks or Hogan's. Both models are around $40.00 value and they are both "snap together" models but which one has more details to it and is more accurate? Can anyone post some comparison photo's? Thanks.
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hogan hands down.
skymark/risesoon drawbacks include -wings are over gulled...wingtips are on the level of the top of the fuselage! -cockpit windows printed way too big and doesnt do justice to the size of the aircraft -engines are inaccurate, not quite sure how to explain it -risesoon rubber wheels are always lame -comes with spinning fan blades though. wing details and construction are made alot finer on hogan models. im out of town right now away from my models otherwise i would love to do comparison shots for you. but maybe this will satisfy some of your questions for the time being... heres my risesoon emirates a380. forget about my extra addons of antenna, engine stabs and painted engine parts. and no that outboard engine isnt snapped on wrong, it is indeed overtilted upwards heres my hogan side shot, yes there is that dramatic of a difference in wing gulling between hogan and risesoon even if the the pictures were taken at slightly different angles. note cockpit windows and engines (especially how far exhaust cones protrude out).
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Where did you get those extra addons of antenna? I don't like Herpa & Risesoon's 1/200 coz they look "bald" without the antennas. |
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i made them myself. but i bet a user on this forum named Staralliance has kits made for it already. i havent seen him around lately but if you look him up and his threads, they are utmost amazing.
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btw, aradrom, if no one posts dedicated comparison shots by sunday, ill go ahead and do them for you. im just not around my planes this weekend to take pics of them
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Thank you kaitanium...
I was offered a Sky Marks A380 model on a trade deal. Should I go for it? ![]() I noticed on other photos that Hogan's A380 has an incomplete printed door right above the wings area. Is that a manufacturer mistake? ![]() I look forward in seeing your comparison photo's. Thanks again.
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I don't have any A380 models in my collection but judging by kaitanium's pics, I'd go with Hogan for sure.
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as for the trade it depends on whats on the line here =P
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Perhaps it could be a one-off production error or the quality of the pics.
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It is common that they (companies)make mistakes in their pre release photoshoots so mabye thats why they left that door decal out? |
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ooo i see what he was talking about now...
![]() yes the production model is left out too. im 95% although i have to take a 2nd look at my model again. i got my model last august. maybe it was still a first production model? maybe they changed it up recently? no idea. i still go for hogan for their attention to detail and fine-ness of construction. hogans wings are so well made that i was considering ordering a pair of replacement wings from herpa and mating them to my emirates one
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Door base is also missing on the Hogan Air France model.
Cheers!
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KAITANIUM...
I accepted the trade offer and I got the SkyMark A380 House color version. . It's imressive looking and very solid...Registration: F-WWOW.Since you've done a great job upgrading your A380 (Emirates) ...please give me some direction on how to upgrade mine as well. . I would like to keep this one...until someone will release it in diecast...AIRLINERS.NET - Accept No Imitations. has great selection of reference photo's of this magnificent bird... By the way...the SkyMark version has the wing escape door fully printed on both sides. That's a kick in the n*ts for Hogan...Please let me know how to upgrade...Thanks.
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you like the the skymarks? oh well, to each his own. hogan is downright built better regardless of the unprinted door.
its actually quite alot of work to "upgrade" your model and i still cant confirm if the super glue i used will yellow over time or not. but if you want to take your chances and waste some time... 1. go out and get some .30 styrene, you need to cut small antenna and engine stabs out of it with an utility knife, it will take many tries to get a decent shape. once thats done, youll need to use tweezers to dip just a tad bit of super glue and hold it on the model till it dries. this is by far the hardest part to do as super glue doesnt set as quick as you want it to so a steady hand is needed otherwise the antenna will slip and youll smear glue on your model that you cant get off. dont dip too much glue otherwise it forms a small puddle and dries like that at the base of the antenna. if it smears or puddles and IF super glue yellows, youll have a nasty model. so use just enough to stick. modeling cement WILL NOT work as the skymarks model has a clear coat over the plastic. 2. youll need to yank out all landing gears and paint the struts a matte aluminum color 3. i bought regular metal Hogan a380 replacement gears to replace the stupid risesoon junk (not shown in pic) 4. paint the wing stab ends a red color if you want too 5. engines need to be taken apart and front painted a silver color, exhaust cones need to be their respective gray colors too. your a380 house colors might have white fan blades so youll need to paint those black. and if you want to go all out like i did, do the swirly things inside the engines too i took these from my old threads at http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...it-better.html http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...rbus-a380.html ill take comparison shots of my hogan vs this when i get back nevertheless. what did you trade by the way? if you dont mind me asking.
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I have some Hogan and Skymarks models ı thınk hogan ıs better than skymarks
many greetıngs from istanbul ilgaz |
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Looks like the engine fan blades are black already.
I will try to upgrade this as best as possible. Does Hogan's A380 wings fit Sky Marks? Aviation World (Toronto) has an Hogan A380-800F Cargo version and I might use its wings....nah...maybe not. I traded a 1:72 scale P-51B WWII Gemini Aces fighter for this one. I had too many of the same variant.
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they dont fit. ill need to mod them if i do it.
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Does the A380-800F Cargo version really exist?
I thought that this was a variant that FedEx ordered and they backed off their commitment due to delivery delays. Does anybody have info on this?
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I love remodifying my hogans and herpas. I'll show you how my remodifications went some other time. I'm just so sick of seeing my models with so little detail so I tried to make it look as realistic as possible with weathering and an addition of 70+ features.
I'm glad Kaitanium felt the same way as I did these couple of days with the good upgrade. |
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id love to see shots of your weathering on those models.
im more concerned about resale value of my models so i try to keep modifications to a minimum =P
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I got an email from the airport saying that they would like to see this exciting project and display the model in the lounge. I intend to display it in my model shop dealer too. I have fixed an illustration display card with matching photos of the real plane and the model plane, how the details were closely match. Yeah I can see where you are getting at, but there are a small number of collectors out there who wants a model with real life detail (as close as possible anyways). Before this whole upgrade cascade happened I was considering on selling my model until I thought to myself, the only way I would keep it is af it looked 10 times better and more realsitic. So that was my challange = project ~ ergo ![]() I had worked long hours on this project, looking at countless photos of the engines, fuel injection, tail exhaust, angel of the attack sensor, emergency lights, emergency cut in decals + as much research I could have possibly dug up. |
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must have been pretty hard to make all those tiny things in 200 trinket scale =P
would love to do it for my hasegawa kits from the getgo as hiding mistakes is easier. cant really sand down and resurface a hogan!
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I really like the chop marks! If you have decals, let me know where you got them!
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i just can't believe that someone would pick Skymarks A380 over Hogan A380. Just can't get over it. hehe.
well, i am just glad u like it! good luck with mods!
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Kaitanium,
Check ou this shot of the B777 ER. Original can be viewed at: Airliners.net Photos: EVA Air Boeing 777-35E/ER
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Nice find aradrom!
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yea i saw that shot. absolutely wonderful.
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After carefully reading all the instructions provided by kaitanium on "how to" upgrade the A380...I decided not to.
![]() I will sell or trade this model. ![]() My wish list: 1:200 Star Jets B575 British Airways "Union Flag" 1:200 Hogan A318 Air France 1:200 Herpa B757 Icelandair 1:200 Kamag tow trucks (3) 1:200 Catering vehicles (3) 1:200 Stairs set (3)
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hah what the...the hogan is going to be pretty much just as plain since its got no antenna or stabs either.
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I don't get it, how can you dislike the model in such a short period of time?
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as promised for aradrom
this one should hit home for all those wondering and serve as a thread for those who will wonder in the future! gosh i love holding these jets in my hands, the biggest in my collection, so grand. enjoy guys ill let you know if i added something on so as to not fool you that it came on the stock model. overview ![]() overgulled wings on the skymarks/risesoon....what is this, the inflight version?? i added those engine stabs and painted those swirlies not stock! i do think that hogan engine nacelles on almost all their models are rather thick though...they could tone that down a bit and make the engine look more massive like the real deal. ![]() oversized cockpit windows on the skymarks/risesoon (though i think the hogans may be on the small side) gears and wheels are pretty nasty too even though rubber, ill take the hogan metal anyday. gear struts on the skymarks/risesoon are painted so dont let that fool you, its not stock! and comon risesoon, "Airbus 380"????? earth to risesoon its a380! and WWDD really said "Airbus A380-800" to rub it in riessoon's face even more. ![]() ![]() engines. hogan wins in my book for attention to detail, accuracy, and craftsmanship. engine exhaust cones and silver front part of the engine are painted on the skymarks/risesoon, again not stock! ![]() you can see the misprinted door on the hogan here. engine and wing detail comparisons. all red paint on the stabs are painted on by me! ![]() horizontal stabilizer comparison. hogan has that attention to detail on the roundness of the edges ![]() no printed apu on the skymarks/risesoon ![]() heres hogans hallmark. check out the thinness. skymarks/risesoon used a sticker there for that emirates logo. lame. i see on your skymarks version they didnt even paint both sides of the wing fence blue, only one side. ![]() from the top ![]() side shot. nasty overgulled wings on the skymarks/risesoon are so apparent here. skymarks/risesoons version really looks like a big fat ugly whale! the a380 is big but they make everything bigger than it really needs to be. also the risesoon seems a bit too back tilted...i may shave the front gear down a bit or add some boosters to the back gears. ![]() so you may be wondering, after that risesoon bash, why i bought the model in the first place? well i love the emirates livery and i love the germany 2006 design so thats why i got it. if risesoon made a b773ER with the germany 06 logo i would have gotten that instead of this guy. which means if in the future they do, my emirates a380 and current 773 non ER will be for sale! =)
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Thanks for the shots kai, my VS A380 really looks nasty next to my hogan A380. Although, I still like that emirates! C'mon hogan, make some EKs!
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Thanks Kaitanium,
These are gret comparison photos. ![]() Hogan version of the A380 rules... I will look for one at the AW store. ![]() Thanks again.
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Kaitanium you nerd! Attention to-detail nerd! Its good to know someone who pays as much attention to these things as me. Good job, lovely comparison. =P
A for comparison grade.
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it's quite interesting to see that everyone's got their own taste.
For example, i jumped on B747-8IC from Hogan even though i knew there's no registration number, while others will hold out for future releases with registration. (B747-8IC, A380 and B787). I am trying very hard to hold off on A380 and B787 for models with registration. This is so tough! temptations! haha. i can't wait til i get my hand on A380 and B787 models in near future! As always, thanks for the pix and comparison Kaitanium! u r the best man!
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Thanks for the comparison pics, kaitanium! Will definitely recall this thread when it's my time to buy the A380.
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nope not anymore. ive tried to cut "uncessaries" out of my wishlist due to space. =P sad i know.
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Good! I was gonna to buy one yesterday but realised that I'd better check with you first.
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u know what's funny. i had u in the original post, but i took it out just in case, hehe. ooooooooh! i like those Air France hogans! I thought of A318 or B737. also B773. i like OUT HERE IN EMERGENCY above the windows on that model, haha.
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My signature is so sneaky towards D-AIHC's. hee...
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Jason, there are way too many AF models released by HG. Since I am not a huge fan of AF, I just collect those that I really like. An A318 or a B735 would be a good choice, so are A333, A343 & B773/ER.
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