Herpa CV-440s

DavidMich · 10-14-2006, 03:57 AM

Any word on the Delta Convair 440 getting released?

cathay747 · 10-15-2006, 10:43 AM

Christ I hope they do a North Central, circa 1966 livery!!!!!

planemark · 10-15-2006, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidMich

Any word on the Delta Convair 440 getting released?

The retailer I use has told me that it looks like December. I hope so.

Agent X20 · 10-16-2006, 04:24 AM

Jolly good, this has been on pre-order for yonks...

DavidMich · 11-20-2006, 11:28 PM

"bump"

Any news on the 440?

Rudi · 11-22-2006, 05:18 PM

What's the (visible) difference between a Convair 340 and 440?

n6101 · 11-22-2006, 08:31 PM

The easiest way to tell a 340 from a 440 is by identifying the exhaust outlets. The 340 used two round pipes protruding from the rear of the engine. This was a carry over from the 240 model. The 440 introduced retangular exhaust outlets-as portrayed on the Herpa models. In addition to buying new 440s, airlines such as Lufthansa, Braniff, Delta and others converted their 340s to 440 standards and usually added radar which enlarged the nose. Because of these conversions, it is difficult to tell whether a particular aircraft is a 340 or 440 without seeing the exhaust outlet. The book, "The Convair Twins", by Gary L. Killion is a excellent source for additional infromation. I sure hope we see lots of Convair Twin models!

Rudi · 11-23-2006, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by n6101

The 440 introduced retangular exhaust outlets-as portrayed on the Herpa models.

Does this mean herpa's 340 (D-ACEF) actually shows a 440. The exhausts of the model are rectangular, too!

Herpa writes Lufthansa bought it as a 340. Later they transformed it into a 440. I'm confused!

n6101 · 11-24-2006, 06:19 AM

I forgot to mention one other way to identify 440s from 340s: the engine cowling or opening behind the props is smaller on the 440 than on the 340. If one compares the 340 to the 440, one will notice the difference in the size of the engine opening/cowling(?)
One can compare the Convair 340 upgrade to when airlines upgraded their early turbo-jet Boeing 707s to turbo-fan Boeing 707s. Now SAS and Finnair flew the 440 without the radar nose so it is possible Lufthansa did also but I have my doubts. I say this because I have seen many photos of Lufthansa Convairs but I don't remember ever seeing the color scheme on the Herpa model on the CV-440. Because of this, I don't feel the model is accurate but I still enjoy it because I love Convairs.
I understand on Lufthansa's website they are selling the Convair 440 in the 1960s colors(yellow/blue) and it looks like it has the radar nose. I believe this is accurate. Unfortunately for me the model can only be purchased in Europe.

10-14-2006, 03:57 AM	#1
DavidMich Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Back in MCO! Posts: 3,626	Herpa CV-440s Any word on the Delta Convair 440 getting released? __________________ "So if man is 5, and the devil is 6, then that must make me 7,,,this honky's gone to heaven!"

10-16-2006, 04:24 AM	#4
Agent X20 Insane Collector Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: UK Posts: 1,248	Jolly good, this has been on pre-order for yonks... __________________ Agent X20

11-20-2006, 11:28 PM	#5
DavidMich Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Back in MCO! Posts: 3,626	"bump" Any news on the 440? __________________ "So if man is 5, and the devil is 6, then that must make me 7,,,this honky's gone to heaven!"

11-22-2006, 05:18 PM	#6
Rudi Master Collector Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Lübbecke/NRW/Germany Age: 49 Posts: 615	What's the (visible) difference between a Convair 340 and 440? __________________ A special livery can't be too colorful!

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10-15-2006, 10:43 AM	#2
cathay747 Try a Little VC-10derness Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 280	Christ I hope they do a North Central, circa 1966 livery!!!!!

11-22-2006, 08:31 PM	#7
n6101 Junior Collector Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Queens, NY Age: 52 Posts: 38	The easiest way to tell a 340 from a 440 is by identifying the exhaust outlets. The 340 used two round pipes protruding from the rear of the engine. This was a carry over from the 240 model. The 440 introduced retangular exhaust outlets-as portrayed on the Herpa models. In addition to buying new 440s, airlines such as Lufthansa, Braniff, Delta and others converted their 340s to 440 standards and usually added radar which enlarged the nose. Because of these conversions, it is difficult to tell whether a particular aircraft is a 340 or 440 without seeing the exhaust outlet. The book, "The Convair Twins", by Gary L. Killion is a excellent source for additional infromation. I sure hope we see lots of Convair Twin models!

11-24-2006, 06:19 AM	#9
n6101 Junior Collector Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Queens, NY Age: 52 Posts: 38	I forgot to mention one other way to identify 440s from 340s: the engine cowling or opening behind the props is smaller on the 440 than on the 340. If one compares the 340 to the 440, one will notice the difference in the size of the engine opening/cowling(?) One can compare the Convair 340 upgrade to when airlines upgraded their early turbo-jet Boeing 707s to turbo-fan Boeing 707s. Now SAS and Finnair flew the 440 without the radar nose so it is possible Lufthansa did also but I have my doubts. I say this because I have seen many photos of Lufthansa Convairs but I don't remember ever seeing the color scheme on the Herpa model on the CV-440. Because of this, I don't feel the model is accurate but I still enjoy it because I love Convairs. I understand on Lufthansa's website they are selling the Convair 440 in the 1960s colors(yellow/blue) and it looks like it has the radar nose. I believe this is accurate. Unfortunately for me the model can only be purchased in Europe.