New Concorde with BA tail

superbou · 08-02-2005, 07:14 AM

I was wandering on the site of Daron Worlwide Trading this morning when I saw that in the Hogan models listing we can see the list of the seven BA Concorde,
here is the link :Hogan BA Concorde
According to them it will be released in september, i can't wait seeing the first pics. So all of Concorde fans start to save money for it.
A very very good news

.

Cheers, Arno

B-huj · 08-02-2005, 07:30 AM

Sounds good, but I didn't find models in the hyperlink

Dr. Edmund H. Carus · 08-02-2005, 07:50 AM

The wait is worth it!

Cheers!

superbou · 08-02-2005, 08:47 AM

Sorry but actually the link doesn't work.
So you can try this one and after browse the model list,
http://www.daronwwt.com/hogan.html :
Daron Hogan

Have a nice day,

Arno

Nobbe · 08-02-2005, 08:48 AM

Here´s the first pic (from above mentioned site):

Sascha · 08-02-2005, 12:35 PM

looks nice, but who needs seven (!) different regs of the same color scheme after five air france new colors and 2 air france old colors... i guess we will see every single concorde in every color scheme and every registration ever flown. so we can expect a pesi and a singapore in the near future too.

brgds sascha

Dr. Edmund H. Carus · 08-02-2005, 03:17 PM

Yes, all BA models are to appear in all liveries!

Cheers!

B-huj · 08-04-2005, 06:37 AM

Sacha has a point, soon, the entire concorde fleet in real-life will be produced in diecast form, thanks in part to the commercial failure of the type, there are not many to be represented!

I don't complain, I will get at least this livery in any registration, but not interested in having a 1/200 concorde fleet...especially at 80Euros a piece!
I don't think anyone is into collecting every concorde ever flown!

My only hope is that no stupid fantasies will be produced before the real-life planes are all represented. Actually, I would not want to see any fantasy liveries at all in this scale.

Dr. Edmund H. Carus · 08-04-2005, 12:13 PM

I think that all the museums containing the BA aircraft will be interested in having models of "their" a/c - and these museums have substantial numbers of supporters. I personally instigated the preservation of G-BOAC at Manchester Airport where she is on display and awaiting a permanent hanger.

A BA pre-production prototype needs to be added since externally it is identical to the production a/c - G-BBDG currently under restoration at Brooklands Surrey. In France, there is F-WTSA which also needs modelling.

In the US, G-BOAG is preserved at Seattle and G-BOAD is at the Intrepid site in NYC. G-BOAE is in Barbados, the rest in the UK.

Cheers!

Dr. Edmund H. Carus · 08-04-2005, 12:14 PM

For the complete Concorde story and facts see:

www.concordesst.com

Cheers!

Steve · 08-04-2005, 12:56 PM

Looks good!

Steve

TWALOVER · 08-04-2005, 01:57 PM

Where will these be available for sale? And when?

B-huj · 08-05-2005, 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TWALOVER

Where will these be available for sale? And when?

Actually, these are two very important questions...
is it another Socatec? or will it be cheaper than Air France's version?

superbou · 08-05-2005, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Actually, these are two very important questions...
is it another Socatec? or will it be cheaper than Air France's version?

In my opinion by seeing the pic above it looks like it's the same mould as the Socatec AF version.
For the price don't expect the BA model to be cheaper of the AF one.

Arno

n1786b · 08-05-2005, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B-huj

Actually, these are two very important questions...
is it another Socatec? or will it be cheaper than Air France's version?

Yes it is a Socatec. It is the same mould as the AF Concordes.

The price will most likely be the same too.

- N1786B

ChristiaanJ · 08-06-2005, 05:48 PM

"A BA pre-production prototype needs to be added since externally it is identical to the production a/c - G-BBDG currently under restoration at Brooklands Surrey. In France, there is F-WTSA which also needs modelling."

Some confusion here..... !
"A BA pre-production prototype... "
There were two prototypes and two pre-production aircraft ... BA never owned any of either.
G-BBDG was the first British production aircraft, used for certification. It never went into service, although BA bought it in the end to be used for spares.

The first pre-production aircraft was 01 / G-AXDN (now at Duxford) which has the new visor, but still the "old" short tail and the "old" nozzles and thrust reversers.

F-WTSA / 02 was the second pre-production aircraft, and the first with the long tail and the new nozzles, so externally identical to the later production aircraft.

Then there's F-WTSB, the first French production aircraft. Same story as G-BBDG, used for certification, never went into service.

So in all there are 17 aircraft that could be modelled with the existing mould, plus then of course the livery variants.

Dr. Edmund H. Carus · 08-06-2005, 07:08 PM

Thanks. You are totally correct!

Cheers!

ChristiaanJ · 08-06-2005, 07:19 PM

Worked on our Gracious Lady for years, so always pleased if I can share a spot of useful info!

08-02-2005, 07:14 AM	#1
superbou Celtic collector Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Normandie - France Age: 32 Posts: 473	New Concorde with BA tail I was wandering on the site of Daron Worlwide Trading this morning when I saw that in the Hogan models listing we can see the list of the seven BA Concorde, here is the link :Hogan BA Concorde According to them it will be released in september, i can't wait seeing the first pics. So all of Concorde fans start to save money for it. A very very good news . Cheers, Arno

08-02-2005, 07:30 AM	#2
B-huj Insane Collector Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,639	Sounds good, but I didn't find models in the hyperlink Last edited by B-huj; 08-02-2005 at 07:32 AM.

08-02-2005, 07:50 AM	#3
Dr. Edmund H. Carus Master Collector Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: UK/Germany Posts: 801	The wait is worth it! Cheers! __________________ Edmund (now UK/IOM residency)

08-02-2005, 03:17 PM	#7
Dr. Edmund H. Carus Master Collector Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: UK/Germany Posts: 801	Yes, all BA models are to appear in all liveries! Cheers! __________________ Edmund (now UK/IOM residency)

08-04-2005, 06:37 AM	#8
B-huj Insane Collector Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,639	Sacha has a point, soon, the entire concorde fleet in real-life will be produced in diecast form, thanks in part to the commercial failure of the type, there are not many to be represented! I don't complain, I will get at least this livery in any registration, but not interested in having a 1/200 concorde fleet...especially at 80Euros a piece! I don't think anyone is into collecting every concorde ever flown! My only hope is that no stupid fantasies will be produced before the real-life planes are all represented. Actually, I would not want to see any fantasy liveries at all in this scale. Last edited by B-huj; 08-04-2005 at 06:38 AM.

08-02-2005, 08:47 AM	#4
superbou Celtic collector Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Normandie - France Age: 32 Posts: 473	Sorry but actually the link doesn't work. So you can try this one and after browse the model list, http://www.daronwwt.com/hogan.html : Daron Hogan Have a nice day, Arno

08-02-2005, 08:48 AM	#5
Nobbe Insane Collector Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,050	Here´s the first pic (from above mentioned site):

08-02-2005, 12:35 PM	#6
Sascha DAC Team Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 665	looks nice, but who needs seven (!) different regs of the same color scheme after five air france new colors and 2 air france old colors... i guess we will see every single concorde in every color scheme and every registration ever flown. so we can expect a pesi and a singapore in the near future too. brgds sascha

08-04-2005, 12:13 PM	#9
Dr. Edmund H. Carus Master Collector Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: UK/Germany Posts: 801	I think that all the museums containing the BA aircraft will be interested in having models of "their" a/c - and these museums have substantial numbers of supporters. I personally instigated the preservation of G-BOAC at Manchester Airport where she is on display and awaiting a permanent hanger. A BA pre-production prototype needs to be added since externally it is identical to the production a/c - G-BBDG currently under restoration at Brooklands Surrey. In France, there is F-WTSA which also needs modelling. In the US, G-BOAG is preserved at Seattle and G-BOAD is at the Intrepid site in NYC. G-BOAE is in Barbados, the rest in the UK. Cheers! __________________ Edmund (now UK/IOM residency)

08-04-2005, 12:14 PM	#10
Dr. Edmund H. Carus Master Collector Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: UK/Germany Posts: 801	For the complete Concorde story and facts see: www.concordesst.com Cheers! __________________ Edmund (now UK/IOM residency)

08-04-2005, 12:56 PM	#11
Steve Master Collector Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 838	Looks good! Steve __________________ Aerosite ...check it out!

08-04-2005, 01:57 PM	#12
TWALOVER space cadet Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Berkeley, CA Posts: 722	Where will these be available for sale? And when?

08-06-2005, 05:48 PM	#16
ChristiaanJ Junior Collector Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: France Posts: 2	Confusion? "A BA pre-production prototype needs to be added since externally it is identical to the production a/c - G-BBDG currently under restoration at Brooklands Surrey. In France, there is F-WTSA which also needs modelling." Some confusion here..... ! "A BA pre-production prototype... " There were two prototypes and two pre-production aircraft ... BA never owned any of either. G-BBDG was the first British production aircraft, used for certification. It never went into service, although BA bought it in the end to be used for spares. The first pre-production aircraft was 01 / G-AXDN (now at Duxford) which has the new visor, but still the "old" short tail and the "old" nozzles and thrust reversers. F-WTSA / 02 was the second pre-production aircraft, and the first with the long tail and the new nozzles, so externally identical to the later production aircraft. Then there's F-WTSB, the first French production aircraft. Same story as G-BBDG, used for certification, never went into service. So in all there are 17 aircraft that could be modelled with the existing mould, plus then of course the livery variants.

08-06-2005, 07:08 PM	#17
Dr. Edmund H. Carus Master Collector Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: UK/Germany Posts: 801	Thanks. You are totally correct! Cheers! __________________ Edmund (now UK/IOM residency)

08-06-2005, 07:19 PM	#18
ChristiaanJ Junior Collector Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: France Posts: 2	Worked on our Gracious Lady for years, so always pleased if I can share a spot of useful info!

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