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Old 01-06-2017, 10:13 PM   #1
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Old 01-07-2017, 12:27 AM   #2
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I didn't want to jump in and make a negative comment..... but I can't help it. That 320-NEO is kind of an ugly duckling. It looks awkward, as if it was designed to clean off runways by sucking up all the dirt and debris. I think on the real one, the engines aren't that close to the ground. But the real ones are a little awkward too. Maybe I just need to get used to it.
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Old 01-07-2017, 02:05 AM   #3
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Low engines were my first thought too. Not a bad looking models, but those engines need to be raised up a bit.
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Good model.

The fan cowls of the real aircraft are very low above the ground.
I think that the documents I attach can help, check out N1.
46 cm >>> 2,3mm on the model …

MRW stands for Maximum Ramp Weight.

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I'm afraid that the documents are difficult to read …

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Is this diecast?
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The website says "made of high quality plastic".

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Is this diecast?
Herpa A320, A321, A319, A300, A330 & 340 models are make of plastic and fully assemble model. Not snap fit like Hogan Wings or Risesoon/Skymark.

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Looks like a pair of GE90's fitted in error.
But looking at pics on'net they are a very big engine on a small airframe.

Note to self will have to get spotting this year.
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It is a very nice model indeed. Purchased it some time ago and am happy with it.
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I don't like it, the engines seem excessively large & too low to the ground...

I have provided a picture of the real aircraft and even though the engines are in fact large in real life, on this Herpa example they still seem out of place & too large...

http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...1&d=1483793649
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I have to still agree on the low engine part. Here's another picture of the 1:1 and the engines still look too low, even if the aircraft in the picture is MRW. Looks like a good model with a good mold of the nose and cockpit window printing otherwise. IMHO, the main gear may be too short making the engines seem too low, or maybe the engines and pylons do need to be revised. My money is on the landing gear being too short. Looks like the model sits slightly tail low also, indicating short mains.

The model pictured here looks more like a ramp vacuum than an aircraft.
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On this forum, we often read : they seem to be …. they look like …
Just look at the documents I attached and make your own judgement.
Much better than relying on personal feelings.

That said, it is difficult to say …
The photo published by Charlie Alpha shows the aircraft taxiing to the terminal after a landing (flaps are retracted).

Ground clearance at MRW 46 cm
Ground clearance at 41 t (a very low landing weight) 56 cm
That makes a big difference.

I flew the "old" A 320 for five years but I have no personal opinion, technical facts are more important.

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Old 01-07-2017, 09:14 AM   #14
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As you say, technical documents do not lie, and pictures can be deceiving.

It is difficult to tell from the pictures of the model, but the ground clearance still does not look like 2.3mm that it should be. I don't have the model in front of me to measure, so this may just be the angle of the pictures. The engines on the model look like they may be slightly over sized as well, but again, maybe just the angle of the pictures.

Unfortunately, many members, including myself, rely on pictures on this forum to help make buying decisions. While not a perfect method, it is better than nothing when deciding on which models to spend money on. My experience is that if a model 'looks funny' in preview pictures such as this, it will look just as funny sitting on a shelf and I've ordered too many lemons in my model buying career to not be just a little bit cautious. I think this may be true for other collectors as well. If the model looks funny, people (me included) generally won't buy it. I'm reminded of the JCW 787 models. While JCW claimed the ground clearance was correct for a loaded 787, the model still looked funny and they ended up revising the mold (not very well, I might add) by extending the landing gear.

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Just a small note: IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT,JUST DON'T BUY IT!!

As simple as that.

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If it were only that simple..........

Many of the improved models that we all have in our collections are a result of customer critique, so criticism does have a place in our hobby if we even remotely interested in better models.

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SHOULD the nose landing gear failed, disaster due to engine too low
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Engines are out of scale too big, and the whole door / cheatline / cargo hold door is printed too high.
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We have to be honest, there is always some distortion on photos, what we see can be misleading and making a quick judgement can lead to a wrong statement.

Relying on documents available from the manufacturers is still the best option.

Of course these engines are big, much bigger than the CFM 56.
The engine nacelle of the CFM 56 is 2 m wide, the PW one is 2,67 m, that makes a big difference !

We are not used to seeing these engines, they will be a common sight in the coming years.

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SHOULD the nose landing gear failed, disaster due to engine too low
Don't worry, the engine pylons have been carefully designed …

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It is a very nice model indeed. Purchased it some time ago and am happy with it.
It does look low to me as well, but there will always be a lot of distortion when using wide angle lenses especially at short distances. Fortunately we have the actually dimensions supplied by Jean Pierre, and member Baerke actually has the model. If he can measure the ground clearance and cowl diameter when he has time, then at least those issues can be answered.
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We have to be honest, there is always some distortion on photos, what we see can be misleading and making a quick judgement can lead to a wrong statement.

Relying on documents available from the manufacturers is still the best option.

Of course these engines are big, much bigger than the CFM 56.
The engine nacelle of the CFM 56 is 2 m wide, the PW one is 2,67 m, that makes a big difference !

We are not used to seeing these engines, they will be a common sight in the coming years.

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Don't ever try to agrue with someone who don't know how to read the technical manual, but I have to say Herpa need some works on this engine, beside the hot section, you can also check the position of small fins on both side of the engine.
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For a lesson in how to read technical manuals, you may want to check here:

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It does look low to me as well, but there will always be a lot of distortion when using wide angle lenses especially at short distances. Fortunately we have the actually dimensions supplied by Jean Pierre, and member Baerke actually has the model. If he can measure the ground clearance and cowl diameter when he has time, then at least those issues can be answered.
Will try to measure the grond clearance.
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I have made some more pics of the Herpa LH A320-NEO in comparison to the normal LH A320. And I must conclude that the engines are too low. They are not touching the ground but the clearance is no more than 1 mm. Sorry I did not make any close ups because the pics are made with my tablet. I display the model on it's stand so for me, it is no big deal..

Herpa A320-200S Neo Lufthansa-20170111_200256.jpg

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Really sorry for that …

A very thin plastic card or strong paper in the wheel well between the landing gear and the wing ?

If it is possible, better than nothing ?

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Thanks for going through the time and effort to show us those comparison photo.
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Youre welcome. I will buy some extra halogen lamps to get some better lighting conditions Jean Pierre. Getting the house color A320 sometime soon from jc for further comparison.
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