Coming up next in 1:200

Flyer · 10-17-2002, 03:56 AM

Coming soon....

from Herpa 1:200.

Please don't ask anymore if it's premium or non-premium. It's only a "regular release"!

Dr. Edmund H. Carus · 10-17-2002, 09:53 AM

Yes, NP - and the windowline near the tail is STILL INCORRECT!

Cheers!

Flyer · 10-17-2002, 09:58 AM

Where is it incorrect? Can't see what you mean...

B-huj · 10-18-2002, 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Flyer

Where is it incorrect? Can't see what you mean...

it has been said in this board that the A340 by herpa has an extremely high window line, too far from the wing and too close to the "roof". another thing many have said is that herpa has neglected a slight "curving up" of the window line towards the tail. taka a look at the photo of the real thing.

Dr. Edmund H. Carus · 10-18-2002, 06:57 AM

This window-line problem has plagued Herpa for some time. The "Premiums" are correct but the windowlines tend to be "too high" on several NP models. They have promised to correct the 747 models in future production (post Sept 2002 ex China) and the Airbus will be on my agenda when I visit them shortly.

I'm trying to persuade Herpa to bring more model "finishing" and detailing back to Germany where the quality control issues on the 1:200 models will be far higher than China.

By the way, the NP models do yellow quite badly if white. Herpa is not being told the composition of the plastic being used by their Chinese supplier. The Chinese do like ABS as used in the LH Modell Edition a/c.

Cheers (suffering with 'Flu)!!

B-huj · 10-18-2002, 08:30 AM

here is the picture of the real thing.

and the model

Flyer · 10-18-2002, 08:53 AM

O.k. - I know what you mean. But it's not as bad as you say.... The real picture is taken at my local airport Dusseldorf International Airport where LTU is based and you can see many of them here. I must say that they really seem to have the window line as high as described! Maybe just sit and wait for the model and let's have a look how it appears...

B-huj · 10-18-2002, 09:48 AM

Flyer,

i replied to you because many articles have been written here about the windowline problem on Herpa NPs, as i said "it has been said in this board"...i personally only own the HERPA/HOGAN Cathay Pacific A330-300, and to me, the windows are in the right place.
On the other hand, I have taken a close look to the Lufthansa A340-300 "Koblenz" and the passenger windows do look a bit too high to me.
here is the image from herpa

actually, i am not SO sure about the windowline position problem because i am not so familiar with the real aircraft, but i would like to see the curving up at the rear.

Cheers,

Colin · 10-19-2002, 04:24 PM

As I understand it, the rearmost fuselage section on the A330/A340 comes from the A300-600, which also has the distinctive upward sweep of the windows. Presumeably, the floor in the rear of these aircraft is also slight raised as when you fly them and sit in the back you don't get the impression that the windows are sitting lower than the ones in front of you.

So why do the windows arch upwards? Maybe that creates more room underneath for cargo, or perhaps makes it easier to work inside the rear cargo hold?

niels · 10-19-2002, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dr. Edmund H. Carus
By the way, the NP models do yellow quite badly if white. Herpa is not being told the composition of the plastic being used by their Chinese supplier. The Chinese do like ABS as used in the LH Modell Edition a/c.
Cheers (suffering with 'Flu)!!

Hmmmm but wasn't the original yellowing foam-induced?
Sorry to drag that topic back.
By the way, has it been determined that Starjets:200s are not ABS? Not that the Virgin Sun need worry about yellowing!

Hope your flu is gone.

10-19-2002, 10:16 PM

Its okay, a US Airways would be much nicer.

Dr. Edmund H. Carus · 10-20-2002, 02:44 AM

Yes Niels, the Herpa yellowing was, I'm totally convinced, due to a faulty batch of "unreacted" PU packaging foam which affected some models due to VOC emmissions. There are cases where only parts of the models have discoloured in their packaging - these parts being in contact with the "bad" foam generally covering the upper portion of the a/c. Herpa does rely a lot (too much) on its vendors and their information and I know that the company was mislead in this area. So if your models in foam are OK and undiscoloured now, they will stay that way!

ABS is less resistant to very bright light and UV (UV mainly) than PS so please be careful where you display any ABS models!

By the way the quality of the plastic nomatter which type is very important. The worst offender in my collection is an "old type" non-Herpa Wooster which I got from BA on a transatlantic flight some 2 years ago which I displayed in my window (the model - a BA 747-400) is desparately inaccurate so I wasn't bothered about it! One side of this model is a vivid yellow/brown!

Cheers!

Dr. Edmund H. Carus · 10-20-2002, 02:50 AM

Just to let you know that I have a perfect undiscoloured DLH Modell Edition B 747-400 "Berlin" which lives in its box complete with foam etc. and has done since it was made. It is exactly the same colour as my recent "Expo 2000" model.

smoothjazz · 10-22-2002, 12:50 PM

That doesn't look too bad to me... I'm planning to get LH soon!

10-17-2002, 03:56 AM	#1
Flyer Collector Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Dusseldorf, GERMANY Posts: 134	Coming up next in 1:200 Coming soon.... from Herpa 1:200. Please don't ask anymore if it's premium or non-premium. It's only a "regular release"! Last edited by Flyer; 10-17-2002 at 04:00 AM.

10-17-2002, 09:53 AM	#2
Dr. Edmund H. Carus Master Collector Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: UK/Germany Posts: 801	LTU Airbus A-330 Yes, NP - and the windowline near the tail is STILL INCORRECT! Cheers! __________________ Edmund (now UK/IOM residency)

10-18-2002, 06:57 AM	#5
Dr. Edmund H. Carus Master Collector Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: UK/Germany Posts: 801	A-340 and other NP Models This window-line problem has plagued Herpa for some time. The "Premiums" are correct but the windowlines tend to be "too high" on several NP models. They have promised to correct the 747 models in future production (post Sept 2002 ex China) and the Airbus will be on my agenda when I visit them shortly. I'm trying to persuade Herpa to bring more model "finishing" and detailing back to Germany where the quality control issues on the 1:200 models will be far higher than China. By the way, the NP models do yellow quite badly if white. Herpa is not being told the composition of the plastic being used by their Chinese supplier. The Chinese do like ABS as used in the LH Modell Edition a/c. Cheers (suffering with 'Flu)!! __________________ Edmund (now UK/IOM residency)

10-18-2002, 09:48 AM	#8
B-huj Insane Collector Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,639	i am not sure Flyer, i replied to you because many articles have been written here about the windowline problem on Herpa NPs, as i said "it has been said in this board"...i personally only own the HERPA/HOGAN Cathay Pacific A330-300, and to me, the windows are in the right place. On the other hand, I have taken a close look to the Lufthansa A340-300 "Koblenz" and the passenger windows do look a bit too high to me. here is the image from herpa actually, i am not SO sure about the windowline position problem because i am not so familiar with the real aircraft, but i would like to see the curving up at the rear. Cheers,

10-20-2002, 02:44 AM	#12
Dr. Edmund H. Carus Master Collector Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: UK/Germany Posts: 801	ABS and Yellowing Yes Niels, the Herpa yellowing was, I'm totally convinced, due to a faulty batch of "unreacted" PU packaging foam which affected some models due to VOC emmissions. There are cases where only parts of the models have discoloured in their packaging - these parts being in contact with the "bad" foam generally covering the upper portion of the a/c. Herpa does rely a lot (too much) on its vendors and their information and I know that the company was mislead in this area. So if your models in foam are OK and undiscoloured now, they will stay that way! ABS is less resistant to very bright light and UV (UV mainly) than PS so please be careful where you display any ABS models! By the way the quality of the plastic nomatter which type is very important. The worst offender in my collection is an "old type" non-Herpa Wooster which I got from BA on a transatlantic flight some 2 years ago which I displayed in my window (the model - a BA 747-400) is desparately inaccurate so I wasn't bothered about it! One side of this model is a vivid yellow/brown! Cheers! __________________ Edmund (now UK/IOM residency)

10-17-2002, 09:58 AM	#3
Flyer Collector Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Dusseldorf, GERMANY Posts: 134	Where is it incorrect? Can't see what you mean...

10-18-2002, 08:30 AM	#6
B-huj Insane Collector Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,639	here is the picture of the real thing. and the model

10-18-2002, 08:53 AM	#7
Flyer Collector Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Dusseldorf, GERMANY Posts: 134	O.k. - I know what you mean. But it's not as bad as you say.... The real picture is taken at my local airport Dusseldorf International Airport where LTU is based and you can see many of them here. I must say that they really seem to have the window line as high as described! Maybe just sit and wait for the model and let's have a look how it appears...

10-19-2002, 04:24 PM	#9
Colin Senior Collector Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 409	As I understand it, the rearmost fuselage section on the A330/A340 comes from the A300-600, which also has the distinctive upward sweep of the windows. Presumeably, the floor in the rear of these aircraft is also slight raised as when you fly them and sit in the back you don't get the impression that the windows are sitting lower than the ones in front of you. So why do the windows arch upwards? Maybe that creates more room underneath for cargo, or perhaps makes it easier to work inside the rear cargo hold?

10-19-2002, 10:16 PM	#11
Romania is #1 Guest Posts: n/a	Its okay, a US Airways would be much nicer.

10-20-2002, 02:50 AM	#13
Dr. Edmund H. Carus Master Collector Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: UK/Germany Posts: 801	Reassurance re. DLH Modell Edition a/c Just to let you know that I have a perfect undiscoloured DLH Modell Edition B 747-400 "Berlin" which lives in its box complete with foam etc. and has done since it was made. It is exactly the same colour as my recent "Expo 2000" model. __________________ Edmund (now UK/IOM residency)

10-22-2002, 12:50 PM	#14
smoothjazz More Korean Air in 1/200! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SEOUL KOREA Posts: 6,462	That doesn't look too bad to me... I'm planning to get LH soon! __________________ BENJAMIN MY COLLECTION http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...tion-1179.html

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