Hoping for lots of B742's and B743's to be honest! But that varig B744 would fit my criteria as well..Also in for a delivery colours KL B744!!
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Anyway, all is possible with all 747 that where made ! At 200 scale, I haven't any 747, because I'm not satisfied of Inflight mould. JCW will change my collection and I will ad many 747 I don't have yet !
An AC 747-400 or a 747-400 Combi is long overdue! Here is a picture from Airliners.net of a combi - note the aft large cargo door on the main deck. Fond memories seeing these in the last AC livery before retirement.
I have no clue how these models are made and would like to give manufactures the benefit of the doubt. If it can be done and has been done, I agree, make it right (I have never seen Aeroclassic's 1:400 models...I don't own any). But if there's some sort of physical limitation, that's something we have to accept (e.g. I don't expect them to make static dischargers on the mold, although that would be kind of cool).
Here is the Aeroclassics A330/A340 nose and you can find the beautifully molded flat area and prisma lines one the windshield area.
Even a 1/400 model could have been done that, there's no reason why it could not be done on a 1/200 scale model.
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I personally could point out a dozen things wrong with the current 747 mold (I'm sure the majority of the collectors could care less). What I don't understand is that given the size of the 1:200 747, why so much details in the mold are wrong or missing.
I get it, it's never going to be 100% perfect...all I can ask for is "reasonably" accurate. I have 2 or 3 pretty crappy Inflight 747's in my collection which I, reluctantly, accept. For all intents and purposes, it can't be mistaken for anything but a 747.
You know, now since these 1/200 finished diecast models have been called "adult collectible items" instead of "toys looks like 747", I personally think there should be more effort put to make them as real as possible, 'cause that's the concept for a "model", not just improving the assembling method which is just a minor issue.
I usually have my motto that "nose is the face of an aircraft while windshield's the eyes", so that's why nose area is so important to 747 but not the wing root joint.
I believe Disney also agree with me, as a common sense.
So no offence guys, just stay cool before getting hot.
It' still not the time~~~
Even a 1/400 model could have been done that, there's no reason why it could not be done on a 1/200 scale model.
We can only speculate - I agree with you, if it can be done in 1/400 why not 1/200? Maybe they can't? Only the manufacturer or someone who know facts on how these things are made can answer that.
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I personally think there should be more effort put to make them as real as possible, 'cause that's the concept for a "model"
I agree with you here too, BUT given that more or less every 747 model has sold-out, we are in the minority. Even the horrible 707 models are sold-out. People generally don't care and they will buy them to expand their collection which I have no issues with - more power to them.
I also get that there is a balance between how much detail to put in and the effect on cost. In my opinion, all 1:200 747 should have the amount of details in the Herpa Premium/Model-Edition and should be priced accordingly. The ones I have are not perfect (funny seams, etc.), but the details in the mold are impressive. The mold has the seam at body station 140, the radio altimeters, the electronic access door (although it's missing the fwd one), etc....none of these details exist in the current die-cast mold.
For the 747, the empennage alone had about 6 binders full of Boeing structural diagrams with angles and dimensions called out to the 10th decimal place...do I realistically think these details in these binders be replicated in 1:200? No. However, I certainly hope JCWings can inspect them so they can improve upon what's currently available and not just rely upon photographs and basic diagrams.
Why worry about liveries, and colour schemes, when the main core here is to achieve a proper shape like mentioned before?!
You can have a worm like nose in the A350, 787, but the classics need proper shaped nose and cockpit areas.
Im with Haneto on this pne. Inflights is still the best 747 out there...and the very first releases with sharp looking landing gears and wheels/rubber tires are still number 1!
Look at their Convairs, the cockpit windows area is well shaped, faceted, thus making it a superior model. It can be done and theyve shown us.
My guess here...these will go on as they are being shown here, let the liveries be printed!!!
Rc
No matter how, JCW's 747 will turn a new page on higher standard. Thanks to members' constructive suggestions, I'm sure JC will listen as usual. Being number 1, it won't be forever.
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This kind of groove on the fairing between the wing and the fuselage, ahead of the leading edge is suspect...
Actually I'm very glad they have that there, as it will be easy for them consistently place the border of the aluminum colored leading edge to where the livery paint colors come in. This can clearly be seen in this NWA Bowling Shoe livery I have been voting for for years
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Actually I'm very glad they have that there, as it will be easy for them consistently place the border of the aluminum colored leading edge to where the livery paint colors come in. This can clearly be seen in this NWA Bowling Shoe livery I have been voting for for years
Nice approach at Kai Tak.
You are absolutely right, I simply think this detail is a bit too pronounced.
But maybe it's because of the color of the sample.
I'm sure we'll have a very nice models.
It would be nice also to use this energy in new moulds of models that for the time being doesn't exist.
Early DC 8 and B 707, A 310, a good VC 10, Comet I ...
I don't get the obsession with the Hibiscus livery.
We've all seen how the Freedom of Space B777 performed. They were given away practically for free, because nobody wanted them. I've seen sellers selling them for 40$ just to get rid of them...
Only if they make decent P&W engines. I know this has been discussed to death, but I guess I'm one of those evil demented collectors who thinks this is a significant flaw.
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Definitely. PW engines are badly needed, hope they make the cut, looks like the usual GE in the mould above, would also then consider a UA Blue Tulip, Battleship and Saul Bass trio essential releases if they did press thru with PWs though!
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Estimated Time of Arrival?
P&W Engine and GE Engine will be separated instead of using the same tooling on previous inflight mould ,ETA...before Christmas!!
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Great news Marcus, bring it on ! Yes I am dreaming, versions one and two would be nice.
Is Qantas Wunala Dreaming the launch customer livery on your new 747-4 mould? You don't have to answer that open question.
I just hope so
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wow both the 747 and a350 look amazing...I have a great eye for detail...and yes the wings are differently attached to the fuselage on the 747 which makes it look more realistic ..As for the cockpit section we need to see the decal first
Great photos Marcus,
Any chance of any Singapore Airlines 744 in the large font, 2000's billboard +/- SQ Cargo in the lineup, very hard to come by. Few releases this year in newer schemes. Keep up the good work.
I simply think this detail is a bit too pronounced. But maybe it's because of the color of the sample.
Jean Pierre - I tend to agree with your initial assessment. Yes, it's a bit hard to tell at this point, but that groove is very suspect. Another poster here brought this up (I forgot who): a feature that might be distinct in 1:1 scale does not necessarily appear to be so in 1:200 scale.
Perhaps this is a case where molds are being created based on photo references alone. Looking at Boeing references, this area of the fairing is made up of four distinct individual aluminum panels. That "groove" is actually a "bend" in those individual pieces (panel 292G, 192AK, 192AE, and 192AC...the panels end where you see the rivets, not at the "bends").
In my opinion, Herpa actually did a nice job replicating this section - from the bottom you can clearly see the crease...in my opinion there should be no deep groove here, but a slight bend caused by a crease in the individual panels:
On another side note, JCWings please take note: do you see how Herpa did a fantastic job replicating the DME's, the radio altimeter, the marker beacon, the electronics bay access door (Hepra actually missed the forward door), a proper looking drain mast, etc? This is the level of detail that I personally expect at 1:200..if it's going to cost more, so be it. I'll be happy to pay a premium as I'd much rather have one or two great models over several average ones (yes, I know I'm a minority here).
Also, I understand you would need to release several liveries on this single mold to recoup the costs. I get it. But as I might have mentioned, keep in mind there are features on the 747-400 that are very distinct based on what year it was made, the customer, etc. In other words, don't put a Boeing Connexion system on a 747-400 livery from 1990, etc. (and don't paint it on; make the bump in the fuselage as it should appear).
Jean Pierre - I tend to agree with your initial assessment. Yes, it's a bit hard to tell at this point, but that groove is very suspect. Another poster here brought this up (I forgot who): a feature that might be distinct in 1:1 scale does not necessarily appear to be so in 1:200 scale.
Perhaps this is a case where molds are being created based on photo references alone. Looking at Boeing references, this area of the fairing is made up of four distinct individual aluminum panels. That "groove" is actually a "bend" in those individual pieces (panel 292G, 192AK, 192AE, and 192AC...the panels end where you see the rivets, not at the "bends").
In my opinion, Herpa actually did a nice job replicating this section - from the bottom you can clearly see the crease...in my opinion there should be no deep groove here, but a slight bend caused by a crease in the individual panels:
On another side note, JCWings please take note: do you see how Herpa did a fantastic job replicating the DME's, the radio altimeter, the marker beacon, the electronics bay access door (Hepra actually missed the forward door), a proper looking drain mast, etc? This is the level of detail that I personally expect at 1:200..if it's going to cost more, so be it. I'll be happy to pay a premium as I'd much rather have one or two great models over several average ones (yes, I know I'm a minority here).
Also, I understand you would need to release several liveries on this single mold to recoup the costs. I get it. But as I might have mentioned, keep in mind there are features on the 747-400 that are very distinct based on what year it was made, the customer, etc. In other words, don't put a Boeing Connexion system on a 747-400 livery from 1990, etc. (and don't paint it on; make the bump in the fuselage as it should appear).
Personally the SQ Tropical is the top of the list....both rego's of course.
Since one of the SQ Tropicals (9V-SPK) crashed killing many people, I don't think it will be done by any manufacturer. So you/we can only expect 9V-SPL.
I guess all our Aussie collectors down here would have already started saving up for our DREAM to come true......Thanks Marcus and JC.....
Christmas should be the best time RR,GE and all red
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Marcus, please let us know if you will be doing a KLM 747 current colors! The Inflight200 version looks like it can't even compare to this mould! Save us all some money with some hints
Please post all your suggestions of what should be made in this thread or send me a private message
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Marcus, please let us know if you will be doing a KLM 747 current colors! The Inflight200 version looks like it can't even compare to this mould! Save us all some money with some hints
No plan on this one at the moment......not sure about the future
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All except the first have been done before but are long sold out and trade at sometimes extreme prices on the secondary market. To me that is a sign that a new version would sell well.
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I'm waiting for MAS in Hibiscus livery.....picture credit to Quinn Savit (Airliners.net)
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