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Istari 04-18-2012 10:04 PM

1:200 Russian Swan TU160 Blackjack
 
Some of you guys may find this one interesting, the most recent colour scheme on a 1:200 scale Tupolev TU160. Decals custom made by me, casting is a HBM, landing gear details, construction and painting by me.

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...d/175051ba.jpg

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...d/27a1d118.jpg

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...d/1ab4edf9.jpg

Charlie Alpha 04-18-2012 11:17 PM

Re: 1:200 Russian Swan TU160 Blackjack
 
VERY nice model. You can see then resemblance to the North American Rockwell B-1!

Nice job on the decals and landing gear also.

KRASAIRIL62 04-19-2012 08:39 AM

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Gorgeous plane and you made a master piece Ben!

Mmm perhaps you should let it go and sell it to ME!!!!

MSR777 04-19-2012 09:01 AM

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Thats a stunner! Like the B1 certainly, although the Blackjack is a fair bit larger.

Istari 04-19-2012 09:21 AM

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Thanks guys,

KRASAIRIL62, it would certainly be possible to make another of these, just need to acquire a HBM TU-160 :)

Here's a comparison shot of the TU160 and the B1b lancer since they do look so similar, I am certain there was some espionage going on here, reminds me of the Concorde/TU144 situation, there's probably countless other examples of this happening too, Forger and Harrier?

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...d/ff61f40b.jpg

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...d/f936d0cf.jpg

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...d/5fb16571.jpg

MSR777 04-19-2012 11:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Istari (Post 951397)
I am certain there was some espionage going on here, reminds me of the Concorde/TU144 situation, there's probably countless other examples of this happening too, Forger and Harrier?

I think its more a case of there being only a limited number of design variations possible, for the manufacturers of aircraft like the B1/Tu160 the Concorde/Tu144 and the Forger/Harrier, as each of these types have very specialised operating criteria.

Istari 04-19-2012 11:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MSR777 (Post 951418)
I think its more a case of there being only a limited number of design variations possible, for the manufacturers of aircraft like the B1/Tu160 the Concorde/Tu144 and the Forger/Harrier, as each of these types have very specialised operating criteria.

A good point, and it is very true that there is a limit to the number of shapes compatible with the aircrafts requirements, but sometimes it goes a little far. Such as the head of Aeroflot being arrested in possession of detailed Concorde plans in the 1960s. Or the TU4 a reverse engineered B29, but the west is probably just as guilty of poaching ideas from the Soviet Union. What interests me most is that china is now reverse engineering Russian aircraft, and the Russians are getting angry about it.. talk about irony.

firefly 04-19-2012 12:30 PM

Re: 1:200 Russian Swan TU160 Blackjack
 
Very good models and comparison shots.

Blinder22 04-19-2012 06:28 PM

Re: 1:200 Russian Swan TU160 Blackjack
 
Very nice ben, it came out well, these castings look a nice alternative to diecast ! As for the whole B1/160 discussion i recently done a case study on the 160 and did a section on a comparison between the bone n blackjack and i can tell ya the 160 out performs the b-1 by a long shot but they have similarities, b-1 was built first and the 160 was built in direct response to it, a little useless info guys when the 160 was making it final approach the pilot has two make two adjustments every 3 sec to control n configure the aircraft to land a seriously complex machine the fuel is also mixed with nitrous oxide

MSR777 04-20-2012 07:52 AM

Re: 1:200 Russian Swan TU160 Blackjack
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Istari (Post 951426)
A good point, and it is very true that there is a limit to the number of shapes compatible with the aircrafts requirements, but sometimes it goes a little far. Such as the head of Aeroflot being arrested in possession of detailed Concorde plans in the 1960s. Or the TU4 a reverse engineered B29, but the west is probably just as guilty of poaching ideas from the Soviet Union. What interests me most is that china is now reverse engineering Russian aircraft, and the Russians are getting angry about it.. talk about irony.

I think that you're quite right, some of the similarities may have been intentional. The Tu4 is a very good illustration for that, although in that instance, the Soviets took the 'gift' of the force landed B29, in order to speedily gain the necessary knowledge of its construction, and certain component designs, to incorporate into their own early bombers. The very early Tu95 Bear variants benefitted from that information. With ref to the Tu144, I think that the situation concerning plans and 'stolen' engineering methods may have a little substance to them, and anyway, they appear not to have been utilised a great deal by the Soviets themselves. Both types had some quite fundamental differences to each other, in terms of design and technical methods, in order to attain their goal of getting these aircraft into service. At the end of the day, both the Soviet Union and Great Britain succeeded in getting an SST into service carrying fare paying passengers for however long, a substantial feat of engineering by both constructors I'm sure you'll agree..


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