Istari

F22 Raptor completely disappeared this week, pushing the safety record of the F22 further into the red

The Air Force lost contact Tuesday evening with an F-22 that flew out of the Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson in Alaska on a training flight. The Air Force has since spotted the wreckage, but a search is still under way for the pilot, who may have ejected.

http://www.aolnews.com/tech/article/stealth-crash-in-alaska-pushes-f-22-raptor-accident-rate-higher/19724448?icid=maing|main5|11|link3|26642_wbml-aol

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Ouch, 6 losses in 2009 alone.
Is each wreck with a different problem or is there a recurring fault which is intermittent and the root cause hasn't been determined and a fix established or implemented.

The USAF should have bought the Eurofighter (Nothing comes Close!) or the Rafale.

Istari

I have no idea on the causes of each of these, but it reminds me of the fatalities in other advanced combat aircraft (particularly in the 1960's-70's) where the new aircraft were sometimes just too much for pilots to handle. There's a great documentary on the discovery channel i watched about it recently, ill try and dig it up

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champpitbull2

6 class A mishaps does not mean they were total losses. A Class A mishap is one resulting in "(1) Total cost of $1,000,000 or more for property damage, or (2) a fatality, or permanent total disability, or (3) destruction of, or damage beyond economical repair to, an Air Force aircraft." I know of 3 that have crashed. One in testing, one last year, and this one. With an airplane this expensive and complex, it's not hard to have an accident that results in more then $1 million damage. Many mishaps occur during maintenance. For instance, a few years ago an Airman was conducting maintenance on a C-17 spoiler, but the proper saftey procedures weren't followed resulting in that Airman being crushed to death by the C-17's spoiler. There wasn't much damage to the plane, but the mishap resulted in a death and therefore the C-17 was involved in a class A mishap.

gospodin

In any new aircraft, especially one as advanced as this, there are teething problems. Still a fantastic aircraft, has beaten the Eurofighter and Rafale in comparison testing. Would you honestly believe the US would use a foreign aircraft as its frontline fighter? The US still has a massive arms sale lead over Russia, the next closest supplier. That wouldn't go over too well if the US was using a non-domestic premier fighter.

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SuperKungFu

According to the latest news, the Air Force still hadn't established if the pilot was killed in the crash or ejected safely since the wreckage was in such a condition that they can't tell if the ejection seat was used.

The pilot has been identified as Capt. Jeffrey Haney.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/11/19/alaska ... index.html

and

http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2010/ ... ka-111910/

I hope he makes it but this doesn't look good...not only he has to survive in near sub-zero temperature since Tuesday, but before he crashed this aircraft along with a second F-22 practiced individual intercepts and were nearing completion of the mission when Haney's Jet disappeared from ground radar tracking and from communications with the other aircraft. It may have been possible during the training the pilot lost track of the altitude or position since it was at night and crashed along the mountain side (where the wreckage was found)

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