Airbus A400M Transporter roll-out

Rex · 01-23-2008, 12:11 PM

of the Jigz

Well it's still missing a lot of stuff on it.

Here you see it on the way out

Chansen · 01-23-2008, 04:18 PM

Nice YC-15BAe146ish!

Rex · 01-23-2008, 04:25 PM

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Nice YC-15BAe146ish!

Let's just say it's a modernized C-130 with a T-tail.

Chansen · 01-23-2008, 04:37 PM

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Let's just say it's a modernized C-130 with a T-tail.

Also has a feel of a AN-70. The ground footprint of the wheel placement looks that way. And it has a A320 cockpit windows.

Rex · 01-23-2008, 05:14 PM

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Also has a feel of a AN-70.

Believe me, they all say that it looks like the AN-70 on all aviation photo sites. lol

gospodin · 01-23-2008, 07:55 PM

How can they say that looks like an An-70? It's got a T-tail, and the nose isn't even close.

Rex · 01-23-2008, 08:01 PM

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How can they say that looks like an An-70? It's got a T-tail, and the nose isn't even close.

I dont know, the AN70 isnt even T-tailed. It is comparable to the AN70 though. I think it's because they look at it from the front. From that angle, they do "resemble" the aircraft, they just have to look from the side, and they'll see the beauty and differences of these two aircrafts.

Mystère · 01-24-2008, 06:10 PM

Not many ways of designing a military transport, anyway...

Justino · 01-24-2008, 07:20 PM

it looks just like a C-17 but its a bit skinnier, different cockpit windows, and no winglets. But the tail looks exactly the same as a -17.

Rex · 01-25-2008, 02:22 AM

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it looks just like a C-17 but its a bit skinnier, different cockpit windows, and no winglets. But the tail looks exactly the same as a -17.

Hey Justino, I am told that the use of winglets for the A400M Transporter is eliminated by the 8 bladed propellers.
Here's one of my posted photos...

TexAV8R · 01-25-2008, 09:57 AM

I like the model!

B-16707 · 01-25-2008, 01:16 PM

someone who lives in Toulouse needs to buy me the model and ship it to me.

Rex · 01-25-2008, 01:41 PM

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someone who lives in Toulouse needs to buy me the model and ship it to me.

I see you haven't found anyone yet, was it only available from the Lupa "store" ..?

I'll get back to you, if I find any A400M on the net.

B-16707 · 01-25-2008, 01:46 PM

lupa doesnt have them, lupa told me that they are all at the airbus shop

corby78 · 01-27-2008, 10:03 AM

If you ask me, it looks alot like the good old C-141. Put that hump on the top and its a match.

Prestwick Pioneer · 01-27-2008, 12:34 PM

Nobody has said that it looks like a Kawasaki C-1 yet. Or the 4 engine tech demo of it that TRDI used for STOL trials.

Rex · 01-27-2008, 03:56 PM

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Nobody has said that it looks like a Kawasaki C-1 yet. Or the 4 engine tech demo of it that TRDI used for STOL trials.

Good that you brough up that C-1.

Comparable aircraft to the AN-70 and the A400M.

The C-X with 2 CF6-80C2's will replace JASDF's aging C-1s.

4 props or 2 Jet engines ? The 2 engine mini C-17 looks like a mean machine.

Justino · 01-27-2008, 07:18 PM

4 are better than 2 I always say!!

gospodin · 01-28-2008, 08:19 AM

It just looks like a C-130 on steroids, with a t-tail. Good-looking for a cargo plane, hope they sell well. Lots of potential models from that one...

D-AIHC · 01-28-2008, 10:09 AM

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4 are better than 2 I always say!!

Is there an equivalent of "ETOPS" for military cargo flights?

Prestwick Pioneer · 01-28-2008, 12:21 PM

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Good that you brough up that C-1.

Yeh, I was specifically referring to the modified one with, I think an advanced wing and 4 engines that the TRDI used as an experimental aircraft. Im sure I had a picture in a magazine years ago. but the c-1 is a cool wee aircraft. But how cool is the P-7? A cool P-3 replacement (but off topic so lets stop that discussion).
Someone posted a diorama with Kawasaki C-1s in the background a while back somewhere.

As for Military ETOPS?? I know a friend once flew an Andover C.1 from Gander to Brize Norton.

Spectre · 01-31-2008, 10:36 AM

I am not slamming Airbus over this at all...but the EU should have just bought the An-70 10 years ago and been done with it. It is a great plane. and the A400M still has many years ahead to become operationally ready.

Rex · 01-31-2008, 10:45 AM

Name an EU country who have operated/bought an antonov before ??

Excluding: Lease operations / Humanitary flights.

Spectre · 01-31-2008, 10:47 AM

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Name an EU country who have operated/bought an antonov before ??

Excluding: Lease operations / Humanitary flights.

Name one that has bought an Airbus for tactical airlift

or better yet, name an Airbus capable of tactical airlift.

Rex · 01-31-2008, 11:11 AM

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Name one that has bought an Airbus for tactical airlift

or better yet, name an Airbus capable of tactical airlift.

How, when Airbus doesn't have one ?

And what I meant with my comment was that Europe is too ignorant to realize that AN-70 is a better product. Not much in differential between these two other than that the A400M obviously costs more than the AN70, yet it can only carry less than the AN70. But who cares, The EU is paying for its development with the tax payers money. Airbus just want a piece of the cake, starting with the taxpayers money from European countries.

Spectre · 01-31-2008, 11:15 AM

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How, when Airbus doesn't have one ?

And what I meant with my comment was that Europe is too ignorant to realize that AN-70 is a better product. Not much in differential between these two other than that the A400M obviously costs more than the AN70, yet it can only carry less than the AN70. But who cares, The EU is paying for its development with the tax payers money. Airbus just want a piece of the cake, starting with the taxpayers money from European countries.

and they could have had it ten years ago...

My point was that Airbus is untested in this area and it is a huge step, plus, they have not made much progress...mark my word, the A400M will massively under perform its estimates and then the EU will have to bite the bullet and buy even more of the C-130Js and C-17s.
Antonov is about the best out there when it come to tactical airlift.