FRONTIER AIRLINES files for CHAPTER 11 BANKRUPTCY!!!

MarinerOne · 04-11-2008, 07:11 PM

It gets WORSE each and EVERY day for the airlines.

Pretty soon, it's just gonna be one MAJOR DOMESTIC AIRLINE.

Maybe it'll be called SOUTH-TRANS-CON-DEL-TED or something cobbled together.

UPDATE:Frontier Joins List Of Airlines Filing For Bankruptcy

ccs757 · 04-11-2008, 07:17 PM

OMG!!! please!! why frontier!!!

C-Rex · 04-11-2008, 07:27 PM

"The next to go is Frontier" That's what they said last week, but I didnt know it was for real untill I read this today.

"The **** has hit the fan"

MarinerOne · 04-11-2008, 08:00 PM

I JUST flew on Frontier this past week, and I LOVE their service!!!

DANG!!!

lufthansa340 · 04-11-2008, 08:03 PM

Before we sound the death knell for Frontier remember that this is an entirely different situation than what Aloha, ATA and Skybus faced. It is true that Frontier is facing rising fuel costs and had to sell 4 planes to raise capital but this particular move into bankruptcy is really a shot a their creditors. Wells Fargo was planning on withholding capital from the airline which would have proved detrimental, to say the least. Although this move into bankruptcy may foreshadow greater issues at the airline, at this point it is a bit of legal maneuvering to free up cash.

1:200Freak · 04-11-2008, 08:48 PM

I'm kind of glad I got this one

fazeman · 04-11-2008, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lufthansa340

Before we sound the death knell for Frontier remember that this is an entirely different situation than what Aloha, ATA and Skybus faced. It is true that Frontier is facing rising fuel costs and had to sell 4 planes to raise capital but this particular move into bankruptcy is really a shot a their creditors. Wells Fargo was planning on withholding capital from the airline which would have proved detrimental, to say the least. Although this move into bankruptcy may foreshadow greater issues at the airline, at this point it is a bit of legal maneuvering to free up cash.

It is Frontier Airline's credit card processor, First Data that is withholding payment from advance ticket sales. That's not good for any airline. Hopefully, the other airlines will have enough cash on hand to weather the rest of this year.

lufthansa340 · 04-11-2008, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fazeman

It is Frontier Airline's credit card processor, First Data that is withholding payment from advance ticket sales. That's not good for any airline. Hopefully, the other airlines will have enough cash on hand to weather the rest of this year.

Exactly, which was making Wells Fargo very nervous... Wells Fargo holds the largest claim on the airline (representing mutual funds, other holders, etc.). By freeing up the funds from First Data you placate Wells Fargo for the moment

BoeingFlyer11 · 04-11-2008, 09:13 PM

frontier will recover,
i can feel it!!!!!!!!!

Mystère · 04-12-2008, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BoeingFlyer11

frontier will recover,
i can feel it!!!!!!!!!

Or not. Sad to see an old company getting that bad. The rising fuel costs are going to hit the air transport industry hard, and even introducing new aircrafts with 20 or 30% less consumption won't be enough, I'm afraid. I guess this situation will prompt the development of less oil-dependent technologies, but many will bite the dust meanwhile...

lollomz · 04-14-2008, 03:36 AM

Really hard times for a lot of airlines... very sad news!

Lollo

Master Shake747 · 04-14-2008, 03:19 PM

A lot of airlines here in the US are facing the possibility of going under for good or already have. Any international carriers facing this same reality? I mean what will replace the airline industry?

1:200Freak · 04-15-2008, 03:14 PM

Came across this on Frontier One Last Ski Trip ATL-DEN-SLC-DEN-ATL — Trip Reports Forum | Airliners.net

Interesting to note, or maybe I just noticed it on the photos in this report, the inner winglets actually have the same animal as the one on the tail...that is so cool...

http://www.airliners.net/uf/53691483.../php5DcVbp.jpg

Would have been fun to have snap off winglets to match one of the 6 tails that came with the Frontier Hogan aircraft....Such a great colour scheme. I hope they can stick around though!

B-16707 · 05-30-2008, 01:10 PM

now how did i miss this thread.

they are still flying right? my ticket with them for next week hasnt been canceled....cross fingers

Horizon CRJ700 · 05-30-2008, 01:34 PM

Nope, they are still flying. I think that they cut the delicious food, though.

I have always had good experiences with Frontier, except once, my flight was delayed for more than 6 hours. A 6AM departure scheduled departed at about 12:00 PM. Ridiculous.

For this reason, my family doesn't fly them anymore.

dylan · 05-30-2008, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Horizon CRJ700

Nope, they are still flying. I think that they cut the delicious food, though.

I have always had good experiences with Frontier, except once, my flight was delayed for more than 6 hours. A 6AM departure scheduled departed at about 12:00 PM. Ridiculous.

For this reason, my family doesn't fly them anymore.

What was the reason for the delay?

04-11-2008, 07:11 PM	#1
MarinerOne Insane Collector Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: SAN Age: 39 Posts: 1,170	FRONTIER AIRLINES files for CHAPTER 11 BANKRUPTCY!!! It gets WORSE each and EVERY day for the airlines. Pretty soon, it's just gonna be one MAJOR DOMESTIC AIRLINE. Maybe it'll be called SOUTH-TRANS-CON-DEL-TED or something cobbled together. UPDATE:Frontier Joins List Of Airlines Filing For Bankruptcy

04-11-2008, 07:17 PM	#2
ccs757 ¿Por que NO te Callas? Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: VZLA Age: 14 Posts: 452	Re: FRONTIER AIRLINES files for CHAPTER 11 BANKRUPTCY!!! OMG!!! please!! why frontier!!! __________________ **VENEZUELA more latinamerican and spanish models in 1:500 please!!!!!**

04-11-2008, 07:27 PM	#3
C-Rex Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,275	Re: FRONTIER AIRLINES files for CHAPTER 11 BANKRUPTCY!!! "The next to go is Frontier" That's what they said last week, but I didnt know it was for real untill I read this today. "The *** has hit the fan"*

04-11-2008, 08:00 PM	#4
MarinerOne Insane Collector Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: SAN Age: 39 Posts: 1,170	Re: FRONTIER AIRLINES files for CHAPTER 11 BANKRUPTCY!!! I JUST flew on Frontier this past week, and I LOVE their service!!! DANG!!!

04-11-2008, 08:03 PM	#5
lufthansa340 Supreme Overlord Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ny Age: 24 Posts: 206	Re: FRONTIER AIRLINES files for CHAPTER 11 BANKRUPTCY!!! Before we sound the death knell for Frontier remember that this is an entirely different situation than what Aloha, ATA and Skybus faced. It is true that Frontier is facing rising fuel costs and had to sell 4 planes to raise capital but this particular move into bankruptcy is really a shot a their creditors. Wells Fargo was planning on withholding capital from the airline which would have proved detrimental, to say the least. Although this move into bankruptcy may foreshadow greater issues at the airline, at this point it is a bit of legal maneuvering to free up cash. __________________ GREG My Collection: http://www.wings900.com/modeldatabase/mycollection/collection-14242.html

04-11-2008, 08:48 PM	#6
1:200Freak Complete Wacko! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 3,781	Re: FRONTIER AIRLINES files for CHAPTER 11 BANKRUPTCY!!! I'm kind of glad I got this one

04-11-2008, 09:13 PM	#9
BoeingFlyer11 Senior Collector Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Michigan Age: 13 Posts: 165	Re: FRONTIER AIRLINES files for CHAPTER 11 BANKRUPTCY!!! frontier will recover, i can feel it!!!!!!!!! __________________ BoeingFlyer11 MY COLLECTION

04-14-2008, 03:36 AM	#11
lollomz Insane Collector Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Monza - Italy Age: 35 Posts: 1,817	Re: FRONTIER AIRLINES files for CHAPTER 11 BANKRUPTCY!!! Really hard times for a lot of airlines... very sad news! Lollo __________________ TRIJETS LOVER!

04-14-2008, 03:19 PM	#12
Master Shake747 I lost my collection Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Atlantic, IA Posts: 183	Re: FRONTIER AIRLINES files for CHAPTER 11 BANKRUPTCY!!! A lot of airlines here in the US are facing the possibility of going under for good or already have. Any international carriers facing this same reality? I mean what will replace the airline industry?

04-15-2008, 03:14 PM	#13
1:200Freak Complete Wacko! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 3,781	Re: FRONTIER AIRLINES files for CHAPTER 11 BANKRUPTCY!!! Came across this on Frontier One Last Ski Trip ATL-DEN-SLC-DEN-ATL — Trip Reports Forum \| Airliners.net Interesting to note, or maybe I just noticed it on the photos in this report, the inner winglets actually have the same animal as the one on the tail...that is so cool... http://www.airliners.net/uf/53691483.../php5DcVbp.jpg Would have been fun to have snap off winglets to match one of the 6 tails that came with the Frontier Hogan aircraft....Such a great colour scheme. I hope they can stick around though! Last edited by 1:200Freak; 04-15-2008 at 03:18 PM.

05-30-2008, 01:10 PM	#14
B-16707 i need more space Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 6,305	Re: FRONTIER AIRLINES files for CHAPTER 11 BANKRUPTCY!!! now how did i miss this thread. they are still flying right? my ticket with them for next week hasnt been canceled....cross fingers __________________ The Completed Customs The Airport want 1:200 B773ER details decals? for info check this out http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...tml#post601882

05-30-2008, 01:34 PM	#15
Horizon CRJ700 Village Idiot Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: KPDX Posts: 708	Re: FRONTIER AIRLINES files for CHAPTER 11 BANKRUPTCY!!! Nope, they are still flying. I think that they cut the delicious food, though. I have always had good experiences with Frontier, except once, my flight was delayed for more than 6 hours. A 6AM departure scheduled departed at about 12:00 PM. Ridiculous. For this reason, my family doesn't fly them anymore. __________________ "the first thing any country, no matter how poor it is or how war-torn, must do upon independence is buy a 747 and fly it to Heathrow".

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