A340 Crash in Toulouse, France

Steven33458 · 02-13-2008, 02:59 PM

In case you missed it: good photos of what NOT to do while working in the cockpit of a modern air craft -- a clear case of "ESO" (engineering speak for Equipment Smarter than Operator).

This wreck is a brand new A340-600, never flown.Thank the French and their Arab friends for this bit of comedy.

Nine employees of the airline in the aircraft, no employees from Airbus were present. They went out to the run-up area. Took all four engines to takeoff power with a virtually empty aircraft. No chocks, not that it would have mattered. Brakes will not hold it back anyway.

Turns out the takeoff warning horn was blaring away in the cockpit because they had all FOUR engines at full power. The aircraft thought they were trying to takeoff but it had not been configured properly (flaps/slats, etc).

Someone decided to pull the "Ground Sense" circuit breaker. This fools the aircraft into thinking it is in the air.

BIG mistake! As soon as they do that, the computers released all the brakes. (Safety feature so that folks don't land with the brakes on.)

No time to stop.....The rest is as you see it below.

No one is talking, so who knows if there were survivors.

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D-AIHC · 02-13-2008, 03:35 PM

Sorry, perhaps it's just me but I don't see any pics. Anyway, this has been discussed at least twice:

http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...-accident.html

http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...ome-bondo.html

Prestwick Pioneer · 02-13-2008, 04:52 PM

Yawn, boring. What is the meaning of this thread when its old news and why the sarcasm?

MarinerOne · 02-13-2008, 06:31 PM

BTW, TWA 800 crashed into the Atlantic almost 12 years ago. Saw that on the History Channel last night ... or was it Discovery? Anyways, just thought I would bring it up in case someone didn't hear about the incident.

So who fired the missile?

Jboulin94 · 02-13-2008, 08:55 PM

Ok, didn't this happen like 3 months ago??

corby78 · 02-13-2008, 09:16 PM

He does start out by saying "in case you missed it"

iberia727 · 02-14-2008, 12:10 PM

I don't see the pictures...

D-AIHC · 02-14-2008, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarinerOne

So who fired the missile?

A more pertaining question should be, "who gave the order to fire the missile?", if indeed it was brought down by one.

Mystère · 02-14-2008, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D-AIHC

A more pertaining question should be, "who gave the order to fire the missile?", if indeed it was brought down by one.

Did "they" fired only one missile ?

Did "they" fired any missile ?

Did it really crashed ?

Are airplanes really flying ?

...

Jboulin94 · 02-14-2008, 03:10 PM

Haha, theres a whole special on TWA flt 800 on NatGeo's Seconds from Disaster!

dc-8-556 · 02-14-2008, 08:30 PM

A little bit of slack could be cut for the thread starter. Yes it is 'old' news now, but not for all. No wonder why I only read here most of the time. Sheesh....

gospodin · 02-14-2008, 09:53 PM

Conspiracy nuts want you to believe the US Navy shot that plane down, then covered it up. The picture showing the so-called "smoking gun" evidence could have been from impacting the water, which would bow-up the deck. An explosion would have done more damage than that, anyway. From all of the pics displayed by the NTSB, none of them showed any trace of an outside source of explosion, or traces of explosive residue that is always present from a bomb. The damn thing blew up because of faulty wiring in one of the tanks.

CcrlR737pilot · 02-15-2008, 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gospodin

The damn thing blew up because of faulty wiring in one of the tanks.

That is what I am sticking with. This is just like the Egyptair 990 crash too. Lots of conspircies but we need just the facts and the NTSB knows this.

There is always someone who wants to bring up some conspiracy with certain accidents.

02-13-2008, 02:59 PM	#1
Steven33458 Junior Collector Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 23	A340 Crash in Toulouse, France In case you missed it: good photos of what NOT to do while working in the cockpit of a modern air craft -- a clear case of "ESO" (engineering speak for Equipment Smarter than Operator). This wreck is a brand new A340-600, never flown.Thank the French and their Arab friends for this bit of comedy. Nine employees of the airline in the aircraft, no employees from Airbus were present. They went out to the run-up area. Took all four engines to takeoff power with a virtually empty aircraft. No chocks, not that it would have mattered. Brakes will not hold it back anyway. Turns out the takeoff warning horn was blaring away in the cockpit because they had all FOUR engines at full power. The aircraft thought they were trying to takeoff but it had not been configured properly (flaps/slats, etc). Someone decided to pull the "Ground Sense" circuit breaker. This fools the aircraft into thinking it is in the air. BIG mistake! As soon as they do that, the computers released all the brakes. (Safety feature so that folks don't land with the brakes on.) No time to stop.....The rest is as you see it below. No one is talking, so who knows if there were survivors. The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. AOL Music takes you there. Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail®-get your "fix". Check it out. __________________ Thanks, Steve stevenschmidt@bellsouth.net

02-13-2008, 03:35 PM	#2
D-AIHC Essen Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 6,192	Sorry, perhaps it's just me but I don't see any pics. Anyway, this has been discussed at least twice: http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...-accident.html http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...ome-bondo.html __________________ Lufthansa - Star Alliance member since 1997

02-13-2008, 04:52 PM	#3
Prestwick Pioneer Prestwick Pioneer Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: BIRMINGHAM ENGLAND Posts: 605	Re: A340 Crash in Toulouse, France Yawn, boring. What is the meaning of this thread when its old news and why the sarcasm? __________________ The Prestwick Pioneer

02-13-2008, 06:31 PM	#4
MarinerOne Insane Collector Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: SAN Age: 39 Posts: 1,181	Re: A340 Crash in Toulouse, France BTW, TWA 800 crashed into the Atlantic almost 12 years ago. Saw that on the History Channel last night ... or was it Discovery? Anyways, just thought I would bring it up in case someone didn't hear about the incident. So who fired the missile? Last edited by MarinerOne; 02-13-2008 at 06:41 PM.

02-13-2008, 08:55 PM	#5
Jboulin94 Wants an Aeroflot model! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,464	Re: A340 Crash in Toulouse, France Ok, didn't this happen like 3 months ago?? __________________

02-13-2008, 09:16 PM	#6
corby78 Buff man Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: north dakota Posts: 242	Re: A340 Crash in Toulouse, France He does start out by saying "in case you missed it"

02-14-2008, 12:10 PM	#7
iberia727 Señor Collector Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Barcelona Age: 39 Posts: 352	Re: A340 Crash in Toulouse, France I don't see the pictures... __________________ ¡QUIERO UN A300 DE IBERIA 1:200 YA!... ¡¡¡1000 GRACIAS AEROCLASSICS!!! My collection: http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...tion-5622.html

02-14-2008, 03:10 PM	#10
Jboulin94 Wants an Aeroflot model! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,464	Re: A340 Crash in Toulouse, France Haha, theres a whole special on TWA flt 800 on NatGeo's Seconds from Disaster! __________________

02-14-2008, 08:30 PM	#11
dc-8-556 Collector Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 117	Re: A340 Crash in Toulouse, France A little bit of slack could be cut for the thread starter. Yes it is 'old' news now, but not for all. No wonder why I only read here most of the time. Sheesh....

02-14-2008, 09:53 PM	#12
gospodin Diecast Blasphemer Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ceti Alpha V Age: 52 Posts: 3,199	Re: A340 Crash in Toulouse, France Conspiracy nuts want you to believe the US Navy shot that plane down, then covered it up. The picture showing the so-called "smoking gun" evidence could have been from impacting the water, which would bow-up the deck. An explosion would have done more damage than that, anyway. From all of the pics displayed by the NTSB, none of them showed any trace of an outside source of explosion, or traces of explosive residue that is always present from a bomb. The damn thing blew up because of faulty wiring in one of the tanks. __________________ Steve The one thing I've learned on this forum is "Don't argue with an idiot". Other people reading may not be able to tell the difference....

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