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Old 05-27-2003, 12:03 PM   #1
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Default Airline hubs

Can someone post where the hubs of these airlines are? If there's more than one, can you list the major ones?

1) all American airlines
eg. Delta, Southwest, Jetblue etc

2) all Chinese airlines
eg. China Southwest, China Eastern, Air China etc

Any help will be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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Old 05-27-2003, 12:34 PM   #2
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Cool Airline Hubs

American-Dallas Fort-Worth,Chicago
Delta-Alanta,Dallas Fort-Worth
Southwest-Phoenix,Las Vegas,Houston-Hobby
America West-Phoenix,Las Vegas
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American: Add SJC (San Jose)
Delta: Add SLC (Salt Lake City)
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American: Delete SJC, not a hub, hasn't been for years.

Alaska: Seattle, Portland, Anchorage

Southwest: Add Los Angeles, Baltimore, Nashville
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jetBlue: New York Kennedy, Long Beach
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Chinese airlines and their hubs:

-Air China: Beijing
-China Eastern: Shanghai
-China Northern: Shenyang
-China Northwest: Xi'an; Lanzhou; Zhuhai; Nanjing
-China Southern: Guangzhou
-China Southwest: Chengdu
-China Xinhua: Beijing; Tianjin
-China Xinjiang: Xinjiang
-China Yunnan: Kunming
-China National Aviation Corp. CNAC: Macau
-Hainan Airlines: Haikou; Sanya; Ningbo City
-Xiamen Airlines: Xiamen
-Shenzhen Airlines: Shenzhen
-Shandong Airlines: Ji'nan
-Shanghai Airlines: Shanghai

I think that's about it. There might be a few more minor ones.
AFAIK they are merging several airlines together and 3 big groups will be left: Air China, China Southern and China Eastern.
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Continental: Houston Intercontinental, Newark, Cleveland (kinda)

Midwest Express: Milwaukee

ATA: Indianapolis, Chicago Midway

American: Add Miami

United: Washington Dulles, Chicago O'Hare, Denver, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle (kinda)

Frontier: Denver

Air Tran: Atlanta

Northwest: Minneapolis, Detroit, Seattle

Delta: Add Cincinnati

US Air: Pittsburgh, Charlotte, Philadelphia, Washington National (kinda)
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American add STL and SJU
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SJU's days as an AA hub are in question- more likely it will be an American Eagle hub for the Caribbean, with mainline jets to the U.S. only.
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Northwest: Minneapolis, Detroit, Seattle
Don't forget Memphis for Northwest as well.
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Here's what I know the US Carriers to be:

AA: STL, ORD, DFW, MIA
FL: ATL
TZ: IND, MDW
HP: LAS, PHX
CO: IAH, EWR, CLE
DL: ATL, CVG, SLC
F9: DEN
B6: JFK, LGB (FOCUS CITY)
YX: MKE
NW: MEM, DTW, MSP, NRT
US: PHL, PIT, CLT
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Don't forget Memphis for Northwest as well.
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Doesn't Southwest sort of have a hub at BWI?
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Here's what I know the US Carriers to be:

AA: STL, ORD, DFW, MIA
FL: ATL
TZ: IND, MDW
HP: LAS, PHX
CO: IAH, EWR, CLE
DL: ATL, CVG, SLC
F9: DEN
B6: JFK, LGB (FOCUS CITY)
YX: MKE
NW: MEM, DTW, MSP, NRT
US: PHL, PIT, CLT
Not to be pill, but how about using some real ICAO (and ATC) identifiers, willya Mr. OAG???

FL??: I assume that to be Air Tran (TRS), callsign Citrus, or if you're not a fan..... Shitrus. FL used to be, back in the real good old days, the identifier for the original Frontier.

TZ??: I assume that one to be American Trans Air (ATA).... TZ used to be, again, back in the real good old days..... Trans America.

HP??: That would be America West (AWE) callsign Cactus.

F9??: I guess that would be Frontier??? (FFT)

B6??: That would be jetBlue (JBU), I assume?

YX??: This must be Midwest Express (MEP), callsign MidEx...

I guess that takes care of some of those OAG hieroglyphics!

p.s. AA = AAL, CO = COA, DL = DAL, NW = NWA, US = USA
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Not to be pill, but how about using some real ICAO (and ATC) identifiers, willya Mr. OAG???

FL??: I assume that to be Air Tran (TRS), callsign Citrus, or if you're not a fan..... Shitrus. FL used to be, back in the real good old days, the identifier for the original Frontier.

TZ??: I assume that one to be American Trans Air (ATA).... TZ used to be, again, back in the real good old days..... Trans America.

HP??: That would be America West (AWE) callsign Cactus.

F9??: I guess that would be Frontier??? (FFT)

B6??: That would be jetBlue (JBU), I assume?

YX??: This must be Midwest Express (MEP), callsign MidEx...

I guess that takes care of some of those OAG hieroglyphics!

p.s. AA = AAL, CO = COA, DL = DAL, NW = NWA, US = USA
Hey Tracon...

Thanks for clarifying that for those that might not speak OAG!
And for those that do understand my OAG codes at the expense of not understanding ICAO/ATC, glad to be available to decode MEP, FFT, AWE, etc.



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Add chicago-midway for southwest hub
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Don't forget

Aloha Airlines - Honolulu
Hawaian Airlines - Honolulu

United Airlines - Aspen - uh, no make that Monopoly not a Hub.

Then we have the others

British Airways - London
Virgin Atlantic - London
SwissAir - Zurich
Lufthansa - Frankfurt
KLM - Amsterdam
Aeroflot - Moscow
Air France - Paris
Air Canada - Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver
Mexicana - Mexico City
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-Chicago O'Hare (home base & home of the WHQ)
-Denver (home of the TK)
-San Francisco (Pacific hub home of MOC 1)
-Washington Dulles (Gateway to Europe)
-Los Angeles
-Miami (mini hub & S. Am gateway)
-Seattle (mini hub)
-Honolulu (777 pilot base)

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i always thought SJC was an AA hub (maybe a mini hub?)...its all AA and WN, with a little bit of United, Delta, America West, Continental, Mexicana and various cargo operators thrown in for good measure.
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Not be be nitpicky, but technically Southwest does not operate a hub-and-spoke system. Cities like BWI, Las Vegas, Phoenix, etc. are cities where the airline has a large presence, but the airline does not bring passengers to a hub city with the intent of transferring them onto another flight.
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i always thought SJC was an AA hub (maybe a mini hub?)...its all AA and WN, with a little bit of United, Delta, America West, Continental, Mexicana and various cargo operators thrown in for good measure.
SJC was a hub for American, at one time, for the Far East. American shut it down as a hub about 7 years ago, as I recall. It went the way of Raleigh/Durham. Another failed hub.
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SJC was a hub for American, at one time, for the Far East. American shut it down as a hub about 7 years ago, as I recall. It went the way of Raleigh/Durham. Another failed hub.
damn, that sucks. thanks for the info!
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