KLM to receive first 777 this week?

airbelgium · 03-03-2003, 11:21 AM

I heard a rumour that KLM will be recieving it's first 777 this week. But they would not put it into passenger operation until October. Anybody know anything about that?

9V-SVC · 03-03-2003, 08:42 PM

They will receive the first 777 2nd half of this year .

UALsprtofSEA2 · 03-04-2003, 12:18 AM

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Originally posted by airbelgium
I heard a rumour that KLM will be recieving it's first 777 this week. But they would not put it into passenger operation until October. Anybody know anything about that?

That would not make any sense to receive a 777 and sit on it until October.
The sooner they start to replace the 743's with the 777's the sooner they save on fuel and the extra crew member.
I can't wait to see the 777 in KLM colors. Except I would of preferred the livery their doing away with over the new one.

Scott

airbelgium · 03-04-2003, 04:47 AM

I agree it wouldn't make much sense. They do have to train crews on the type, so they would have to get it early, but it doesn't take 6 months I guess to train experienced crew on a new type. I know it never took my mom 6 months when she was still working at Sabena

UALsprtofSEA2 · 03-04-2003, 05:08 AM

Talking about this brings up a good question. Can a pilot learn to fly a new aircraft only on a simulator?
Scott, when an airline gets a new aircraft type for the first time what are the procedures when it comes to training pilots?

Scott

airbelgium · 03-04-2003, 06:43 PM

I was just talking to a friend of mine who is an Alitalia pilot. He says they send a couple of their most senior pilots for training to Air France 6 months before introducing the 777. And these guys then trained the remaining pilots. I guess that's how it works at most mayor airlines

03-05-2003, 11:17 PM

When CAL got their first 777s in 1998, they sent pilots up to Boeing for training. Once they were certified, they trained other CAL pilots through classwork, simulators, and evenutally short haul domestic operations on the 777s. First delivery was in September, 1998, but it flew domestically for six weeks so pilots could get more cycles and touches on the aircraft before commencing long-haul services.

Sounds like they did a similar program at Alitalia.

03-03-2003, 11:21 AM	#1
airbelgium Senior Collector Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Lanaken-Belgium Age: 33 Posts: 437	KLM to receive first 777 this week? I heard a rumour that KLM will be recieving it's first 777 this week. But they would not put it into passenger operation until October. Anybody know anything about that? __________________ Ive "Aviation Safety is never something you get to; It's always something you're striving toward"

03-03-2003, 08:42 PM	#2
9V-SVC AirBoeingBus Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Singapore Posts: 4,587	They will receive the first 777 2nd half of this year . __________________ My jetphotos.net photos Plane pictures.net photos Let's welcome Boeing newest product, the Boeing 7E7.

03-04-2003, 04:47 AM	#4
airbelgium Senior Collector Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Lanaken-Belgium Age: 33 Posts: 437	I agree it wouldn't make much sense. They do have to train crews on the type, so they would have to get it early, but it doesn't take 6 months I guess to train experienced crew on a new type. I know it never took my mom 6 months when she was still working at Sabena __________________ Ive "Aviation Safety is never something you get to; It's always something you're striving toward"

03-04-2003, 05:08 AM	#5
UALsprtofSEA2 Master Collector Join Date: May 2000 Location: Chicago Age: 45 Posts: 895	Question for a pilot Talking about this brings up a good question. Can a pilot learn to fly a new aircraft only on a simulator? Scott, when an airline gets a new aircraft type for the first time what are the procedures when it comes to training pilots? Scott __________________ 737-200 United Airlines(bl/gry) Midway(80s) 727-100 Flying Tigers,UPS,Emery,DHL, TWA 727-200 ATA, Delta Shuttle,Carnival,Sunworld(WL's). 747-300 Swissair(80's livery), KLM combi (90's livery). 757-200 UAL(sb), Eastern(reg. tail) 767-200 United(any), Delta(any),TWA(red stripes),Airborne Express, All Nippon,Kuwait,LOT,Varig(any). DC-10's Swissair(all), ATA

03-04-2003, 06:43 PM	#6
airbelgium Senior Collector Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Lanaken-Belgium Age: 33 Posts: 437	I was just talking to a friend of mine who is an Alitalia pilot. He says they send a couple of their most senior pilots for training to Air France 6 months before introducing the 777. And these guys then trained the remaining pilots. I guess that's how it works at most mayor airlines __________________ Ive "Aviation Safety is never something you get to; It's always something you're striving toward"

03-05-2003, 11:17 PM	#7
CAL 757-300 Guest Posts: n/a	When CAL got their first 777s in 1998, they sent pilots up to Boeing for training. Once they were certified, they trained other CAL pilots through classwork, simulators, and evenutally short haul domestic operations on the 777s. First delivery was in September, 1998, but it flew domestically for six weeks so pilots could get more cycles and touches on the aircraft before commencing long-haul services. Sounds like they did a similar program at Alitalia.

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