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Old 01-29-2003, 11:26 AM   #1
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Boeing Selects Leaders for New Commercial Airplane Development
Program

SEATTLE, January 29, 2003 - The Boeing Company [NYSE: BA] today
named four executives to key leadership assignments on its new super-
efficient, mid-sized commercial airplane program, designated for
development as the Boeing 7E7.

Michael B. Bair, 46, is appointed senior vice president of the Boeing
7E7 program. Bair will lead all aspects of the development effort and
report directly to Boeing Commercial Airplanes President and Chief
Executive Officer Alan Mulally. Bair is a 24-year Boeing veteran who
most recently led the company's Commercial Aviation Services
business. He also played a key role in development of the Boeing 777
and has served in a variety of senior marketing and sales positions.

"Mike is one of our most experienced and effective leaders," Mulally
said. "He understands our customers' needs and has a strong
engineering and business background. He's absolutely the right choice
to lead our new airplane program."

The following senior executives will report to Bair:

Walter B. Gillette, 61, will be responsible for full development of
the airplane, including engineering, manufacturing and partner
alignment. Gillette led the company's development work on the
enabling technologies of the Sonic Cruiser, which form the foundation
of the new super-efficient airplane. In his 37 years with the
company, Gillette has worked on every new Boeing commercial jet.

John N. Feren, 47, will lead sales, marketing and in-service support.
Feren brings 25 years of commercial airplane sales, marketing and
program management experience to his new position. He most recently
served as vice president of sales for airlines of the Americas and
leasing companies worldwide.

Craig A. Saddler, 43, will lead finance and business operations. A 22-
year company veteran, Saddler has an extensive background in
financial operations, most recently serving as chief financial
officer of the company's Shared Services Group, president of Boeing
Travel Management Co., and interim president of Boeing Realty Corp.

"We are assembling the strongest leadership team possible to continue
our development work and bring this exciting new product to market,"
Mulally said. "Each of the leaders we've selected has the depth of
experience and skills to work together effectively with our customers
and global technology team to create the next great advance in
commercial aviation."


Additional appointments

Michael J. Cave, 42, will replace Bair as senior vice president of
Commercial Aviation Services, reporting to Mulally. Cave previously
was chief financial officer for Boeing Commercial Airplanes. During
his 20 years with the company, he has held a variety of senior
financial management assignments, including vice president of finance
for the business he will now lead.

"Mike has done an outstanding job as CFO and has a tremendous
understanding of the commercial aviation business," Mulally said. "He
has all the right skills and experience to lead our services business
to long-term, profitable growth through a focus on adding value to
our customers' operations."

Robert J. Pasterick, 47, is promoted to chief financial officer for
Commercial Airplanes, replacing Cave. Pasterick has 24 years of broad-
based Boeing experience and most recently served as Commercial
Airplanes' vice president of finance and controller. He will report
to Mulally with responsibility for overall financial management,
contracts, finance and business strategies, and information systems.

"Rob is a solid leader and expert in his field. He'll make a great
addition to our leadership team," Mulally said.

The Boeing 7E7 is being developed as a 200- to 250-seat airplane that
will fly between 7,000 and 8,000 nautical miles at speeds similar to
today's fastest twin-aisle commercial airplanes -- the 777 and 747.
It will be the most advanced and efficient commercial airplane in its
class and will set new standards for environmental responsibility and
passenger comfort.

The airplane will be based on the enabling technologies developed
with a global industry team during the company's examination of the
Sonic Cruiser concept. In December 2002, Boeing announced that based
on customer input and market analysis, it would focus these new
technologies on a super-efficient, mid-sized airplane. The market
potential for a new airplane of this size is forecasted at up to
3,000 units over the next 20 years. The company expects to formally
offer the new airplane to customers in early 2004, with entry into
service targeted for 2008.

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The design looks very nice . Hopefully the plane is for real this time .
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Old 01-29-2003, 11:59 AM   #4
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Looks just like the 767-400.
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should be wider as it comes with 18.5" wide seats ...

I would immagine that 99% of the real benefit is in the new wing, the onterh 1% in composite use.

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looks okay, these new products look kind of gay some times, ie A-380. But this looks good, normal.
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Hopefully this is only a temporary designation like A3XX was for the A380. With any luck this will be the 787. So are those raked wing tips or winglets on the end? Was hope for something more dramatic looking though, but oh well.
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Old 01-29-2003, 06:36 PM   #8
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I can say that it looks a lot better then the A330. It will be interesting to see the orders on this model. I suspect we will see large orders from American Airlines, Delta Airlines, Continental Airlines, British Airways, United Airlines, JAL, Singapore Airlines, Air France, etc. May even see some A330 orders get dumped at the program progresses.

While Airbus committed themselves to the A380 program, the market for smaller point to point airliners of the 767/A330 class will be much larger. So maybe bigger isn't better.

I am also betting that we will be seeing a 757NG jetliner comming out of Seattle in the near future as well.
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Looks just like the 767-400.
I agree. From that picture it does look alot like the 764.

Sigh.... I wish Boeing had pursued the Sonic Cruiser instead.
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Old 01-29-2003, 06:48 PM   #10
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Seating configuration will be 2-4-2...similar to the A330/340 but a bit wider. Along with the fuel savings will be the speed advantage (faster than Airbus), low noise and most importantly the range...

In 10 years Boeing's product line will be 717-200/300 (AirTran wants a stretched 717), 737-600/700/800/900/900ER, 777-200/300ER/LR and 787.

I hope Boeing gets back on its feet.
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I can say that it looks a lot better then the A330. It will be interesting to see the orders on this model. I suspect we will see large orders from American Airlines, Delta Airlines, Continental Airlines, British Airways, United Airlines, JAL, Singapore Airlines, Air France, etc. May even see some A330 orders get dumped at the program progresses.

While Airbus committed themselves to the A380 program, the market for smaller point to point airliners of the 767/A330 class will be much larger. So maybe bigger isn't better.

I am also betting that we will be seeing a 757NG jetliner comming out of Seattle in the near future as well.
I think the plan is to have the 7E7 replace the 757 & 767. They're both getting long-in-the-tooth. The 737-900/900ER will replace the 757.
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So are those raked wing tips or winglets on the end? Was hope for something more dramatic looking though, but oh well.
Raked wing tips ....

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Boeing had said its new plane would resemble a smaller 777, seating from 200 to 250 passengers. It has have the raked wingtips of the 767-400 and the new longer range 777. It has simplified wing leading edges and trailing edge flaps and new engines. The structure will incorporate widespread use of either composites or new lightweight alloys of aluminum.
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Hopefully this model will help Boeing pass Airbus in the 200-250 seat sales.
Looking at the tail it looks like a 777, but the tips of the wings look like a 767-400.
Hopefully we'll see a better picture taken outside at Everett.


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Based on all the information currently available, the 7E7 sounds like a shortened 777 with new wing. If that's the case it should look something like this.
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Definitely looks like a shortened 777 with 767-400 wing tips.. I prefer the name 787 rather than 7E7.
looks like the plane from the Disney movie Toy story 2
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Well I hope this becomes a great success for Boeing.
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In the following article

Seattle P-I Article Link

you will read that the airplane depicted is not necessarily what the 7E7 will look like. In fact, I think that one of the reasons why they chose this perspective is that it doesn't show much of the cockpit glass or nose contouring. This allows the Boeing engineers more latitude and freedom to be creative at the front end. The rest of the plane may be fairly conventional, but with composite construction, I can almost guarantee that they are going to do something unique with the nose section and cockpit windows to make this plane distinguishable from prior Boeings.

As stated in the article:

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Bair cautioned about reading too much into the image released yesterday.

"The only thing I know is that what we build won't look like that," he said. "It's not that we are trying to be coy. But part of this process that we are going to go through over the next several months is defining just that (the final look)."
I sure hope it's not the final design configuration, because when I first saw it, my first reaction was ... boring!

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Considering many major carriers are on the verge of bankruptcy or declaring bankruptcy (there are currently rumours circulating here in Canada about Air Canada - $12 billion in the hole), who is going to buy all of these new planes.

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The mainland Chinese airlines?
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Considering many major carriers are on the verge of bankruptcy or declaring bankruptcy (there are currently rumours circulating here in Canada about Air Canada - $12 billion in the hole), who is going to buy all of these new planes.
Well, seeing as the first aircraft won't fly until atleast 2008, I can only hope that most (if not all) the airlines will be in better shape by then....
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